Christianity Growing at an Alarming Rate in China!

[Peacefull]

Report on Evangelical Christianity in China

Hopefully China won't be another South Korea.

Whats wrong with christinity ? religion is one's belief should be respected.........

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Report on Evangelical Christianity in China

Hopefully China won't be another South Korea.

i hope so too, but Bo Xilai's campaign was crushed, so there's no alternative to Christianity.

Funny, these CPC guys. They don't want people to be worship to them, instead, they want people to be free to worship the white man's god.

I wonder what some of the converts would feel if they knew Jesus was not a blond hair blue eyed white guy, but rather a dark skinned Semitic?

 

[Joe Shearer]

No another 'We ruled you for xxxx years' crap.

These statements are usually made by losers who need some prop for their feelings of inadequacy.

 

[shuntmaster]

Theoretically, China has no catholics. Vatican has never admitted China branch.
Muslims, Christians, Buddists...no matter what religion are treated equally in China. They can proceed their religious activities including preach in their church/mosque/temple. But not in public. They can also elect their representatives to attend the congress to vote for national policies every 4 years.
The majority of Chinese are still atheist or agnostic, due to the influence of Confucius.

'Catholics' just doesnt mean 'Roman Catholics' with alligence to the pope in Vatican. There are Catholics who may not be allied to Vatican and can be from eastern orthodox churches. I know at least 2 big catholic cathedrals within 500meters from Tian'an'men square and their Sunday services are always full.

 

[shuntmaster]

The Neo-Confucianism can be considered as a detailed explaination of original Confucius. Just as original Confuciusism, You can treat it as a philosophy but not a religion. You study it instead of believing in it...And it is quite popular for Chinese to read those books.
About Buddhism. People are free to believe in it. But note that Buddhism in China is a hermit-style religion. They tend to dwell in old temples deep in mountains. That is perhaps you don't see the monks very often. (well, except for Shaolin...)

There is no restriction of these religions you mentioned.

Isn't Confucianism a system of administration and education and not a religion in the lines of Taoism or Buddhism?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Well, your post and your "location" tell me exactly the ignorant mind you have, but i'll say this: we don't need to issue "fatwas" or whatever crap to anyone, unless they first do or say something against Muslims (eg. Salman Rushdie).
Also no fatwas a needed anyway, anyone that is not a muslim is "infidel", "non-believer". But it doesn't mean they should be killed.
Also, do remember if Muslims we're as half as crazy as you claim we are then India wouldn't exist today. We ruled you for well over 500-600 years, and had grand chances to kill you or convert you.

Not that the bigots in your community didn't try their best, in the areas where they got support from the ruler. Fortunately, not all rulers were stupid, and, even more fortunately, in general, the Muslim community lived in peace with its neighbours in an eclectic, hybrid culture.

It is this culture that all the fundamentalists hate and attack, whichever side they come from.

 

[notsuperstitious]

One emperor, Akbar, out of like several was a Non-Muslim, and what exactly is this supposed to prove?

A few incidents bound to happen, but when did the Mughals have a crackdown on converting or killing every non-Muslim in the empire? Never.
But if they willed they were more than capable of doing so.
Hence my first point, we're not as barbaric or evil as you make us out to be.

And which part of what I said is a lie? We haven't ruled you? Keep on denying history

No there were not, although they did try and did succeed partially. I also gave reference of Guru Tegh Bahadur who gave up his life opposing Aurangzeb's policy of forceful conversion. It was not as easy as you make it sound. These people depended on Hindu generals. If they wanted peace and wanted to rule they had to be tolerant. Hence when Aurangzeb during his process of ''islamisation'' under sirhindi's able guidance brougt back jaziya - he also faced the maximum revolts any muslim ruler faced and it lead to the end of mughal rule. These are historical facts you can check if you read without bias.

So that statement of yours is a lie and has unfortunately lead to this off topic discussion.

And NO pakistanis have not ruled us for god's sake. Pakistanis can't rule part of pakistan even today, keep denying history and the present.

 

[Joe Shearer]

But if left unchecked they can become a major political force like in my place and I hate it as religious leaders should only care about religious things, not determine how Govt should run things.

This is a bit difficult - perhaps more than a bit difficult - to understand. No religion in India tries to tell any Government how to run things, except extremist fringe elements with fascist tendencies.

This thread is about the unsuspected popularity of Christianity in China. Can we stick to this please?

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

i hope so too, but Bo Xilai's campaign was crushed, so there's no alternative to Christianity.

Funny, these CPC guys. They don't want people to be worship to them, instead, they want people to be free to worship the white man's god.

I wonder what some of the converts would feel if they knew Jesus was not a blond hair blue eyed white guy, but rather a dark skinned Semitic?

CCP itself worships white people's philosophy. The so-called communism is also west product. Pls dont forget about this.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Considering the trouble we are having today, it would not be a bad idea to pick out the Brahmins (or may be we should call them vermins) and exile them to some island like Sri Lanka, when Muslims had the power to do it. South Asia would be a lot more peaceful today without these people I think.

How interesting!

This is exactly what the Hindu bigots say about Muslims.

Maybe we should take the bigots from both sides and put them on the same island. Whatever happens, the world comes out a winner.

Is your passport ready?

 

[Joe Shearer]

'Catholics' just doesnt mean 'Roman Catholics' with alligence to the pope in Vatican. There are Catholics who may not be allied to Vatican and can be from eastern orthodox churches. I know at least 2 big catholic cathedrals within 500meters from Tian'an'men square and their Sunday services are always full.

Technically they are Orthodox - Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, or similar, including Coptic Christians and Syrian Christians - and not Catholic. Currently, Catholic generally refers to the Roman Catholic; no other sect claims that name. I may be wrong, in that there are some small sects in west Asia that still use the name Catholic with some other identifier, but to my knowledge, they are affiliated to the Roman Catholic Church and acknowledge the Pope as the supreme Pontiff.

You may be referring to the irregular 'Chinese' Catholics. Since the PRC and the Vatican have no agreement on the Pope's right to appoint priests, bishops and cardinals in China, apparently there is a self-perpetuating clerical structure that has PRC approval but not Rome's. People of those congregations are Catholic in one sense, but do not strictly belong to the Roman Catholic Church.

Please note that I am saying this from memory, and might very well be wrong.

 

[Raphael]

Very troubling development. If it turns out to be anything like Korea, full of nutjob proselytizers...

Students Launch Atheist Clubs to Counter Rising Christianity - koreaBANG

 

[TruthSeeker]

infact all religions are evil, every single one of them.

christianity is the most evil religion of them all.

It is pretty laughable that you use the word "evil" in denouncing all religions. If you believe in no religion, then where does your personal concept of "evil" derive its substance?

 

[TruthSeeker]

Funny, these CPC guys. They don't want people to be worship to them, instead, they want people to be free to worship the white man's god.

I wonder what some of the converts would feel if they knew Jesus was not a blond hair blue eyed white guy, but rather a dark skinned Semitic?

Our dependably Chinese racist is in the house. He sees everything through yellow-tinted glasses. Pity.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Evangelicals tend to be the worst of all the christian groups they target the poor or uneducated or those who don't know to much Examples can be shown in Africa, India, China. Christianity fine however get rid of the evangelical groups and the underground church. Education & Science is needed.