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Current Tensions in Xinjiang-China

Allow me; it's called instinct for self preservation. It is the way of the world, how often has India objected to Russian brutality? A quarter of your population is Muslim and yet the government of India is silent? Why? The answer is simple; India does not want to antagonize China.

Ever heard the phrase "Might is right"?
Welcome to the real world gubbi...

I can see your point of argument but this is not about India or about China it self. This is China's internal matter and I respect that but my point was that there have lots of argument muslims standing up for other muslims anywhere in the world and I wanted to know how come there not same concern. I never meant to trash China, Pakistan or any body else just a very simple question that could be answerd.

I dont why people are getting personal and anti-India and anti-China here. :undecided:
 
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Riot happened just before the G-8 meeting, isn't the timing suspicious as it made Chinese delegation to quite G-8 as they were purposing second international currency on that forum Vs $$.
 
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Mods clean up on aisle # 21 :P
 
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I can see your point of argument but this is not about India or about China it self. This is China's internal matter and I respect that but my point was that there have lots of argument muslims standing up for other muslims anywhere in the world and I wanted to know how come there not same concern. I never meant to trash China, Pakistan or any body else just a very simple question that could be answerd.

I dont why people are getting personal and anti-India and anti-China here. :undecided:

You should read what A1Kaid wrote in the thread "Red China's Fear of Islam". For the others it may be a bit premature to comment. If Chinese media reports are believed then the death toll was mostly Han Chinese - unfortunate victims of Uyghur violence. If this is corroborated by independent sources then gubbi’s argument deflates like the soufflé I made for dinner :hitwall: :oops:
 
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This has nothing to do with "Muslim" or "Communist" or "Buddhist". Pakistan has the same problem with BLA terrorists and they are also "Muslim" and Pakistan is over 95% Muslim. So this has nothing to do with religion.

Xinjiang is not a disputed territory. Everyone in the world recognizes Xinjiang as part of China.
 
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This has nothing to do with "Muslim" or "Communist" or "Buddhist". Pakistan has the same problem with BLA terrorists and they are also "Muslim" and Pakistan is over 95% Muslim. So this has nothing to do with religion.

Xinjiang is not a disputed territory. Everyone in the world recognizes Xinjiang as part of China.

Mr. Omar, you have put this statement twice. Xinjiang is not a disputed territory true, besides the people of Xinjiang. The problem with anger with the Han is CCP migration policy of Han into Xinjiang area. Where free pass hakou is given to Hans to germinate the area and to setup shop, While Xinjiang hakou is limited only in there areas. Riots have a deep reasons, one should look at the cause of the anger.
 
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Mr. Omar, you have put this statement twice. Xinjiang is not a disputed territory true, besides the people of Xinjiang. The problem with anger with the Han is CCP migration policy of Han into Xinjiang area. Where free pass hakou is given to Hans to germinate the area and to setup shop, While Xinjiang hakou is limited only in there areas. Riots have a deep reasons, one should look at the cause of the anger.

This is China's internal problem. Xinjiang is an integral part of China, it must obey Chinese law and Chinese citizens can live anywhere in China. Xinjiang shares no dispute with any other country. No country, except China, claims Xinjiang as part of their territory.

And dont bring religion into this, this is not about religion..its about an ethnicity. China has more than 20 million Muslims and they are not all Uyghurs.

This problem China has is with some UYghur rebels not with Muslims.
 
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This is China's internal problem. Xinjiang is an integral part of China, it must obey Chinese law and Chinese citizens can live anywhere in China. Xinjiang shares no dispute with any other country. No country, except China, claims Xinjiang as part of their territory.

And dont bring religion into this, this is not about religion..its about an ethnicity. China has more than 20 million Muslims and they are not all Uyghurs.

This problem China has is with some UYghur rebels not with Muslims.


What are you rambling about, where in my post did I say Xinjiang is disputed terroritory? Infact I agreed with you. Where in my post did I bring up religion?

The problem is the germination of Hans in Xinjiang. Anyways my last post on this thread!!!!
 
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What are you rambling about, where in my post did I say Xinjiang is disputed terroritory? Infact I agreed with you. Where in my post did I bring up religion?

The problem is the germination of Hans in Xinjiang. Anyways my last post on this thread!!!!

The people, Uyghur and Hans, are all Chinese citizens. There shouldn't be a problem with Chinese citizens settling into another part of their country thats not disputed.


Its like telling a Tamil from South India that he cant settle in Mumbai or a New Yorker that he cant settle in California.


I dont see a problem with Hans settling in Xinjiang. If Xinjiang was a disputed territory, recognized by the UN as disputed, then there would be a problem with Hans settling in Xinjiang but that is not the case.
 
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The people, Uyghur and Hans, are all Chinese citizens. There shouldn't be a problem with Chinese citizens settling into another part of their country thats not disputed.


Its like telling a Tamil from South India that he cant settle in Mumbai or a New Yorker that he cant settle in California.


I dont see a problem with Hans settling in Xinjiang. If Xinjiang was a disputed territory, recognized by the UN as disputed, then there would be a problem with Hans settling in Xinjiang but that is not the case.

I lied, this is going to be my last post. There is a such thing as equal treatment, ask any Xinjiang if he can freely travel and settle at Bejing or any other major cities in China, besides Xinjiang.

Regards.
 
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China has ordered mosques in its restive western city of Urumqi not to open for Friday prayers.

The order comes after several days of ethnic violence between Uighur Muslims and Han Chinese. At least 156 people have been killed so far.

Thousands of troops remain in Urumqi, the capital of Xinjiang province, to try to maintain order.

The Chinese authorities have vowed to administer "severe punishment" to those involved in the riots.

An unnamed government official told the Associated Press news agency that people in Xinjiang should "stay at home and pray", rather than gathering in mosques.

The official said the order had been given on public safety ground.

The violence began on Sunday when Uighurs rallied to protest against a deadly brawl between Uighurs and Han several weeks ago in a toy factory in southern Guangdong province.

Security has been high in the city since the recent unrest

Officials say 156 people - mostly Han - died in Sunday's violence.

Uighur groups say many more have died, claiming 90% of the dead were Uighurs.

More than 1,400 people are thought to have been detained.

On Thursday, China said it had "a great deal of evidence" that some of those involved in the violence had "training from foreign terrorist groups including Al-Qaeda".

Foreign ministry official Qin Gang did not say what the evidence was, but said the groups were "inextricably linked with three vicious forces from abroad".

Tensions have been growing in Xinjiang for many years, as Han migrants have poured into the region, where the Uighur minority is concentrated.

Many Uighurs feel economic growth has bypassed them and complain of discrimination and diminished opportunities.

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | China bans Urumqi mosque prayers
 
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I think Pakistanis have taken a realistic stand that nation states come first, its interests come first and ummah last. India is an exception, but wasn't long befoe Pakistanis were collecting money to fight in Chechnya. Its nice to see people have seen the light finally.

Hopefully we won't be hearing of Gujrat riots anymore as Gujrat is an integral part of India. All benefit.
 
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I think Pakistanis have taken a realistic stand that nation states come first, its interests come first and ummah last. India is an exception, but wasn't long befoe Pakistanis were collecting money to fight in Chechnya. Its nice to see people have seen the light finally.

Hopefully we won't be hearing of Gujrat riots anymore as Gujrat is an integral part of India. All benefit.

Nation come 1st very selectively.

Some people are more equal than others.
 
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