Current Tensions in Xinjiang-China

[Hasham24]

All Pakistani people strongly condemn the Xinjiang riots.
China should strongly respond to this indian-american conspiracy!

 

[Speeder]

As I said earlier, Brits haven't made too much a fuss about it in reporting compared to some big events of the last year.

BBC: (about 2 min. time) said that it was "riot" and "Chinese ethnic tensions in XinJian"

ITV: about the same time and exact wordings

Channel 4: 4 min. time with a report from Lindsay Hilsum - one of the most anti-China reporters I have ever seen. I have never heard one single report from her since the Tibet riots, SiChuan earthquake, Olympics 2008 till now, NOTHING, where one single positive word coming out of her mouth regarding China ! The twat also referred to "ethnic tensions", but used "demostrators" instead of "riots" !

Sky: about 3 min. The same wordings

So usually Brits would blame on China's crackdown from A to Z. This time the tone has slightly changed a bit, although all of them said "crackdown" in the first day, they all changed the tone afterwards, becoming more or less "neutral" in general wordings, but still keep playing mouse and cat game by always using the scenes / photos of how Uyguhrs got beated up by Han, not single reverse story.

 

[scshqgcm]

Hmm... So Palastine is Israel's internal issue
Godhra is India's internal issue
Balochistan in Pakistan's internal issue

And unlike some members claim here .... that Pakistan will speak up for Muslims everywhere in the world.......That is not true.

Okay, good to know that.

a true Muslim would not kill innocent people .but in Xinjiang they killed women too,even Taliban dont kill women and we all know what Taliban is ,right?
tell me ,my indian friends,in your eyes what is a Muslim should do?

maybe you think that Muslims r so --------to be fooled by you?
and i am sure that Pakistani friends would speak up for all equality of all Muslims,not for terrorists

 

[scshqgcm]

some of the top leaders in Xinjiang
some of them r Uighur,Kazakh,Hui,Han

the man with a pen under the flags of Pakistan and China is Uighur,the woman who sit on left is a Hui muslim,and the man sit on right is the mayor of Urumchi
and he is a Uighur too

the four men walk together r the top four leaders of Xinjiang,one of them is Han chinese,the others r Uighur or Kazakh chinese-------sure ,they r the target of terrorista,and the terrorists killed some of Muslim leader too,you can check it
Xinjiang is not the land of Uighur racist,more than 20 other groups live on this land for a long time, include Uighur Mongol ,Hui,Han,Kazak, Uzbek, Tajik, Tatar, Kirgiz---------so?

 

[Omar1984]

This is China's internal matter. We have a similar problem with BLA terrorists who are also separatists and they are also so called "Muslim" by name.

Everyone in the world recognizes Xinjiang as part of China. There is no dispute here.

 

[HAIDER]

Hope peace prevail, because its strange, why this gateway to middle east is catching fire all of sudden. Urumchi is growing trade center in near future, this dry port will be gateway to middle east , Africa and part of Europe. This is trade market for all Pakistanis and Chinese.
In this all crisis, after China, Pakistan will be the one who hurt most.

 

[anathema]

a true Muslim would not kill innocent people .but in Xinjiang they killed women too,even Taliban dont kill women and we all know what Taliban is ,right?

It is purely china's internal matter and china is more than capable of solving it. Stuff just happens.

However your above sentence caught my eye.

I really wish there are more true muslims out there and i believe there are...However the problem is moderates never come out in support and the fanatics supress them ..Moderates just talk and nothing else....

Taliban doesnt kill women ....Sir ....Taliban is capable of killing anyone .....monsters they are...stoning , beheading , shooting ....anything....there's a tone of material which shows that....Point is ...Fanatics in the name of any religion is capable of anything .........women children doesnt matter

 

[dabong1]

As I said earlier, Brits haven't made too much a fuss about it in reporting compared to some big events of the last year.

BBC: (about 2 min. time) said that it was "riot" and "Chinese ethnic tensions in XinJian"

ITV: about the same time and exact wordings

Channel 4: 4 min. time with a report from Lindsay Hilsum - one of the most anti-China reporters I have ever seen. I have never heard one single report from her since the Tibet riots, SiChuan earthquake, Olympics 2008 till now, NOTHING, where one single positive word coming out of her mouth regarding China ! The twat also referred to "ethnic tensions", but used "demostrators" instead of "riots" !

Sky: about 3 min. The same wordings

So usually Brits would blame on China's crackdown from A to Z. This time the tone has slightly changed a bit, although all of them said "crackdown" in the first day, they all changed the tone afterwards, becoming more or less "neutral" in general wordings, but still keep playing mouse and cat game by always using the scenes / photos of how Uyguhrs got beated up by Han, not single reverse story.

Maybe it has more to do with chinese being more media savvy this time and being able to project there version of events better then they have done before........let there be a free media but mould there opinions to state policy.

 

[freeman]

yep just like mainstream western media.

To the Chinese people out there
Nobody believes state run media over here. Whether thats Chinese, Iranian or whoever. Doesnt help either when the internet and international phone calls are turned off. It makes people suspicious.

 

[DistortedIndia]

This opinion below is taken from a conversation that I overheard in a major hotel VIP lounge room between some Canadians and Japanese ( judging on their luggage and accents ). -- Why Indians in general are so happy to see any turmoil that occurs in Pakistan and PRC ( People's Republic of China).
Especially, if the Turmoil is between any Muslim group and China, the Indians could not help themselves by Grinning Ear to Ear on the misfortunes of Pakistan and PRC. Example: The Kadeer Rebiya and her Uighur terrorists in exterminating the Han and Hui in Xinjiang, PRC.

The Indians have been accustomed to being breed as the whitey slaves and tools. The whitey here are USA and the Indian's master Brits.

The Indians are naturally the jealous and shallow minded breed.

The Indians can not stand for being inferior to China for so many years ( at minimum the last 30+ years ) with no light at the end of the inferior tunnel.

While China Peaceful Rising is grown out of the simple concept of being the "Best that One Can Be".

The Indians Goal on the other hand is much shallower. The Indians just want to be the Numero Uno in Asia.
To this day, 47 years later, the shallow minded Indians are still licking their wounds with salts on their crushing defeat on the 1962 Border War.

The Indians have long conceded that the whitey ( mainly Americans and Brits ) are forever their superiors.

The Indians are too happy to believe and swallow whatever neo-conservatives whitey propaganda from the so-called free media of the whitey ( BBC, CNN, AFP, etc, ... ... )

 

[Gabbar]

^^ Why dont you show your true identity? This is your second post and you are already in to racism and low quality posts. Make some arguments with some logical concept. You wont last long with flambating and derailing the threads. Get a life.

 

[quriosity]

As I said earlier, Brits haven't made too much a fuss about it in reporting compared to some big events of the last year.

BBC: (about 2 min. time) said that it was "riot" and "Chinese ethnic tensions in XinJian"

ITV: about the same time and exact wordings

Channel 4: 4 min. time with a report from Lindsay Hilsum - one of the most anti-China reporters I have ever seen. I have never heard one single report from her since the Tibet riots, SiChuan earthquake, Olympics 2008 till now, NOTHING, where one single positive word coming out of her mouth regarding China ! The twat also referred to "ethnic tensions", but used "demostrators" instead of "riots" !

Sky: about 3 min. The same wordings

So usually Brits would blame on China's crackdown from A to Z. This time the tone has slightly changed a bit, although all of them said "crackdown" in the first day, they all changed the tone afterwards, becoming more or less "neutral" in general wordings, but still keep playing mouse and cat game by always using the scenes / photos of how Uyguhrs got beated up by Han, not single reverse story.

it wasnt riot.... culprits did to spread terror... its terrorist attack or war on china.... china authority already found links with al-Qaida... terrorism is not always that you carry AK-47... you can do with a baseball stick... so Chinese state media is lying perhaps for a good reason... further investigation reveals...

 

[gpit]

LOL Gpit is such a prick. Uguyrs have been around since what 3rd cent AD?

That's not local enough for you?

Haha. Maybe Chinese should leave China because they migrated from Africa.

Notice how no Pakistani is attempting to correct Gpit's myopic views about what constitutes "local" and "foreign".

Here's a hint - those people who are living CURRENTLY are locals.

Human Rights are not dictated by historical migrations and wars. You can't declare yourself locals simply because your ancestors allegedly lived there.

Nom Nom Nom!!!!

Normally those types of witless craps deserve no reply from me. I nonetheless hope to utilize this opportunity to summarize what I meant earlier:

If Han is not considered as local in Xinjiang, then Uighur is not, either.

If Uighur is considered as local in Xinjiang, then Han is local, too, and perhaps even more local.

Low IQ people may still ask why?

This is because Han entered Xinjiang several centuries earlier than Uighur was formed and keeps staying there, albeit with smaller population compared with Uighur.

Remind you all that Xinjiang has been called home not only by Uighur or Han, but also by all 47 of 56 Chinese ethnics. They are all local to Xinjiang.

Ethnic Percent in Xinjiang (2004)
Uighur 45. 73%
Han 39. 75%
Kazakh 7.04%
Hui 4.46%
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[AkhandBharat]

BEIJING (AFP)--China on Thursday rejected a call by Turkey to discuss deadly unrest in the Xinjiang region at the United Nations Security Council, saying the incident was an internal affair.

"The Chinese government has taken decisive measures according to law," foreign ministry spokesman Qin Gang said.

"This is completely China's internal affair, there is no reason to seek a Security Council discussion."

His comments came after Turkey called on China to secure a quick end to what it called an "atrocity" in the northwest Xinjiang region, where riots that erupted Sunday in the region's capital Urumqi led to days of violence.

The unrest has seen 156 dead, more than 1,000 injured and 1,434 arrested so far, Chinese authorities have said.

In televised remarks Wednesday, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said the events amounted to an "atrocity."

"We expect... the immediate implementation of the necessary measures in line with universal human rights," he said.

He added that Turkey, a non-permanent member of the U.N. Security Council, would ask the U.N. body to discuss ways of ending the violence.

Xinjiang's eight million Uighurs make up nearly half the population of the region, a vast area of deserts and mountains rich in natural resources that borders ex-Soviet Central Asia.

Many Uighurs have sought refuge in Turkey, where some Islamist and nationalist groups lend support to demands for an independent Uighur homeland in the region.

But Turkey's official policy has been to support China's territorial integrity and oppose any separatist movements.

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[gubbi]

Muslim states 'silent' on Uighurs

Kadeer said that silence from Muslim countries contrasted with support from the West [AFP]

A leading Uighur rights activist has criticised Muslim-majority countries for not speaking out against decades of alleged repression and persecution from the Chinese government.

Speaking in Washington on Monday, Rebiya Kadeer, a businesswoman who was jailed for years in China before being released into exile in the US, hit out at what she said was decades of "brutal suppression" of Muslims in China's western Xinjiang region.

Speaking after a day of unrest in Xinjiang left at least 150 people dead, Kadeer pointed to the lack of response from Muslim countries to the violence and the situation faced by the Uighurs.

"Muslim countries such as Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria and a number of other Muslim countries as well as the central Asian states like Kazakhstan Kurdistan and Uzbekistan - they all deported Uighurs who had fled Chinese persecution for peacefully opposing Chinese rule, for writing something, for speaking something," she said.

She said the lack of action from Muslim countries contrasted with support given by other governments.

"Our only friend is in the West - Western democracies are supporting us and we are very grateful," Kadeeer, who heads the World Uighur Congress, told reporters.

"We certainly hope that more Muslim countries will raise our situation."

'Propaganda'

"So far the Islamic world is silent about the Uighurs' suffering because the Chinese authorities have been very successful in its propaganda to the Muslim world"
Rebiya Kadeer

Kadeer attributed the lack of action from Muslim countries to what she said was the success of Chinese "propaganda" to the Muslim world.

"So far the Islamic world is silent about the Uighurs' suffering because the Chinese authorities have been very successful in its propaganda to the Muslim world."

That propaganda, she said, sent a message to the Muslim world "that the Uighurs are extremely pro-west Muslims - that they are modern Muslims, not genuine Muslims."

At the same time, she said, to Western countries the Chinese government "labelled Uighur leaders as Muslims terrorists with links to al-Qaeda - so the propaganda has been pretty effective on both sides."

Thelim Kine, an Asia researcher from New York-based Human Rights Watch, told Al Jazeera that Beijing's accusations of Uighur links to "terrorist" groups had intensified since the 9/11 attacks in the US.

"Because they are Muslim they have been accused of carrying out what the government calls 'terrorist activities', as well as being linked to various organisations like al-Qaeda," he said.

'Mastermind'

China's government has blamed Uighur exiles for stoking the recent unrest, singling out Kadeer for "masterminding" the riots – claims she rejected as "completely false".

While she admitted that some Uighurs had been carried out attacks during Sunday's unrest, she said the violence was a symptom of Uighur frustration and resentment at China's repressive policies.

Her group, she said, has repeatedly called for only peaceful protests and urged all sides to exercise restraint.

As protests continue in Xinjiang and police arrest hundreds after the riots, Kadeer called for an international investigation into the unrest.

"We hope that the United Nations, the United States and the European Union will send teams to investigate what really took place in Xinjiang," she said.

"We hope the White House will issue a stronger statement urging the Chinese government to show restraint, and also to tell the truth of the nature of the events and what happened, and to tell the Chinese government to redress Uighur grievances."

Apparently, according to many a members' posts here, its a sacrilege/criminal act if a few Indian Muslims are kind of discriminated against (it is of course bad), but its alright if chinese muslims are killed by their comrades. How do I not see any outrage by members here? We recently had a whole thread where one poster argued that two students who got beat up in an Indian college were definitely Muslim and condemned the Indians as bigots, but no one condemns China for their heavy handed response in this case.