Chinese Type-054A Frigate compared

[Aamir Hussain]

Beautiful boats. Pakistan has a lot of experience in running Brit platforms. But do we have the money???

 

[Aamir Hussain]

I think one of the issues that China and Pakistan might face when thrashing out the Type 054A deal would be the sensor suit. A lot of things including some of the Radars are supplied by Russia.

 

[bc040400065]

As a result of the Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR), the UK will be discommission four Type 22 Batch 3 frigates between January and April 2011. They might make a nice option for PN to acquire. Other potential takers - if any - are most likely South American navies e.g. Brazil, Chile. Additionally, maybe Eastern European countries e.g. bulgaria or Rumania (has two earlier batch ships already).

5,300 tons fld
148.1 m x 14.8 m x 6.4 m
COGOG:
2 Rolls-Royce Spey SM1A boost gas turbines (37,540 shp / 28 MW)
2 Rolls-Royce Tyne RM3C cruise gas turbines (9,700 shp/ 7.2 MW)
Speed: 30 knots (56 km/h (full)) 18 knots (33.3 km/h (cruise))
crew: 250

commissioned 4/1988 - 5/1990 (21-23 years old)
average annual operating costs: 11-13 million pounds sterling

4.5"gun
Goalkeeper 30mm ciws
2 × 20 mm GAM-BO1 guns
2x4 Harpoon
2x sixtuple launcher for Sea Wolf
2x triple torpedo tubes for lightweight ASW torpedoes
1x EH 101 or 2 Sea Lynx

IF you have any info about how much they cost? Please do share more info about it.
PN should go for these rather then spending money on OHP.

 

[Archie]

IF you have any info about how much they cost? Please do share more info about it.
PN should go for these rather then spending money on OHP.

I agree completely , if the ship cost anything less than that 120 Million USD , then pakistan should acquire all for of them , u can also ask for 4 Lynx Helicopters in a packaged deal worth 500 Million USD for 4 ships and 4 helicopters

This would be a great addition to PN fleet and would be delivered by 2012 , so then U guys can retire ur 34 - 37 yr old Type 21 frigates with a 23 yr old type 22 frigates rather than replacing them with equally old OHP class frigates

If u look at the size then these frigates are larger than Rajput class destroyers of IN and Luda class Destroyers of PLAN

 

[TaimiKhan]

I think one of the issues that China and Pakistan might face when thrashing out the Type 054A deal would be the sensor suit. A lot of things including some of the Radars are supplied by Russia.

Nops, Type-054 had Russian stuff in it, the Type-054A is fully laden with Chinese made stuff, from weapons to sensors, including radars.

 

[ANG]

Dear All, I am still hesitant about the PN buying surface ships. These ships will not stand a chance against a bunch of Su-30MKIs launching a volley of Brahmos missiles. The PN should invest in subs, and strike planes tipped with nukes. That is the only way they can keep the IN at bay. These ships, Type 22 and/or Type 054A, will be sunk in the early onset of any hostilities. Take care.

 

[Donatello]

I think one of the issues that China and Pakistan might face when thrashing out the Type 054A deal would be the sensor suit. A lot of things including some of the Radars are supplied by Russia.

That shouldn't be a problem.

We had the same issue with RD93s on JF-17s. Remember how we were able to iron that issue out?

That's the job of diplomats.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Hi,

So, if and when pakistan get the 054--what is it facing? Thanks.

Ships of the Indian Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I just noticed a lot of the warships are indigenously made. Indian Navy is on a roll.

 

[Srinivas]

Nice comparison mate keep up your good work

 

[truthseeker2010]

The average cost of a Type 22 is £150 million, on the current exchange rate that makes around 242 million dollars a ship. so for 4 ships you are talking a billion dollars(with helos).
Type 054A will also cost the same but in the same amount you can get 3 OHPs.
Technically Type 22 has more firepower than Type 054A's since they are bigger vessels. But the 054s has chinese advantage(financing...) but Type 22 will be more easily accommodated in PN fleet since our crew have years of experience in operating the older 21's whereas we are newer to chinese ships.
Personally I feel that we should go for Type 054A because it has all the latest technology, STEALTHY DESIGN, good firepower and of course if some issue arises chinese would always be there. Type 22 is all 80's technology with no stealth.

 

[ANG]

Hi, I would agree with Mr. Truthseeker2010. I have already expressed my disdain for a surface fleet. However, if the PN was to buy new frigates, I would opt for the Type 054A. It also has longer ranged SAMs, and would come with TOT. Moreover, China would give Pakistan soft financial terms, and given Pakistan's fianances, it would be her only choice as she is broke. I do not trust OHP frigates as they are sanction prone.Take care.

 

[Donatello]

The average cost of a Type 22 is £150 million, on the current exchange rate that makes around 242 million dollars a ship. so for 4 ships you are talking a billion dollars(with helos).
Type 054A will also cost the same but in the same amount you can get 3 OHPs.
Technically Type 22 has more firepower than Type 054A's since they are bigger vessels. But the 054s has chinese advantage(financing...) but Type 22 will be more easily accommodated in PN fleet since our crew have years of experience in operating the older 21's whereas we are newer to chinese ships.
Personally I feel that we should go for Type 054A because it has all the latest technology, STEALTHY DESIGN, good firepower and of course if some issue arises chinese would always be there. Type 22 is all 80's technology with no stealth.

150 million pounds is too much for such old ships.

Pakistan can easily get its own frigate/destroyer designed in China, with its own specs in that amount.

I think PN is looking to spend 1 billion $ max on 4 new frigates.

My bet would be on the Type054A. They are a formidable class of ships.

 

[Penguin]

Dear All, I am still hesitant about the PN buying surface ships. These ships will not stand a chance against a bunch of Su-30MKIs launching a volley of Brahmos missiles. The PN should invest in subs, and strike planes tipped with nukes. That is the only way they can keep the IN at bay. These ships, Type 22 and/or Type 054A, will be sunk in the early onset of any hostilities. Take care.

Yes, and even though tanks will not stand a chance against a bunch of attack helicopters launching a volley of long range (8-10km) ATGWs (like HELLFIRE), we don't see nations eliminating the tank from their force structures.

 

[Penguin]

150 million pounds is too much for such old ships.

Pakistan can easily get its own frigate/destroyer designed in China, with its own specs in that amount.

I think PN is looking to spend 1 billion $ max on 4 new frigates.

My bet would be on the Type054A. They are a formidable class of ships.

UK sold Chile 3 Type 23 frigates (even newer than Type 22 batch 3) in 2005 for a sum total of £134 million.

Type 23 frigate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jun/29/military.davidleigh

 

[ANG]

Hi, fine all you surface fleet lovers, enjoy the animation video. Take care.

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