Civil war in Ukraine: News & discussion

[Hindustani78]

In Sumy, on the Walk of Fame, on the anniversary of the death of 25-year sumchanyna Samosadova Alexander, his mother and little daughter handed combat medal

"For courage" of III degree.Last year near the village Krasnosel'skii, Starobyshivskoho district in Donetsk region, cut short the life of a volunteer soldier-39th battalion of territorial defense "Dnepr-2". Senior shooter Alexander Samosadov killed by sniper bullets of terrorists.

On this day, the men tried to get out of the unit circle.Risking their lives, cousins unit tracked down dead body of his friend and was taken home.At the celebration came to family, friends and colleagues of the deceased soldier. Children Sumy schools put on the grave of Hero of flowers.

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At the Training Centre of highly mobile airborne troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Zhytomyr region, led by Chief of General Staff - Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Colonel-General Viktor Muzhenko passed instructional and methodological lessons on developing a unified methodology in organizing military training of military personnel, called up for mobilization.

The event was attended by management staff of the General Staff, highly mobile airborne troops combat training Commands, Operational Commands, Training Centers.During the sessions participants in 16 training places acquainted with the way in which military training carried mobilized soldiers who joined the ranks highly mobile airborne troops. In particular, observed the planned defense employment training specialists who performed the latest exercise impression on ground and air targets, actions and conduct fire department with the support of the tank.

Calculations of heavy automatic grenade launchers practiced driving zoseredzhuvalnoho fire and "fan" military anti-tank guided launches performed by means of distant and near borders, in armored purposes.

 

[Hindustani78]

Five Ukrainian soldiers wounded in Donbas in last day : UNIAN news
No Ukrainian soldiers were killed but five were wounded in the Donbas conflict zone over the last 24 hours, presidential administration spokesman for the Anti-Terrorist Operation Colonel Andriy Lysenko said at a briefing in Kyiv on Monday, according to an UNIAN correspondent.

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"Over the last day, we haven’t lost any Ukrainian soldiers, but five were injured as a result of military clashes," he said.

As UNIAN reported earlier, on August 29, no Ukrainian soldiers were killed but one was wounded in the Donbas conflict zone.
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157 Ukrainians in militant captivity - Gerashchenko : UNIAN news

Among the captives there are about a hundred troops and security forces officials, while the rest are civilians, according to a Facebook post by Iryna Gerashchenko, MP, the President’s envoy for peaceful settlement of conflict in Donetsk and Luhansk regions, citing the updated information from the Security Service of Ukraine.

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In addition, she said, as of August 31, 2,903 Ukrainians were released from captivity. "In particular, 1,057 troops from the Ukrainian Army, 64 fighters from volunteer battalions, 101 police officers, 261 troops from the National Guard and about 1,400 civilians," wrote Iryna Gerashchenko.

There are 814 MIAs, according to the SBU information, said Gerashchenko.

As UNIAN reported earlier, a 12 on 12 swap took place on August 27 when Ukrainian captives were exchanged for militants earlier detained by Ukrainian authorities.

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Russian proxies attack ATO forces 19 times overnight : UNIAN news

The combined Russian-separatist forces attacked Ukrainian army positions in eastern Ukraine 19 times overnight, the press center of the Anti-Terrorist Operation (ATO) wrote on Facebook on Tuesday.

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"The situation was rather stable during the day. The Russian mercenaries significantly reduced their activity and fired mostly small arms on ATO forces. In the area of the militant-controlled city of Donetsk, from 18:00 to midnight on September 1, the militants were firing small arms on our fortified positions in the towns of Maryinka and Avdiyivka, as well as the village of Opytne. At about 19:00 Kyiv time and 23:00 Kyiv time, the occupiers started firing a grenade launcher to the south of Avdiyivka," the report says.

In the direction of Artemivsk, at 20:30 Kyiv time, the militants started firing small arms on Ukrainian units in the village of Sanzharivka. At 22:00 Kyiv time, they engaged a heavy machine gun on ATO forces near the village of Lozove.

In Luhansk region, around midnight, the enemy pursued firing small arms on our positions in the village of Krymske from the village of Sokilnyky.

"From midnight to 06:00 on September 1, the Kremlin-backed mercenaries were not using weapons along the demarcation line," the press center said.

 

[gau8av]

@Hindustani78 in ultra-propagandist mode, they give you a raise or something ?

 

[soldier of Putin]

2,540 soldiers killed as of August 14

 

[vostok]

August 31, 2015.
The separatists terrorists Novorossia

Democrats Europeans Ukraine.

Do not confuse!

 

[Hindustani78]

@Hindustani78 in ultra-propagandist mode, they give you a raise or something ?

Where you see PR here ? People are really dieing and war is visible everywhere.

Sea Breeze 2015 opens in Odessa, high officials present | Міністерство оборони України
Tuesday, Sept. 1, ODESA – Multinational Maritime Exercise Sea Breeze 2015 co-hosted by the U.S. and Ukraine officially opened in Odesa.

Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatseniuk, Defense Minister Colonel General Stepan Poltorak, U.S. Ambassador in Kyiv Geoffrey Pyatt and other high officials visited the opening ceremony.

According to the Prime Minister, NATO trust funds facilitated the Ukrainian Armed Forces in setting up new logistics, reconnaissance and training systems, helping the Ukrainian military adhere to NATO standards.

U.S. Ambassador in Kyiv Geoffrey Pyatt stressed the strategic importance of the Sea Breeze 2015 exercise for the whole Black Sea Region.

Sea Breeze 2015, taking place in Odesa, Mykolaiv and the Black Sea, involves eleven nations: Bulgaria, Germany, Greece, Italy, Moldova, Romania, Sweden, Turkey, Ukraine, the U.S. and the United Kingdom.

Sea Breeze 2015 is due to end on Sept. 12. It is the 14th iteration of the annual exercise.

Press ATU Staff reports: ATU in the area at the end of yesterday's day almost completely kept silence mode. With 18 hours to the north once the militants opened fire on positions of chaotic Ukrainian troops. Thus, about 23 hours, our stronghold in Crimea near the village that in the Luhansk region, the criminals opened fire with small arms.Generally during September 1 illegal armed groups is 5 times violated the truce.

Today - September 2 - from midnight to 6 am and 1 case recorded use enemy weapons. At half past 1 am on the part of the settlement frog on our positions in the questionnaire criminals beat with grenade launcher.In general, the night of 1 to 2 September along the entire boundary line went quiet.

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Militants attack Ukrainian positions five times overnight| Ukrinform
KYIV, September 2 /Ukrinform/. Ukrainian army positions came under five attacks in Donbas overnight.

The press center of the Anti-Terrorist Operation (ATO) wrote on Facebook on Wednesday.

"From 18:00 to midnight, the militants opened chaotic fire once on the positions of Ukrainian troops. At about 23:00 Kyiv time, the mercenaries started firing small arms on our fortified position near the village of Krymske in Luhansk region," the report says.

"From midnight to 06:00 Kyiv time on September 2, the Russian proxies were using weapons once on ATO forces. At 00:30, they used a grenade launcher against our positions in the village of Opytne from the village of Zhabiache," the press center said.

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Two volunteers shot dead, four soldiers wounded outside of Shchastia| Ukrinform

KYIV, September 2/ Ukrinform/. A mobile group of volunteers working in the Luhansk region was attacked outside of the town of Shchastia, two persons were shot dead.

Volunteer Rodion Shovkoshytny has reported on his Facebook.

"We have casualties. The combined group that worked outside Shchastia," he wrote.

Also, Shovkoshytny quotes a message he received: "Once again our group was fired in the areas controlled by the Luhansk detachment. The military group had no border patrol guards. We went into an ambush, and, apparently, they wanted to capture us. First, they threw two grenades at us, then fired small arms. Our men defended until the reinforcements arrived. In the course of the gunfight one volunteer and one tax office employee were shot dead, one SBU soldier and 3 paratroopers were wounded."

This information was also confirmed the head of the Luhansk regional military-civilian administration Heorhii Tuka on Facebook.

In commentaries to these reports, the view has been expressed that the volunteers and law enforcement officers have been shot at because of their actions countering smuggling in the Luhansk regions.

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One serviceman wounded in ATO area in past 24 hours| Ukrinform

KYIV, September 2 /Ukrinform/. No Ukrainian servicemen were killed, one soldier was wounded in ATO area in past 24 hours.

Spokesman for the Presidential Administration on ATO, Colonel Andriy Lysenko said this at a briefing, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.

"Fortunately, there were no casualties among the Ukrainian servicemen for past 24 hours. One of our soldiers was wounded," Lysenko said.

 

[soldier of Putin]

@Hindustani78 in ultra-propagandist mode, they give you a raise or something ?

@Hindustani78 is spamming this thread with garbage.

 

[Hindustani78]

@Hindustani78 is spamming this thread with garbage.

Real events seems you PR ?

 

[gau8av]

Real events seems you PR ?

you're just spamming Ukie coup government propaganda 24/7 "hurr, evil russian terrorists"

 

[Hindustani78]

you're just spamming Ukie coup government propaganda 24/7 "hurr, evil russian terrorists"

I am not saying that Russians are evil terrorists but the policy adopted by Russians in Eastern Europe is like of big war.

 

[soldier of Putin]

I am not saying that Russians are evil terrorists but the policy adopted by Russians in Eastern Europe is like of big war.

It's not a war when it's an anti terror operation ATO.

 

[gau8av]

I am not saying that Russians are evil terrorists but the policy adopted by Russians in Eastern Europe is like of big war.

bro, the country where you're in is notoriously paranoid wrt Russia:

Lithuanian Pres Gets Punk’d After Declaring Russia a ‘Terrorist State’ | Observer

Lithuania 'already under attack' - President Grybauskaite - BBC News

Lithuania Thinks the Russians Are Coming — and It's Preparing with Wargames | VICE News

imo it's sheer madness to think Russia would start a war of aggression with a NATO state, which literally means WW3

the situation in Ukraine is not so black and white as the propaganda from mil.gov.ua that you keep spamming seems to suggest, the US' role in the coup can not be ignored.

I think pro US/west people in Ukraine probably have some legitimate reasons to dislike the role Russia has played but they were 1 people till barely 25 years ago, all this breaking statues, desecrating monuments, writing revisionist history, nazis, or nazi inspired ultra nationalist militias and the support they apparently have from lots of people.. all this is real but western media largely ignores it apart from a few articles here and there, but what's worse is their policy makers turning a blind eye to it.

Russian support for the breakaway provinces is legit, the post coupvolution Ukie government started it when they decided to bomb their own people, this "ATO" was launched literally the next day after John Brennan visited kiev and met with their hand picked "leadership"

April 14th, 2014 John Brennan in Ukraine
April 15th, 2014 Kiev launches anti-terror operation in the east

in a twisted way, I think what's happening here has some parallels to our own history in the subcontinent, like how they mostly completely erased most of our heritage, have a fascist constitution, revisionist history and hate taught to schoolkids, claiming they are a different superior race, minorities all but vanished, and brainwashed radicals are heroes to many (just as long as they go after the 'correct' enemy) etc

this is also an example for all nations to see how the US abuses NGOs to first penetrate sovereign governments, and then later uses them as a tool to exploit the fault-lines in that society to create chaos.

their most recent example apart from Ukraine are the selective "arab springs" in the ME, some spring eh.. have a look at them shia-sunni flowers bloom

Wikileaks: OU insider Poroshenko




lastly, I'm no "leftist conspiracy nut", I oppose the economic model of communism here in India but the Ukraine facts are there for anyone to see.

 

[vostok]

If Russia were at least 1% so dark and evil as it portrays by Western propaganda, the Russian tanks would stand for a long time in every capital city of Eastern Europe, and in the East Berlin, too.
And no one, I repeat - no one could stop her, neither America nor the Devil himself.

 

[gau8av]

If Russia were at least 1% so dark and evil as it portrays by Western propaganda, the Russian tanks would stand for a long time in every capital city of Eastern Europe, and in the East Berlin, too.
And no one, I repeat - no one could stop her, neither America nor the Devil himself.

so true, I think Merkel is well aware of it too, Germany - Russia are natural partners in the post great and cold war world order we have today.

Greece and some others within the EU are also not buying the bullshit coming from the US, barely a mention in international media lately though fighting has apparently picked up again in some areas, the rest in Europe also hate that they have a war on their eastern border, you think there might be some sort of reconciliation possible once there is a new POTUS in 2017 or has too much blood already been spilled for it to ever go back to normal again ?

@vostok

 

[vostok]

so true, I think Merkel is well aware of it too, Germany - Russia are natural partners in the post great and cold war world order we have today.

Greece and some others within the EU are also not buying the bullshit coming from the US, barely a mention in international media lately though fighting has apparently picked up again in some areas, the rest in Europe also hate that they have a war on their eastern border, you think there might be some sort of reconciliation possible once there is a new POTUS in 2017 or has too much blood already been spilled for it to ever go back to normal again ?

@vostok

Crimea and Donbas are lost for Ukraine forever. However, the rest of the historical New Russia can remain a part of Ukraine if the authorities give us autonomy and return the Russian language the official status. I do not know why the junta do not accept these demands. The world is full of federal states, which use two or more official languages.