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Coward enemy has launched hybrid war against Pakistan: COAS

Till God answers our prayers.

What are we asking from HIM? What is there that is missing, that HE already hasn't blessed us with?

we cannot transform into someone we are not. this is how we have lived for 5000 years and it takes time and disaster to change the course of nations.

We are not being ourselves. Transformation is not required, people who left everything for this countrt, got slaughtered on their way, were content with very little ........ they had already transformed, reached their peak ... but what happened to us then?

jab tak soraj sawa nazay pe nahi ajata

Phir to Ehtisab hay kara ehtisab .........
 
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What are we asking from HIM? What is there that is missing, that HE already hasn't blessed us with?
Wisdom to realize our potential to keep it short.

We are not being ourselves. Transformation is not required, people who left everything for this countrt, got slaughtered on their way, were content with very little ........ they had already transformed, reached their peak ... but what happened to us then?
we are promised other fruits from the bounty of gods kingdom

Phir to Ehtisab hay kara ehtisab .........

esa wesa... misaali bhai misaali
 
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and stupid COAS can't do anything about it. This is the response of a simpleton. This isn't the middle ages where cowardice and bravery were the deciding factor. Proper response would be to use your own "cowardice" but the izzatwallas are busy trumpeting patriotic jargon about "befitting reply" and "maximum restraint". The establishment is useless if they can't fight the next war. I see no evidence of it even trying to.
 
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Please don’t forget that the enemies are well exposed in Pakistan & one of those many rented whore enemies is Mahmood Achakzai.
 
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Haven't you got things back to front? You aren't launching hybrid wars, very simply, because you can't. At best, it goes into asymmetric warfare, sneaking people in through the back door, or into abandoned positions on the front line. It was those corpses that didn't get picked up, and even your decoration for a killed officer came from a recommendation from the Indian Army.

And this you call a full on offensive?

Once you can get your facts in order, come back.

PS: Forgot to remind you of something else: we can adopt hybrid warfare, but we don't. Even Modi and his poodle have got it; there is no need to do something to you when you are doing it to yourself with such brisk efficiency.

:D :D :D

You telling me that we don't have the capacity to launch hybrid war? :D :D We don't involve ourselves in such pathetic things because it is your country main point of attack. We don't need such things because we believes in making our country better rather than destroying other's country.

You better go and read history to know how many times we have launched offensive attacks on your military.

You can't adopt any kind of hybrid warfare, it is a matter of countries with sophisticated technologies and those countries whom are developed not your country in which 72 liberation movements are going on. Don't you know how your PM modi was welcomed in UK by sikhs and kashmiris demanding their rights?

I don't even bother myself reading your entire post because whenever I present proofs you jump to something else because you don't have the capability to answer anything and please move away from spreading false information to your fellow indiots.
 
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:D :D :D

You telling me that we don't have the capacity to launch hybrid war? :D :D We don't involve ourselves in such pathetic things because it is your country main point of attack. We don't need such things because we believes in making our country better rather than destroying other's country.

We saw that - the whole world saw that - in 1948. Again in 1965, and in 1999, and in 2002.

You better go and read history to know how many times we have launched offensive attacks on your military.

Actually, everybody knows that: part of your policy of making your country better, rather than destroying other's country.

You can't adopt any kind of hybrid warfare, it is a matter of countries with sophisticated technologies and those countries whom are developed not your country in which 72 liberation movements are going on.

So your COAS did not mean us? That's all we wanted to know.

Don't you know how your PM modi was welcomed in UK by sikhs and kashmiris demanding their rights?

Also by Prime Minister May, and the Prince of Wales, demanding THEIR rights - more trade, greater exchanges....

I don't even bother myself reading your entire post because whenever I present proofs you jump to something else because you don't have the capability to answer anything and please move away from spreading false information to your fellow indiots.

You spend an awful lot of time telling me - and everybody else - that you don't spend time on our posts.

If you mean what you say, if you are not a proven liar, don't reply, and prove that you have other things to do.
 
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But but.. the Bajwa doctrine?
The masterful piece of machevellian clausewitz-esque revolution?
 
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We saw that - the whole world saw that - in 1948. Again in 1965, and in 1999, and in 2002.

:D :D Yeah in 2002 you lost 789-1874 soldiers without a combat which shows your military readiness. in 1999 we destroyed you and you ran towards UN and USA. In 1965 we dismantled you. I hope sanity prevails in you and you come up with facts rather than your indiocy.

Also by Prime Minister May, and the Prince of Wales, demanding THEIR rights - more trade, greater exchanges....


You spend an awful lot of time telling me - and everybody else - that you don't spend time on our posts.

If you mean what you say, if you are not a proven liar, don't reply, and prove that you have other things to do.

Crap is being spread by you everywhere and it irritates me so I have to reply to proven illiterates like you. Why don't you stop replying to posts and get your facts right first?

I spend a great time replying to a clown and listening to his self made foolish facts.
 
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:D :D Yeah in 2002 you lost 789-1874 soldiers without a combat which shows your military readiness. in 1999 we destroyed you and you ran towards UN and USA. In 1965 we dismantled you. I hope sanity prevails in you and you come up with facts rather than your indiocy.

Of course. We ran fast, and you ran faster. Before our PM had disentangled his dhoti and got out of his chair, your PM was blubbering to Bill Clinton. Want to read the proof?

As for 1965, I'm bored with putting up testimony of Pakistanis that you got thrashed. Quite obviously what happened is not important for you; putting up something that you think glorifies you is important.

Hollow.




Crap is being spread by you everywhere and it irritates me so I have to reply to proven illiterates like you. Why don't you stop replying to posts and get your facts right first?

I spend a great time replying to a clown and listening to his self made foolish facts.

All the facts are public and backed by evidence. On your part you have your own opinion. Not much of a contest.
 
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Of course. We ran fast, and you ran faster. Before our PM had disentangled his dhoti and got out of his chair, your PM was blubbering to Bill Clinton. Want to read the proof?

As for 1965, I'm bored with putting up testimony of Pakistanis that you got thrashed. Quite obviously what happened is not important for you; putting up something that you think glorifies you is important.

Hollow.






All the facts are public and backed by evidence. On your part you have your own opinion. Not much of a contest.

You were telling us how rape epidemic in India is just a PDF event.

Your country basically is doing rape politics of Raja Dahirs era.

But i respect your courage and duty to country. As a professional i can understand your Dilemma although i am jobless jack
 
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You were telling us how rape epidemic in India is just a PDF event.

Your country basically is doing rape politics of Raja Dahirs era.

But i respect your courage and duty to country. As a professional i can understand your Dilemma although i am jobless jack

Noted and filed under W.
 
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The COAS and his simpleton minions need to read this. http://newsweekpakistan.com/hybrid-war-strong-vs-hard-states/
Don't like linking to newsweekpakistan but here it is:

‘HYBRID WAR’: STRONG VS. HARD STATES
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BY EJAZ HAIDER

IT’S TIME TO BECOME SMARTER AND APPRECIATE THE SITUATION INSTEAD OF SITUATING THE APPRECIATION
“Our enemies know that they cannot beat us fair and square and have thus subjected us to a cruel, evil and protracted hybrid war. They are trying to weaken our resolve by weakening us from within.”

Thus spoke Chief of Army Staff General Qamar Javed Bajwa, while addressing the graduation parade at the Pakistan Military Academy.

The reference dovetailed with the content of his two earlier speeches on April 12 in Peshawar and Rawalpindi, where he stated that “‘engineered protests’ would not be allowed to reverse the gains of counterterrorism operations [in FATA] and cautioned… against forgetting [the] sacrifices of ‘real heroes’.”

How should we process these references?

Consider the first statement, which begins with “they cannot beat us fair and square.”

Battles and wars, if planned and executed properly, are about gaining an unfair (read: asymmetric) advantage over the adversary.

Corollary 1: there’s no space for a ‘fair and square’ contest in war. In fact, one of the cardinal principles of waging war, put humorously, states clearly that “if you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn’t plan properly.”

Corollary 2: extrapolating from the first, there’s also no space in war for accusing the adversary of being smarter than you. If you cannot do everything and more better than your adversary, you will be defeated. War doesn’t like self-pity or excuses.

Next, we have the reference to “a cruel, evil and protracted hybrid war.” Another principle of waging war (or a battle) states clearly that one must plan carefully and execute ruthlessly.

Corollary 3: adjectivizing the adversary’s actions means nothing. Henry V’s speech before the Gates of Harfleur is a good example of the futility of “sending precepts to the Leviathan” after the battery has begun.

That said, Bajwa’s reference to “hybrid war” is the most important one, not just because he is right about that but also because the term, bandied about since circa 2005, has become vague precisely because of its overuse (and abuse).

Personally, I prefer non-linear war, distinguishing it from the linear, a planned strategy that unfolds sequentially. Non-linear war is “the simultaneous deployment of multiple, complementary military and non-military” tactics and strategies.

In other words, what is now called ‘hybrid’ is, and can be, a combination of conventional and unconventional, regular and irregular, overt and covert, physical and cyber means of waging wars. The unconventional here does not refer to the NBC [nuclear, biological and chemical] environment. It denotes and connotes every possible tool—political, socioeconomic, social media, demands for rights et cetera—that can be deployed and employed against an adversary.

Put another way, if state X has multiple fault-lines, state Y can, instead of overt threats of employing kinetic means, target those weak spots to get a force-multiplier effect. This is the most effective way of waging war because it relies on getting the society in state X to act in ways, often unwittingly, to weaken it and it is undeclared and deniable. The adversary only has to exploit (and aggravate) what’s already brewing and expect state X to employ highhanded strategies to worsen the situation in trying to address it.

That, as should be obvious, is the tricky part.

Let me explain: back in 1995, the late Nazih Ayubi put out a book titled Over-stating the Arab State: Politics and Society in the Middle East. Among other observations, Ayubi called the Arab states ‘hard’ as opposed to ‘strong’, arguing that while strong states have a reliable compact with society and can “work with and through other centers of power in society”, ‘hard’ states are “often violent because [they are] weak” and tend to “enforce a detailed, standardized regulation of the economy and the society.”

In the end, while hard states can arrest thousands of people, they cannot work out the compact that allows societal networks to accept the state normatively and not because of its coercive capacity.

The Arab Spring is a terribly good example of that. We saw what happened and how and where it has ended: in civil wars, a counter military coup in the case of Egypt and monarchial attempts elsewhere atperestroika and glasnost to address the threat while remaining wary of openness.

That’s the paradox: if a state has been hard long enough, how and at what speed must it travel to the safety of becoming a strong state. There are no easy answers to that.

In October 2014, in an article for Hilal, captioned Fighting 21st Century Wars, I quoted from a speech by General Valery Gerasimov, the current Chief of the General Staff of Russian Armed Forces. [NB: several analysts began to tag it as the Gerasimov doctrine, which it isn’t. He was merely looking at the Arab Spring and other color revolutions.] Gerasimov noted: “In the 21st century we have seen a tendency toward blurring the lines between the states of war and peace. Wars are no longer declared and, having begun, proceed according to an unfamiliar template.

“The experience of military conflicts—including those connected with the so-called colored revolutions in north Africa and the Middle East—confirm that a perfectly thriving state can, in a matter of months and even days, be transformed into an arena of fierce armed conflict, become a victim of foreign intervention, and sink into a web of chaos, humanitarian catastrophe, and civil war.”

As should be obvious, the issue is tricky because most of these states became or have become chaotic not because people initially took up arms but because they began asking for constitutional and legal rights while the states responded in and through the only means they knew: coercion.

If Bajwa is right and he is at the level of the threat he perceives, then he needs to appreciate a very basic fact about what he has called hybrid war: this war’s tools are effective only to the extent that a state is hard and weak and refuses to become strong. The effectiveness of the adversary’s strategy is contained not in what he can do to exploit the situation, but the manner in which the target state responds in its predictive ways.

Put another way, if we know that Y is trying to target unrest in some sections of our society and state, it won’t be smart on our part to ignore the reasons for that unrest and start focusing on who is exploiting it, to what extent and how. A non-kinetic, covert threat cannot be addressed through kinetic, highhanded means. It can also not be addressed by doubling down on precisely that which might have caused the unrest in the first place.

There’s much more can be said about hybrid (read: nonlinear) war but we shall leave it for some other time. Suffice to say here that disappearing people, interfering with scholars and their work, making threatening phone-calls to students and activists is not going to cut because that is exactly the behavior the adversary is counting on.

It’s time to become smarter and appreciate the situation instead of situating the appreciation.
 
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Of course. We ran fast, and you ran faster. Before our PM had disentangled his dhoti and got out of his chair, your PM was blubbering to Bill Clinton. Want to read the proof?

As for 1965, I'm bored with putting up testimony of Pakistanis that you got thrashed. Quite obviously what happened is not important for you; putting up something that you think glorifies you is important.

Hollow.






All the facts are public and backed by evidence. On your part you have your own opinion. Not much of a contest.

:D :D :D

That dehati aurat is nothing than a bunch of crap. He's a butcher nothing more. As for Kargil and 1965 this forum is filled with proofs proving how we dismantled you so I won't bother going in it again.

Which facts are public and backed by evidence? I shared videos and news posted by your own media and still it is my personal opinion :D :D :D Ignorant

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/protests-to-greet-pm-modi-in-uk/575369.html
 
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