Civil war in Ukraine: News & discussion

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It looks like Minsk out the window come negotiation failure on December 21.

 

[Superboy]

looks like no deal unless Ukraine army leaves oblast borders

Rebels say new Ukraine peace talks will not take place on Sunday: IFX| Reuters

 

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Russia Reserves Adequate Response to Ukraine Freedom Support Act: Official / Sputnik International

 

[Hindustani78]

SBU prevents terrorist attack in central Kyiv| Ukrinform

KYIV, December 19 /Ukrinform/. The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) has prevented a terrorist attack in the center of Kyiv.

An advisor to the SBU chairman, Markiyan Lubkivsky, said this at a briefing on Friday, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.

"SBU has managed to prevent an awful tragedy in downtown Kyiv, a terror attack that was to be perpetrated just recently," Lubkivsky said.

He said that resident of Luhansk Anastasia Kovalenko, who had a bomb in her bag, had been detained on suspicion of trying to commit the attack.

"Kovalenko arrived by bus from Luhansk in Kyiv on December 17. Our operational workers have already had information about her arrival," Lubkivsky said.

 

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[Hindustani78]

Obama will never sign the bill.

Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Support Act| Ukrinform

KYIV, December 19 /Ukrinform/. Bill H.R.5859 entitled "Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014" has come into force after it was signed on Thursday by U.S. President Barack Obama.

His statement in this regard has been posted on the website of the White House, an Ukrinform correspondent reported.

"Today, I have signed H.R. 5859, the Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014, into law," Obama said.

He also said that "signing this legislation does not signal a change in the Administration's sanctions policy, which we have carefully calibrated in accordance with developments on the ground and coordinated with our allies and partners."

"At this time, the Administration does not intend to impose sanctions under this law, but the Act gives the Administration additional authorities that could be utilized, if circumstances warranted," Obama said.

He said that the United States "will continue to work closely with allies and partners in Europe and internationally to respond to developments in Ukraine and will continue to review and calibrate our sanctions to respond to Russia's actions."

He again called on Russia to end its occupation and attempted annexation of Crimea, cease support to separatists in eastern Ukraine, and implement the obligations it signed up to under the Minsk agreements.

"As I have said many times, our goal is to promote a diplomatic solution that provides a lasting resolution to the conflict and helps to promote growth and stability in Ukraine and regionally, including in Russia," Obama said.

In this context, he called on Russia's leadership to implement the Minsk agreements and to reach a lasting and comprehensive resolution to the conflict which respects Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

"We remain prepared to roll back sanctions should Russia take the necessary steps," Obama concluded.

 

[Superboy]

He again called on Russia to end its occupation and attempted annexation of Crimea

Is Obama crazy or what? Crimea is Russian territory under Russian law. If the US has balls enough, then fight Crimea War 2. If not, then shove it.

 

[Hindustani78]

US will never give weapons to Ukraine. Too expensive.

NATO members will give weapons to Ukraine and already that process has been started.

Is Obama crazy or what? Crimea is Russian territory under Russian law. If the US has balls enough, then fight Crimea War 2. If not, then shove it.

Crimea issue will be always there now between US/EU and Russia.

 

[Superboy]

NATO members will give weapons to Ukraine and already that process has been started.

So what? Everyone knows 5.45 by 39 is way more lethal than 5.56 by 45. 5.56 by 45 is a 1960s bullet. 5.45 by 39 is a 1970s bullet and tumbles more.

Crimea issue will be always there now between US/EU and Russia.

For the next few hundred years. But the fact of the matter is Crimea is Russian territory.

He again called on Russia to end its occupation and attempted annexation of Crimea, cease support to separatists in eastern Ukraine

After the US backed Kosovo independence, consider Donbas a payback.

 

[Hindustani78]

So what? Everyone knows 5.45 by 39 is way more lethal than 5.56 by 45. 5.56 by 45 is a 1960s bullet. 5.45 by 39 is a 1970s bullet and tumbles more.

Ukrainians are doing things by themselves

Kyiv Rus battalion demonstrates self-made twin-fifties - Міністерство оборони України
Wednesday, December 17. CHENIHIV — Kyiv Rus battalion demonstrated self-made twin-fifties on light armored trailer to Petro Mekhed, Deputy Minister of Defense.

“Soldier Ivan Savelyev proposed the idea of this combat weapon, he is a designer and a manufacturer,” Col. Valeriy Vovk, Deputy Commanding Officer of the unit, told.

Ivan Savelyev, 41-year old, lives in Kyiv, did not serve in the armed forces but he likes military sphere very much and understands well various small arms. Having joined the battalion, he decided to improve heavy gun.

For the next few hundred years. But the fact of the matter is Crimea is Russian territory..

For Ukraine, EU and NATO its has been annexed by Russian Federation

Crimea to vote in Russia referendum, Moscow vetoes UN move | World | News | Toro


[QUOTEAfter the US backed Kosovo independence, consider Donbas a payback.[/QUOTE]

Was Kosovo ever part of Russian Federation or USSR ?

 

[Superboy]

For Ukraine, EU and NATO its has been annexed by Russian Federation

So what? Crimeans are Russians. They are not Ukrainians.

Was Kosovo ever part of Russian Federation or USSR ?

Kosovo was part of Serbia. Kosovo will never be a UN member state, just like Taiwan. Serbia does not recognize Kosovo independence.

 

[Hindustani78]

So what? Crimeans are Russians. They are not Ukrainians.

I know there would be no end to this argument. How i think on this subject i am saying

 

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[Hindustani78]

Kosovo was part of Serbia. Kosovo will never be a UN member state, just like Taiwan. Serbia does not recognize Kosovo independence.

Serbia and Kosovo reached deal way back in 2013 broke by EU.
BBC News - Serbia and Kosovo reach EU-brokered landmark accord

Today News

Belgrade "ready to continue Kosovo dialogue"
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2014&mm=12&dd=19&nav_id=92630
December 19, 2014
In a debate on information on the process of accession to the European Union, it was said that the Serbian government is committed to the European path and that it is striving to meet all the obligations in the accession process.

Head of the EU Mission to Serbia Michael Davenport, who took part in the debate, described Serbia's readiness to implement the Brussels agreement and contribute to a normalization of the situation in Kosovo as high.

President "working intensively" on Kosovo proposal
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2014&mm=12&dd=18&nav_id=92614

 

[Superboy]

Obama authorizes ‘economic embargo’ on Russia’s Crimea — RT USA

Obama is a coward, don't dare to fight Crimea war 2. Chicken gawk gawk gawk.