Civil war in Ukraine: News & discussion

Hindustani78 · Dec 20, 2014

Ukrainian UAV Spectrator tested in Chernihiv Oblast - Міністерство оборони України
Monday, December 15. CHERNIHIV — Specialists of the State Scientific Test Center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue testing the national drones.

Military scientists tested UAV Spectrator manufactured at Ukrainian enterprise Politeco-Aero. Servicemen praised the real characteristics of this drone at low temperatures, under artillery attacks and electromagnetic interferences.

According to Lt. Col. Vitaliy Kuravsky, Chief of State Scientific Test Center, Armed Forces of Ukraine, the primary aim is to define possibility of Spectrator use in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Superboy said:
Obama authorizes ‘economic embargo’ on Russia’s Crimea — RT USA

Obama is a coward, don't dare to fight Crimea war 2. Chicken gawk gawk gawk.

Its unified decision of United states and EU

EU formally publishes anti-Crimean sanctions
19.12.2014

EU restrictive measures on Crimea and Sevastopol approved by the European Union Council on December 18 were published by the Official Journal of the European Union (OJ) on Friday.

From now on acquiring real estate assets or expanding real estate assets acquired earlier, acquiring enterprises or expanding one's stake in operating companies, lending to organizations operating in Crimea, setting up new enterprises in Crimea and Sevastopol in partnership with local organizations and rendering investment services in the acquisition of real estate assets or enterprises and their expansion is prohibited.

The EU legislative act also imposes trade restrictions. Selling various types of commodities and technologies which may be used in transport, telecommunications, energy, and oil, gas and mineral mining to individuals and legal entities in Crimea and Sevastopol or with the purpose of their use in Crimea and Sevastopol is also prohibited.

Superboy · Dec 20, 2014

If the US and the EU don't dare to fight Crimean War 2, then gawk gawk gawk. Ukraine will never have Crimea back. :laugh:

Crimean War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hindustani78 · Dec 20, 2014

Superboy said:
If the US and the EU don't dare to fight Crimean War 2, then gawk gawk gawk. Ukraine will never have Crimea back.

Crimean War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sanctions are even some sort of war only but in economical way but we know that things will change with time. West can start all out war with Russia but it will be not any solution because too much death and destruction the region will see again.

Rouble fall, sanctions hurt Russia's economy: Medvedev| Reuters
By Katya Golubkova and Gabriela Baczynska
MOSCOW Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:07am EST

(Reuters) - The weakness of the rouble is hurting Russia, which has lost tens of billions of dollars because of sanctions imposed by the West in the Ukraine crisis, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said on Wednesday.

In a sober assessment of an economy edging toward recession, Medvedev said Russia should reduce its reliance on energy exports, which makes it vulnerable to falls in the global price of oil.

Superboy · Dec 20, 2014

Hindustani78 said:
Sanctions are even some sort of war only but in economical way.

Rouble fall, sanctions hurt Russia's economy: Medvedev| Reuters
By Katya Golubkova and Gabriela Baczynska
MOSCOW Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:07am EST

(Reuters) - The weakness of the rouble is hurting Russia, which has lost tens of billions of dollars because of sanctions imposed by the West in the Ukraine crisis, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said on Wednesday.

In a sober assessment of an economy edging toward recession, Medvedev said Russia should reduce its reliance on energy exports, which makes it vulnerable to falls in the global price of oil.

Sanctions are not war. Sanctions are coward. No country can ever be beaten by sanctions. Even if 1,000,000,000,000 rubles = 1 dollar it doesn't mean anything.

Hindustani78 · Dec 20, 2014

Superboy said:
Sanctions are not war. Sanctions are coward. No country can ever be beaten by sanction. Even if 1,000,000,000,000 rubles = 1 dollar it doesn't mean anything.

Sanctions are part of war only which makes the population to revolt against the establishment as sanctions always hurt majority of innocent citizens.

TASS: Russia - US does not hide that sanctions aim at regime change in Russia — diplomat
December 08, 11:21 UTC+3
The way out of the current US sanctions situation will take many years, Deputy Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said

MOSCOW, December 8. /TASS/. The goal of Washington’s sanctions is to create conditions for changing the regime in Russia, Deputy Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov told Russia’s lower house of parliament on Monday.

“The fact is not concealed that the sanctions’ aim is to create social and economic conditions to carry out the regime change in Russia,” Ryabkov said, speaking on Russia-US relations.

Superboy · Dec 20, 2014

Hindustani78 said:
Sanctions are part of war only which makes the population to revolt against the establishment as sanctions always hurt majority of innocent citizens.

The people cannot revolt unless with weapons sent from foreign countries. Chance of revolt in Russia is 0.

Hindustani78 · Dec 20, 2014

Superboy said:
The people cannot revolt unless with weapons sent from foreign countries. Chance of revolt in Russia is 0.

What we are seeing in Chechnya since years ?

Superboy · Dec 20, 2014

Hindustani78 said:
What we are seeing in Chechnya since years ?

Chechens are Russian citizens.

Hindustani78 · Dec 20, 2014

Superboy said:
Chechens are Russian citizens.

You know what i have told now

Superboy said:
The people cannot revolt unless with weapons sent from foreign countries. Chance of revolt in Russia is 0.

vostok · Dec 20, 2014

Hindustani78 · Dec 20, 2014

ATO NEWS: Illegal armed formations complete provocative attacks - Міністерство оборони України
Illegal armed formations complete provocative attacks

Saturday, December 20. DONBAS — According to the ATO press center, in the last night the terrorists have completed small arms, grenade launchers and reactive artillery provocative attacks.

Near Olkhovatka the militants used GRAD against Ukrainian positions. And they used grenade launchers near Nikishino.

Terrorists attacked Ukrainian military near Sokolniki, Opytne, Krymske, Pisky, Debaltseve and new terminal of Donetsk Airport.

Three times the enemy’s AUVs were seen near Mariupil.

Ukrainian troops shelled with Grads and grenade launchers last night - press center| Ukrinform
Ukrainian troops shelled with Grads and grenade launchers last night - press center
KYIV, December 20 /Ukrinform/. Terrorists continued armed provocations in the anti-terrorist operation area in eastern Ukraine from 21.10 on Friday to 06.00 on Saturday, using small arms, grenade launchers and artillery, the press center for the anti-terrorist operation has reported.

In particular, last night, in the area of Olkhovatka in Donetsk region, illegal armed groups opened fire on Ukrainian soldiers with BM-21 Grad multiple rocket launchers.

Bandits used grenade launchers near Nikishyne in Donetsk region.

Terrorists also fired with small arms at Ukrainian military near the localities of Sokolnyky, Opytne, Krymske, Pisky, Debaltseve and a new terminal of the Donetsk airport. Some settlements were fired on several times.

The enemy's drones were spotted in the area of Mariupol. In particular, they circled over Mariupol three times from 17.50 to 22.17.

Hindustani78 said:
NATO will not simply give things nor EU before completely joining NATO allies. Already the process has been started and NATO allies are giving training to Ukrainian soldiers.

NATO experts visit Sergeants Training Center in Chernihiv Region - Міністерство оборони України

Saturday, December 20. CHERNIHIV REGION — In the framework of the visit of the NATO experts on development of sergeants’ professional military education to Ukraine, they visited the Sergeants’ Training Center in Desna, Chernihiv Region.

The guests learnt the Center structure, functions and tasks, evaluated the quality of sergeants trainings and toured the center.

“We’re the prospective training center. Our personnel include sergeants. There are 24 instructors trained under the international standards,” Warrant Officer Serhiy Oleh, Chief of the Center, told.

It is planned that 170 instructors will be trained in the Center next year.

“In spite of combat actions and challenging period in Ukraine, the existing system of sergeants’ professional training needs to be changed. The primary attention should be paid to leadership and professionalism of sergeants. We’ll help you,” retired Maj. Gen. Boguslav Pacek, Head of Delegation, NATO Adviser to Ukraine on Military Education Reform, said.