Controversy over Rampal power plant site

[INDIC]

ARE BEKUB,you will also lose your said of sundarban if both our countrys power players go with this project.

sunderban is a preserved area in India. But if we will allow a power plant in India why would we allow export of electricity to some other country.

 

[asad71]

How can a barrage make Bangladesh a desert. Are you observing same with Chinese Dams on Brahmaputra.



If the plant is built in India, why will we allow it transmitting to Bangladesh.

We never sought this project from India knowing how third rated their technology is - not to speak about their attitude problem. Indians are thrusting this on us through their "dalals" in BD and graft-seekers in both countries. Anyway we will scrap this afte we scrap BAL.

 

[TopCat]

Nothing will happen to Sundarban. Power plant will emit CO2 which is food for the greeneries there. Make sure there is no sulphur.

 

[kalu_miah]

Nothing will happen to Sundarban. Power plant will emit CO2 which is food for the greeneries there. Make sure there is no sulphur.

There is no clean coal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_coal

Environmentalists such as Dan Becker, director of the Sierra Club's Global Warming and Energy Program, believes that the term clean coal is misleading: "There is no such thing as clean coal and there never will be. It's an oxymoron."[31] The Sierra Club's Coal Campaign has launched a site refuting the clean coal statements and advertising of the coal industry.[32]

Complaints focus on the environmental impacts of coal extraction, high costs to sequester carbon, and uncertainty of how to manage end result pollutants and radionuclides.

The paleontologist and influential environmental activis Tim Flannery made the assertion that the concept of clean coal might not be viable for all geographical locations.[33][34]

Critics also believe that the continuing construction of coal-powered plants (whether or not they use carbon sequestration techniques) encourages unsustainable mining practices for coal, which can strip away mountains, hillsides, and natural areas. They also point out that there can be a large amount of energy required and pollution emitted in transporting the coal to the power plants.

The Reality Coalition, a nonprofit organization composed of Alliance for Climate Protection, Sierra Club, National Wildlife Federation, the Natural Resources Defense Council and the League of Conservation Voters, ran a series of television commercials in 2008 and 2009. The commercials were highly critical of clean coal, stating that without capturing CO2 emissions and storing it safely that it cannot be called clean coal.[35]

Greenpeace is a major opponent of the concept because they view emissions and wastes as not being avoided but instead transferred from one waste stream to another.[36]

 

[kalu_miah]

Isn't wind power expensive? Both wind and solar takes up a lot of space and investment for too little energy. Rather we implement a system of compulsory solar panels in building roof tops as to reduce pressure on the national grid and this may go a long way in ensuring energy security.

Nuclear is a good option and is cost effective in the long run but requires large investment at the very beginning. In the future there might be small 150-300 MW 3rd gen nuclear plants with relatively low cost. Our energy mix should be heavily dependent on domestic coal (or high quality coals from Indoneshia/AUS) and gas along with nuclear. House based solar panels would add to the mix.

Wind power is getting cheaper and turbine costs are coming down. China and India both manufactures wind turbines, we should go for the Chinese obviously. It needs high sustained wind velocity to make it cost economic. I believe our coastal areas have that, as I remember from my days in Chittagong and Cox's bazar. Patenga beach and Cox's Bazar both are fairly windy throughout the year.

Roof top solar is a great option for our cities as well as villages. The cost for solar is coming down every year.

We should avoid coal as much as possible as it creates an environmental mess in surrounding areas, not to mention the green house gas. Gen III Nuclear is a much better option. Many mini, small and mid sized reactors will come out in next 5 years.

Localized production with wind, solar and mini nuclear (as small as 10 MW) can reduce the cost of transmission lines.

 

[the just]

sunderban is a preserved area in India. But if we will allow a power plant in India why would we allow export of electricity to some other country.

Does India and Bangladesh have a great wall kind of solid structure between our respective two part of sundarban?how will you control the ecological destruction from one side to other?farakka is making us dessert its also taking away this beautiful heritage from you too.
There are other projects which are in India that will supply BD with electricity. Its not free man.we pay more then you deserve.

 

[Luffy 500]

Wind power is getting cheaper and turbine costs are coming down. China and India both manufactures wind turbines, we should go for the Chinese obviously. It needs high sustained wind velocity to make it cost economic. I believe our coastal areas have that, as I remember from my days in Chittagong and Cox's bazar. Patenga beach and Cox's Bazar both are fairly windy throughout the year.

Roof top solar is a great option for our cities as well as villages. The cost for solar is coming down every year.

We should avoid coal as much as possible as it creates an environmental mess in surrounding areas, not to mention the green house gas. Gen III Nuclear is a much better option. Many mini, small and mid sized reactors will come out in next 5 years.

Localized production with wind, solar and mini nuclear (as small as 10 MW) can reduce the cost of transmission lines.

Coal is vital to keep the cost to a bare minimum. And we also we have our own coal reserves which should be used.The coals being planned to be imported from across the border by awami fagots are of low quality. There are superb quality coals exported by AUS and Indoneshia. A energy deal like that with both AUS and Indoneshia will foster strategic relation and may even bolster our chance in joining ASEAN and transpacific free trade zone in the future. Environmental concerns can be meet by going green in other ways like securing forestry and mountains and encouraging planting of trees in cities and building roof tops. We would be emitting insignificant % of green house gases relative to the rest of the world. And yes wind and solar price will most likely go down and definitely be an option. If we can get our acts together we can be a net electricity exporter to Myanmar and if possible NE.

 

[INDIC]

Does India and Bangladesh have a great wall kind of solid structure between our respective two part of sundarban?how will you control the ecological destruction from one side to other?farakka is making us dessert its also taking away this beautiful heritage from you too.
There are other projects which are in India that will supply BD with electricity. Its not free man.we pay more then you deserve.

How can a barrage change Bangladesh into desert but not the multiple Chinese dams on Brahmaputra.

 

[eastwatch]

Nothing will happen to Sundarban. Power plant will emit CO2 which is food for the greeneries there. Make sure there is no sulphur.

Wrong, because the burning of coal will produce sulpher, CO, CO2 and many other pollution. Burning of 1 ton of coal produces 2.85 ton of CO2 that will mix with the atmosphere to produce greenhouse effects. Burning of fossil fuels including oil and coal destroys the environment as well as the ecology. Think of the animals and birds in the Sundarban. They will die out and the tree leaves will be blackened with coal dusts.

 

[kalu_miah]

Coal is vital to keep the cost to a bare minimum. And we also we have our own coal reserves which should be used.The coals being planned to be imported from across the border by awami fagots are of low quality. There are superb quality coals exported by AUS and Indoneshia. A energy deal like that with both AUS and Indoneshia will foster strategic relation and may even bolster our chance in joining ASEAN and transpacific free trade zone in the future. Environmental concerns can be meet by going green in other ways like securing forestry and mountains and encouraging planting of trees in cities and building roof tops. We would be emitting insignificant % of green house gases relative to the rest of the world. And yes wind and solar price will most likely go down and definitely be an option. If we can get our acts together we can be a net electricity exporter to Myanmar and if possible NE.

Lets agree to disagree on the coal issue. I agree with eastwatch on this. Coal is messy. Instead we should concentrate on new gen. nuclear reactors III, III+, IV etc. They have a lot more potential and are problem free in the long term. Our goal should be to eventually produce our own nuclear power stations, some decades in the future, working with Japanese and Koreans. Before Fusion replaces fission, that is the only technology of large scale power generation that is viable to replace the practice of fossil fuel burning.

I think China made a big mistake going all out with coal, they will pay for this mistake for many generations.