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Current Tensions in Xinjiang-China

I don't want to see your article and this is not from western media.This is from travel experience. why you want to know if this is from Blog? You want to ban the site in china?
And I don't want you also to be the official spokesman of china please . Heard enough lectures.
Suggest you to travel to XinJiang. Go see it yourself in Kashgar , khotan etc whats going on . You will see it in the walls , in front of mosques , speaking to Uighurs etc.

Always hear and see both sides. Not only han chinese sides. Whats what we see always.

you should say that you r an indian Muslim to make it work,i have Xinjiang friends too,and we all know what problem China face.

you r more like a spokesman of india

This is from travel experience. ------------- yes .who will write travel experience,in this way, where you travle,internet?
 
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you should say that you r an indian Muslim to make it work,i have Xinjiang friends too,and we all know what problem China face.

you r more like a spokesman of india

Why are you personally abusing me. Did I say anything in this discussion about India ? You are insane and without words.

Truth is that you always deny the reality and how you treat people. Good luck .
 
Why are you personally abusing me. Did I say anything in this discussion about India ? You are insane and without words.

Truth is that you always deny the reality and how you treat people. Good luck .

this is what you just said,when i said in your way it is a rumor
how funny ,huh?


I don't want to see your article and this is not from western media.This is from travel experience. why you want to know if this is from Blog? You want to ban the site in china?
And I don't want you also to be the official spokesman of china please . Heard enough lectures.
Suggest you to travel to XinJiang. Go see it yourself in Kashgar , khotan etc whats going on . You will see it in the walls , in front of mosques , speaking to Uighurs etc.

Always hear and see both sides. Not only han chinese sides. Whats what we see always.
 
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Okay guys, lets keep it cool and make sure this doesn't turn into another one of those flaming threads.

To the Indian members a bit of advice: this must be an emotional time for our Chinese friends much like the Mumbai attacks were for you guys. I suggest you keep the confrontation and baiting on the down-low because once this thing boils over, we will find out who or what was behind this. Until then we can talk about the issues in the region with mutual respect. A little sensitivity on behalf of you guys will go a long way.

To our Chinese friends I would say pretty much the same thing. Keep it cool and be factual. Also scshqgcm I can’t read anything on the site which you have linked, but I’ll take your word for it. Just be civil and responsible and don't be baited.

Thanks!
 
Okay guys, lets keep it cool and make sure this doesn't turn into another one of those flaming threads.

To the Indian members a bit of advice: this must be an emotional time for our Chinese friends much like the Mumbai attacks were for you guys. I suggest you keep the confrontation and baiting on the down-low because once this thing boils over, we will find out who or what was behind this. Until then we can talk about the issues in the region with mutual respect. A little sensitivity on behalf of you guys will go a long way.

To our Chinese friends I would say pretty much the same thing. Keep it cool and be factual. Also scshqgcm I can’t read anything on the site which you have linked, but I’ll take your word for it. Just be civil and responsible and don't be baited.

Thanks!


all of us r trying our best to cool down,and i hope my fellows not to revenge
if you can not read it ,ok,see the pics or vedio r ok. ------------i just show the difference between protest and riot
i dont want some indians to make this riot to be an anti-china topic,even those whom had been killed r not Muslims
and the terrorists r false muslims,i believe that a true muslim would not kill innocent people----------so ?
so dont make this sh@t with religion,my indian enemy.
my Pakistani friends know how you act
:pakistan::china:
 
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make china stronger ,these kind of bias reports from westen media will go away,stop wasting our time on arguing with indian,there is not end.like our premier wen said"多难兴邦".
 
FREE EAST TURKISTAN!

Pakistanis love our Uighur brothers/sisters! Your persecution will not go unnoticed! Pakistan Zindabad! East Turkistan Zindabad!

What a freaking BS!

East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) was declared a terrorist organisation by United Nations in 2002.

Terrorism Zindabad! :rofl: :flame:
 
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Where is our Chinese friend.. O let me guess the great fire wall of China blocked him...

I believe most of them are enjoying vacation or otherwise making big bucks.

Terrorist activities don't help and are doomed to be punished.
 

Yes.. I work in Beijing.
Times are changing, but the situation has remained same. Last year before the olympics the Chinese government promised more press freedom. For a while it was true. But once the olympics were over, things went back to normal and in some cases even became worse. My cable operator stopped airing CNN, HBO and other international channels. The only english channel I now get is CCTV9 which is just a government mouthpiece and the programs are too boring and predictable. No foreigner watches it.
A Australian TV reporter friend of mine had to wait 1 month to get permission to cover Sichuan earthquake, by which time he dropped the idea of doing it. He went back in frustration after 1 year of trying to cover the news here.
 
Dear Chinese Members and Chinese nation

I understand you love your country and wish to protect your country and fight for it's ambitions and unity. Though I must say to my great allies and genuine friends that I have a legitimate concern and disagreement with you on the issue of E. Turkistan or the Chinese name given to it "Xinjiang".

I want to enlighten the fellow Chinese members on some history that I doubt their government would ever share with them.


In 1933 c.e. The Turkic Uyghurs with a political figure named Sabit Damolla declared independence and founded the Islamic Republic of East Turkistan. East Turkistan had formed an army in place, national institutions, and a national assembly (a legislative branch) after declaring independence.

In 1944 East Turkistan reaffirmed and re-declared it's independence as it struggled to get international recognition by members state who were hostile to any independent Muslim-Turkic states such as China, Russia, Iran, and Britain.


Two years later in 1946, the Chinese PLA invaded East Turkistan. The Chinese PLA where never there before or had any presence in East Turkistan. Chinese PLA eventually defeated the Turkic forces their, and captured and occupied the land from. The occupation today continues.


What is more disturbing is the Chinese have deliberately conducted Nuclear test in East Turkistan near civilian populations, causing the locals to have birth defects, genetic defects, diseases, radiation, and other dreadful pains.


What the Chinese must understand is the Uyghurs are not your people nor is East Turkistan your land it has never belonged to you, only on your state sponsored Communist maps (in regards to China) is East Turkistan truly considered an integral part of China.

Uyghurs are not Chinese or share Chinese heritage, they are a Turkic people who belong to the Turan not to the Chinese motherland. Their language is not Chinese they do not speak Mandarin or Cantonese they speak Turkic. Their culture is also different from yours. Let me reiterate, they are not your people and East Turkistan is not nor has ever been your land!

Today no Uyghur wishes to be apart of China, as a true Uyghur knows his ties and loyalties are with his Turkic and Muslim family. They are restricted to practice Islam freely, attend a Mosque freely, or to do their religious activities without Chinese government approval.


One final thing I would like to mention, is the Chinese are our dear strategic ally and friends, and as friends I strongly and respectfully disagree with you on "Xinjiang", East Turkistan being apart of China. It would be most beneficial to regional peace and security and mutually beneficial to our relationship that China set free East Turkistan.

Just remind you my friend that the so called independence of ET was under support of Soviet Russia. After intense negotiation later, Soviet allowed CPC to take over XinJiang.

This happened around the same time that Japanese invaded and weakened China.

This story is nothing but a small scenario on a Grand Chessboard of international relationship.

Remind you again, Xinjiang's history is far rich and longer than mere 1933! :lol:

It doesn't matter what happen yesterday, today and tomorrow, China will never let go Xinjiang with any cost.
 
East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) was declared a terrorist organisation by United Nations in 2002.

Do you know why it was declared a Terrorist Organization by United Nations in 2002. ?
 
Yes.. I work in Beijing.
Times are changing, but the situation has remained same. Last year before the olympics the Chinese government promised more press freedom. For a while it was true. But once the olympics were over, things went back to normal and in some cases even became worse. My cable operator stopped airing CNN, HBO and other international channels. The only english channel I now get is CCTV9 which is just a government mouthpiece and the programs are too boring and predictable. No foreigner watches it.
A Australian TV reporter friend of mine had to wait 1 month to get permission to cover Sichuan earthquake, by which time he dropped the idea of doing it. He went back in frustration after 1 year of trying to cover the news here.

we are speaking chinese,we don't need so many english channel,you like watching CNN ,watch on the internet,or go back to mumbai,we are not interest in hearing bias report.is CCTV-9 more boring than "i love you" bollywood?your boss should've checked out the cost for a all-weather translator in Beijing before he assigned you to china
 
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Let me ask my set of it.

1. Was it necessary for the police to use brutal force on a demonstration that was not so violent in its early stages? In other words, does the riot police actually know how to pacify a mob without inciting a violence?

This is why
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2. How would a 'terrorist' sitting in US influence a mob so much that the entire town goes on a burning spree? If at all the mastermind sits in US, how did he get success of such a magnitude?

Then tell us how Mumbai is attacked?

How would a 'terrorist' sitting outside of India influence a mob so much that the entire town goes on a burning spree? If at all the mastermind sits outside of India, how did he get success of such a magnitude?

3. why is China experiencing a wave of unrest in 2009? Does it have something to do with communism & its imperialistic policies? Have a look at this article -
China seen facing wave of unrest in 2009 | U.S. | Reuters



This warning was given in early January. And you are watching with your own eyes what is going on.

I believe all these should be within expectation. Remind you that India is the most terrorism stricken country. While China may experience a wave in 2009, India experiences it year-round and decade-round. Have you ever asked yourself why?

Global Terrorism Indicator (most recent) by country
1 India
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25 China

Global Terrorism Indicator statistics - countries compared - NationMaster

Congratulations on your being number 1, but your glee is more than just pathetic.
 
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