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Chinese Huawei launches India's first 4G smartphone

No doubt- good points made, solid argument. But images are forged over decades and generations so it is a matter of time.

And yes those cowboys who cut every corner imaginable need to be taken out because if you continuously hear stories of lead pant on toys or sub-standard tech and the like then all the work of be "good guys" who make the quality products is going to be undone.

Take it or leave it!

Let the mass market decide! We have been enjoying THE manufacturing place of choice for many decades despite the bigoted stereotypes!
 
The consumers have the evaluate themselves. It is not always the suppliers to be blamed. Sub-standard goods will be knocked out of their positions by the invisible hands over time! This theory applies everywhere!

Our economies are getting better year by year. Sooner or later, more people in China will start to swift away from those knockoffs to the real products. Then it'll be gameover for those knockoff companies, can't wait for that to come :victory:

Yup, I know I'm selfish :hitwall:
 
Our economies are getting better year by year. Sooner or later, more people in China will start to swift away from those knockoffs to the real products. Then it'll be gameover for those knockoff companies, can't wait for that to come :victory:

Yup, I know I'm selfish :hitwall:

no worries Bro!

Yeah, in the midst of all these cacophany of hate, embargoes, restrictions, political prejudice, our Brands can still brave the tides!

Quality speaks for itself!
 
I bought two Xiaomi 1, one for my wife(2011.12) another for the brother(2012.7) of my wife, now I use one OPPO(2009.10), wonderful and Reliably, should buy one made by brand, no matter what's the brand, they are ok; If you buy fake such as "Nohia, lphone 5", they may made by Hand Workshop, never buy
 
insecure kids these chinese are.. the thread title is a total lie !!
 
India lifted the ban for Huawei a month after banning them. Huawei invited India to audit the company which India did, and found nothing.

So yea, it's either India's officials are stupid or corrupted.

India lifts ban on Chinese telecom vendors



What so you audit the company for one month? I don;t think they have a clue as to how this works. You can embed software later on. You could put malicious code and then activate when there is a need.
I guess the entire Western world is dumber than China, right?
 
What so you audit the company for one month? I don;t think they have a clue as to how this works. You can embed software later on. You could put malicious code and then activate when there is a need.
I guess the entire Western world is dumber than China, right?

You should tell that to the Indian companies who made Huawei the #1 telecom gears supplier in India.
 
And here I thought it was supposed to be ZTE :azn:

zte has a good landing in india I think!

I have posted in on a thread on zte but as this thread also relates to telecomm and the indian market, I would like to post this once more:

Voice & Data ( ICT Business Awards 2012 ) Recognizes ZTE as Top Most Broadband Infrastructure Company 2012-10-19

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19 October 2012, New Delhi, India – ZTE Corporation (“ZTE”) (H share stock code: 0763.HK / A share stock code: 000063.SZ), a publicly-listed global provider of telecommunications equipment and network solutions has been ranked India’s Topmost Broadband Infrastructure Co. for the year 2011-2012 as per the Voice & Data 100 survey 2012 ( Cyber Media ). The award was given by Shri. R. Chandrashekhar, Chairman Telecom Commission & Secretary Department of Telecommunication .The award recognizes ZTE’s efficiency in strategizing and implementing cost effective broadband infrastructure and it’s contribution to the economic growth in India.

ZTE gained 71% of the market share in the Next Generation Network (NGN) and today is amongst the preferred NGN vendor in India for major carriers like BSNL, Uninor, MTNL, Tata Teleservices, and Aircel. ZTE’s strategic partnership with India’s leading integrated telecom service provider, Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL) has been a significant contributor to this ranking. ZTE is also a leader in developing LTE technologies and has bagged a contract with India’s largest operator Bharti Airtel to plan, design, supply and deploy India’s first 4G network in Kolkata.

ZTE spends 10% of its annual revenue in its 18 R&D centers spread across the globe hence generating continuous innovative technology to its line of business. Strengthened by innovation ZTE was ranked no.1 globally in international patent applications in 2011

On receiving the award, Cui Liangjun, CEO, ZTE India said “We are honored to receive this prestigious award that demonstrates ZTE’s outstanding achievements in the telecom sector. The telecom industry in India has transformed over the last 10 years which has witnessed phenomenal changes and ZTE is proud to be a part of the evolution and also adding value to the ecosystem with its expertise”. 

Voice & Data ( ICT Business Awards 2012 ) Awards is India's most credible and eagerly awaited awards, showcasing the most outstanding achievements for the telecom sector. It recognizes top companies for demonstrating excellence and achievement in the Indian communication industry and provides industry rankings, vital information, statistics and analyses on business, technology and regulatory aspects of the telecom and networking industry. CyberMedia launched Voice&Data in 1994 aiming at catalyzing the growth of communications industry.
 
Any Xiaomi fans here?

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China’s Xiaomi targets students with $200 Mi-One S Youth Edition handset

17th October 2012 by Josh Ong

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Xiaomi, China’s underdog smartphone maker, has begun teasing the October 23 release of the “Youth Edition” of its Mi-One S smartphone, which will be priced at RMB 1,299 ($208).

Although Xiaomi has announced the price and the release date for the phone, it is holding back some of the specs and is even running a contest for fans to guess the final numbers. Polls currently have a 1.5GHz dual-core processor, 1GB of RAM, 2MP front camera and an 8MP rear camera in the lead, though all those specs are the top choices, so that may just be wishful thinking.

The company plans to release to sell a batch of 450,000 Mi-One S Youth Edition smartphones on October 23 at noon, as well as 50,000 Mi-One S standard edition units. Pre-orders of the device have already begun. Previous batches of the Mi-One S have sold out in minutes while leaving hundreds of thousands of pre-orders on backlog.

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The Mi-One S was announced alongside the company’s second-generation handset, the Mi-Two, at an event in August. The first-generation Mi-One topped sales of 3.5 million. A limited release of the Mi-Two went out to fans for testing in late September, and the device is scheduled to arrive before the end of this month.

Xiaomi introduced the Youth Edition of the original Mi-One last year in order to target students in China. Last year’s version cost RMB 1,499 ($240) and featured a 4-inch display, 8-megapixel camera, 1.2GHz dual-core CPU and 768MB of RAM.

Also worth noting is a recent meeting between Xiaomi CEO Lei Jun and Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg. Lei is in California this week for the Global Mobile Internet Conference in Silicon Valley. A photo of the two was posted to Xiaomi’s official Twitter account on Tuesday.

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In a recent interview with Tech in Asia, Lei revealed that Xiaomi’s three pillars are: “E-commerce, the openness of the Android platform and Xiaomi’s own MIUI skin, and Xiaomi’s fans“. He also said the company doesn’t plan to IPO in the next few years. Xiaomi raised over $200 million with a $4 billion valuation earlier this year.

China's Xiaomi Teases $200 Mi-One S Youth Edition Handset
 
Analysis: China's telecom patent boom heralds innovation era


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China's telecom giants are building up a war-chest of patents to help give them an edge in the legal battles raging between the world's smartphone makers, aided by Beijing's push to transform the country from workshop to innovator.

Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and ZTE Corp, China's top two telecommunications equipment makers, are stealing a march on rivals both in traditional network gear and, increasingly, high-end phones.

ZTE was the second highest filer of international patent applications in the world last year according to the World Intellectual Property Organization, making 1,863 different filings. Huawei was the fourth most active filer with 1,528 applications, having been in the top spot in 2009.

Patent filings are soaring across most sectors in China -- last year there were 313,854 patents registered in the country according to the Thomson Reuters Derwent World Patents Index, a 12 percent rise from 2009.

China was the third highest filer of patents in 2010, just behind the U.S., which registered 326,945 and Japan with 337,497. Japan has been the leading patent filer in the world for the past decade but its lead is narrowing, with its filings volume down 12 percent since 2006. China is up 83 percent.

The China telecom space in particular is seeing a lot of action as the likes of ZTE and Huawei, along with Taiwan's HTC move from being contract manufacturers for big foreign firms to making smart phones and tablets under their own brands.

"A lot of know-how flows through the contract manufacturer. The next logical step for these contract manufacturers is to climb up the value chain," said Elliot Papageorgiou a partner at intellectual property law firm Rouse in Shanghai.

And as they move up the value chain, they use patents to protect some of the knowledge and ideas they've picked up as contract manufacturers in order to give them room to manoeuvre in the increasingly competitive market.

"The more this market matures the more you are searching for the margins and China is now probably the biggest mobile phone market in the world," said Papageorgiou.

IP LAWYERS IN DEMAND

The flow of China filings means big business for patent lawyers in a country where trying to enforce intellectual property (IP) rights was seen by many companies as a largely pointless exercise until recently.

"In the last year and especially this year, demand for IP work is growing very fast," said Anthony Chen, a patent lawyer for Jones Day in Shanghai.

Douglas Clark, a barrister specialising in intellectual property cases who has worked in China since 1993 says the size of the industry has surged in recent years.

"The last 10 years have seen a huge growth in the number of IP lawyers employed in firms and in-house," he said.

"At the very top level for partners there's very strong competition for talent and strong salaries."

He estimates an IP partner in an international law firm in China can now expect to earn around $1 million to $2 million depending on how well their firm does that year. Partners in some Chinese firms are likely to earn even more.

COURTROOM BATTLES

The surge in the size of patent portfolios is causing a corresponding rise in litigation.

ZTE filed a lawsuit in China in April saying Huawei infringed on its fourth generation technology. The move came a day after Huawei sued ZTE in several European countries saying its rival had infringed on a series of its patents.

"Huawei and ZTE have sued each other in Europe and now are taking action in China because they both made good progress in selling their mobile communication products and now they're using patents as a competition tool," said Jones Day's Chen.

These lawsuits are hardly surprising given that their foreign counterparts such as Apple, Google and Samsung are all trying to use an armory of patents to stifle competition in the global smartphone industry.

Google Inc's biggest deal ever, the agreement to buy Motorola Mobility Holdings Inc this month for $12.5 billion, is an attempt to buy insurance against increasingly aggressive legal attacks from rivals such as Apple Inc.

So far though the likes of Apple and Samsung have stayed out of legal battles in China, wary of finding themselves at the wrong-end of a court order in a country they rely on for their manufacturing.

But for Chinese firms being sued in Europe or the United States, many are now using their home turf for retaliation.

ZTE has filed a patent infringement lawsuit against Ericsson's China unit after the Swedish telecoms giant filed patent lawsuits against ZTE in Britain, Italy and Germany.

"I expect more and more Chinese firms that may have 'lost face' by finding themselves as losing defendants in foreign jurisdictions to strengthen their position in China and take retaliatory action," said Rouse's Papageorgiou.

CHINA'S INNOVATION PUSH

The influx of patents not only underscores China's growing strength in the telecom sector, it also reveals a change afoot in the country's attitude toward intellectual property.

While the change is hardly air-tight, China is moving more toward recognising ideas and their origins, rather than copying and proliferating.

Intellectual property civil litigation cases filed in China rose by 37 percent to 41,718 last year according to the country's Supreme People's Court.

This is driven in part by China's plan to become a high-tech power house, with a target for 2.5 percent of its gross domestic product to come from research and development by 2020. It's trying to reach this goal by subsidising the cost of patents for Chinese companies and stricter enforcement of intellectual property rights.

"While traditionally in China you are supposed to share knowledge, the government is also aware that if you don't protect IP rights you don't attract investors and the nation can't develop the high-tech industries it wants," said Isabella Liu, a partner at Baker & McKenzie in Hong Kong.
 
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