First of all American, don't you dare lecture me on history. If anyone needs a good lecture on history it's your people.
Show your prejudice!
Truth is ethnic independent. If you think otherwise, only appropriate description is “ myopic” and “racist”.
Let’s go for rational discussion, if you are sincere.
BTW, I assure you many Americans are ignorant, because they don't have to care. Hopefully we don't fall into that category.
Yeah just like the British ratifying the the Balfour Declaration in 1917, which gave away Palestine to the Zionist. Now what right does Britain have to give the Jews/Zionist someone else s homeland? None whatsoever. It doesn't make it morally right nor is it justified in fact it is criminal.
Now let me teach you something here American, the province you and the Chinese refer to as "Xinjiang" (in Chinese
新界) means in English "
New Territory"*. It is New territory or new frontier! Face it it was Chinese imperialism in historic Turkic lands that resulted in the occupation of East Turkistan. A source is available below.
Xinjiang: China's Muslim borderland - Google Books
You are free to hold your opinions.
The fact (not opinion) is,
the Han Chinese had control over Xinjiang, where multiple ethnics thrived there except Turkic people, as early as West Han Dynasty around 60 BC, with its headquarters at Wulei (now in North Tarim Basin). Later, an extension of Great Wall, a typical symbol of ancient Chinese sphere of control,
was built 300 miles into present Gansu-Xinjiang border.
The Uighurs seemed to appear (only) around 3 DC as Han Dynasty declines.
The resurrection of Tang Dynasty witnessed re-control of Xinjiang, with two military commanderies in Anxi (640) and Beiting (702) in the north and south of the Tian Shan. The decrease of Tang dynasty helped Arabic influence in these areas. Nonetheless,
Mongolian still remained as the language at that time.
Yuan had also incorporated the region into China, but Qing Dynasty (1644-1911) asserted its firm control over it.
BTW, Xinjiang is not 新界, which means “new border”, but 新疆.
The new territory was new in ancient times, but is not new anymore now. There are thousands of weird names originated 5-6 thousand years ago in China, they don’t have any nowadays’ meaning but only serve as token.
If you use a location name with an origination that even you don’t know, how can you use that to justify your political slogan? Wouldn’t you feel this is naïve and funny?
And none of what you have said discounts my previous points.
"Uyghurs are not Chinese or share Chinese heritage, they are a Turkic people who belong to the Turan not to the Chinese motherland. Their language is not Chinese they do not speak Mandarin or Cantonese they speak Turkic. Their culture is also different from yours. Let me reiterate, they are not your people and East Turkistan is not nor has ever been your land!"-A1Kaid
Remind you that, China is a multi-ethnic country with Han the majority.
There are Russians and Kazaks, etc. They look different and speak differently from Han, and share no heritage of the Chinese. Should each and every of those ethnics declare independence form China?
National self-determination is a controversial issue. While people are entitled with the rights to shake off the shackles of colonists and imperialism, it is also believed that ‘Yet if every ethnic, religious or linguistic group claimed statehood, there would be no limit to fragmentation, and peace, security and well-being for all would become ever more difficult to achieve.’ (UN Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali stated in his otherwise upbeat 1992 report <An Agenda for Peace>).
You cannot disapprove not one point I made, because I stand on the facts.
It's funny how you Americans call for the freedom of Taiwan and Tibet and support Dalai Lama's freedom movement, you even allowed him in the White House (Bush tenure) with a decked out event. Yet, when it comes to East Turkistan you become hypocrites.
Quite frankly, I'm not interested in US opinion nor do I care for US foreign desires.
Peevishness doesn’t make a claim any more appealing.
You don’t have to heed US government, and I certainly don't. I only represent myself, as an individual, not US government.
I oppose Taiwan independence. I oppose Tibet independence. Because for those particular cases, “there would be no limit to fragmentation, and peace, security and well-being for all would become ever more difficult to achieve”.
I already pointed that out, the Uyghur Turks have been living in East Turkistan for thousands of years, they cultivated the land, the raised the cities, gardens, they named the towns, and their ancestry is in Central Asia, the Turkic homeland. What you fail to understand is, 1933 is a significant date in the modern time line of this "Grand Chessboard" you talk about, but your an American what do I expect. Always wanting to mingle and have your say in Asian/Eastern affairs.
See here, "It doesn't matter", this is a very typical attitude you types have, what doesn't matter is your opinion. Actually the history does matter. I understand some feel China will never let go of "Xinjiang" or it's occupied "New Territory" but their are things that can be done that will not be discussed.
As history and facts demonstrates,
Uyghurs are not the first people living in that land. Other ethnics and Han Chinese controlled the land 60 BC and earlier, whereas Turkic speakers started to have influence only when Tang declined.
By your logic, Turkic speakers should also evacuate the land and yield to Han or to those pre Han ethnics. How ridiculous!
Human rights issue has to be addressed in China in general, and in Xinjiang, Tibet and anywhere else in particular. Secession is not a solution. Instead, a worsened human rights record can be foreseen.
1933 event is nothing but a Soviet Union plot plus other factors. Many leaders of the short-lived event are educated in Soviets. Just spend some time reading through Russian, Chinese, British, American documents. Only people under-educated in this aspect would laughably use it as their banner.
Everything in the universe moves according to certain laws. In international relationship, great powers out-maneuver others on the chessboard. We can call it unjust, we can call it barbarous, but that’s the way current people behave. If smaller countries are wise, they can unite to form a stronger power. That again is following the laws.
Stuff works according to laws, it doesn’t matter how petulantly somebody tries in defiance of the laws that govern the movement of the Universe. Wise man is wise because he studies the laws, discovers new laws, understands the laws and uses laws better than any other people, not in defiance
Just let you know that, in the particular riots, the Uyghurs kill not just Han.
They also kill muslim Hui.