Civil war in Ukraine: News & discussion

[Superboy]

Russian soldier admitted fighting in Ukraine...



His VKontakte has been removed.

volunteer

 

[Gabriel92]

Yep volunteer.... ask to their mothers and wives if they were all volunteers....
I forgot... west agents paid to say propaganda and to lie...

deceased Russian soldiers: Widow of Russian Officer Zakhar Timin Killed in Ukraine: Our Government Is Guilty in His Death - He Was not a Volunteer. PHOTOS - Russia, death, Ukraine, servicemen, Russian Aggression Against Ukraine, deceased Russian soldiers (01.10.14 15:15) « Society « Photo news | Censor.NET

 

[Superboy]

Yep volunteer.... ask to their mothers and wives if they were all volunteers....
I forgot... west agents paid to say propaganda and to lie...

deceased Russian soldiers: Widow of Russian Officer Zakhar Timin Killed in Ukraine: Our Government Is Guilty in His Death - He Was not a Volunteer. PHOTOS - Russia, death, Ukraine, servicemen, Russian Aggression Against Ukraine, deceased Russian soldiers (01.10.14 15:15) « Society « Photo news | Censor.NET

Eastern Ukrainians are ethnically Russian. Millions of Russians will volunteer to defend eastern Ukrainians from western Ukrainians who are not ethnically Russian. Likewise, if Czechs invade Austria, whose people are ethnically German, you wouldn't expect German people of Germany to sit and do nothing about it.

 

[Gabriel92]

They're actually in Ukraine.
There's a country called "Russian federation" if they want.

 

[Superboy]

They're actually in Ukraine.
There's a country called "Russian federation" if they want.

Austrians are ethnically German. They live in Austria. They don't move to Germany. Eastern Ukrainians are ethnically Russian. Why should they move to Russia? They want their own country, which is called New Russia.

 

[vostok]

Eastern Ukrainians are ethnically Russian. Millions of Russians will volunteer to defend eastern Ukrainians from western Ukrainians who are not ethnically Russian. Likewise, if Czechs invade Austria, whose people are ethnically German, you wouldn't expect German people of Germany to sit and do nothing about it.

More than a hundred years ago western Ukrainians also considered themselvezs Russian. They call themselves "Ruthenians", "Rusyns" (Русины). This name is preserved nowadays only in Transcarpathia. However, in the late 19 th and early 20 th century, Austrians, and then Poles began fighting with pro-Russian sentiments in Galicia - the current Western Ukraine. They even used a concentration camps, Talerhof and Terezin, where was destroyed about 70,000 pro-Russian Rusyns. If you call yourself a "Ukrainian" - you were released from a concentration camp. Since in Galicia there was almoust no educated people and the local church was sold to Rome long ago, the Ruthenians in 2 generation completely reforged in the "Ukrainians" and taught to hate everything Russian.

 

[Superboy]

rebel Msta-S self propelled howitzers blasting Ukrainian soldiers to Valhalla

rebel D-30 howitzers blasting Ukrainian soldiers to Valhalla

translated into funny English

Doesn't Konkurs M have thermal sight? The guy said he was not able to see through smoke.

Motorola's Dream looks like really tough armor. Seems like Level 6 protection to me

 

[500]

Doesn't Konkurs M have thermal sight? The guy said he was not able to see through smoke.

Thermal sights are not immune to smoke.

 

[Superboy]

Thermal sights are not immune to smoke.

Just found out Konkurs M is not fitted with thermal sight as standard. It's an extra accessory that can be retrofitted.

NPO GIPO - Products

Newer ones like Metis M and Kornet have standard thermal sights.

 

[nekrasa]

More than a hundred years ago western Ukrainians also considered themselvezs Russian. They call themselves "Ruthenians", "Rusyns" (Русины). This name is preserved nowadays only in Transcarpathia. However, in the late 19 th and early 20 th century, Austrians, and then Poles began fighting with pro-Russian sentiments in Galicia - the current Western Ukraine. They even used a concentration camps, Talerhof and Terezin, where was destroyed about 70,000 pro-Russian Rusyns. If you call yourself a "Ukrainian" - you were released from a concentration camp. Since in Galicia there was almoust no educated people and the local church was sold to Rome long ago, the Ruthenians in 2 generation completely reforged in the "Ukrainians" and taught to hate everything Russian.

I don't know if your understanding of history is full of martyrdom of Russian poeole, but it seems so.

Don't try to explain ukrainian history by this kind of misunderstending and ordinary lies
First lie: Telerhof wasn't concetration camp!Telerhof was an internment camp, created during First War World.

The distinction is very important, it helps us to understend world better. Also the number of 'destroyed' isn't the same as wiki says...

By the way Russia and then Soviet Union was precursor of this kind of 'summer camps' for bad peoples I guess...

History of Ukrainie is much more complicated, and telling that story: they were good russian people but the West had killed, raped and abused them, telling that story is far away from the truth.

EOT

 

[Superboy]

Already posted. Rebels put a knife through the captured Ukrainian flag, literally.

 

[nekrasa]

Already posted. Rebels put a knife through the captured Ukrainian flag, literally.

Ok, I didn't see, previous page, sorry...

Russian soldier admitted fighting in Ukraine...



His VKontakte has been removed.

What about these 'fighters' who have seen in Ukraine as well, do you recognize them:

 

[Superboy]

Rebel new standard body armor Motorola's Dream. Looks like Ratnik to me. Small arms can't shoot through it.

Ratnik (program) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

At least 1,252 Ukrainian servicemen (not including Right Sector and OUN fighters) have been sent to Valhalla in Donbas so far By comparison, the US lost 486 soldiers in 2003 in the first year of Iraq war.

Poroshenko: Over 1,250 Ukrainian servicemen killed in hostilities in Donbas

 

[vostok]

 

[flamer84]

Ok, I didn't see, previous page, sorry...



What about these 'fighters' who have seen in Ukraine as well, do you recognize them:

Wow...what a comparison ! Westerners are handing out cookies while Russians self propelled howitzers.Quite the same...jeez ,looks like the mother of stupidity is always pregnant with guys like you.