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Of course they are Chinese today. Who said anything else? Their Arab ancestors arrived to China 700 years ago. But their paternal line is still that of Arabs. They are conscious of their origin, their forefathers religion, culture, language etc. As you see some of them even are practicing Muslims and one of the Ding's in that clip even spoke fluent Arabic and taught the language to other Ding's.
As an Arab I find that really fascinating.
I have never heard about any Arab that has a problem with China. In fact many of us would prefer a even stronger cooperation with China, I at least.
Why do you think that they would not be comfortable with living in the Middle East? The Arab world is very cosmopolitan. The teacher of Arabic in that clip obviously did not have a problem since he stayed, probably in KSA (since the documentary mentioned that he studied at the holiest of cities in Arabia) for 6 years.
The majority of Muslims in China today are the Hui people who from my knowledge are Han Chinese - just Muslim ones, some Kazakhs and a small group of Tajiks in Xinjiang and then the Uyghur people who are of Turkic/Mongolian stock.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Thank you very much. That sounds very interesting. People that claim to be or are Sadah (plural of a Sayyid) are descendants of Prophet Muhammad (saws).
Do you know when the Pu family arrived to China? Was it during the Song dynasty? Thank you.
"Ruxiang or xunluxiang comes from the three Dashi countries of Murbat (Maloba), Shihr (Shihe), and Dhofar (Nufa), from the depths of the remotest mountains.[35] The tree which yields this drug may generally be compared to the pine tree. Its trunk is notched with a hatchet, upon which the resin flows out, and, when hardened, turns into incense, which is gathered and made into lumps. It is transported on elephants to the Dashi (on the coast), who then load it upon their ships to exchange it for other commodities in Sanfoqi. This is the reason why it is commonly collected at and known as a product of Sanfoqi."[36]
Oh, my friend FaujHistorian KSA is full of mountains. Basically the whole South, Hejaz and even Najd which itself is a word for "highland" in Arabic.
If you read the links then the ancient Arab-Chinese relations, the really ancient ones that predate Islam with many decades, took place in Southern Arabia, more precise Yemen and Oman which are largely mountainous countries, especially Yemen. It was in connection with the Frankincense trade. Although the trade obviously happened through the sea.
You must be confusing the description with the Easter Province, Kuwait, Iraq and large parts of UAE when you say flat lands.
The Portuguese traded intensively with us Arabs and there were many Arab-Portugeuse conflicts especially in regards to the slave trade in Africa and the African trade, especially along the Swahili coast. The Portuguese eventually got control of some areas of Oman and built forts and used the ports there that gave them direct access to the Indian Sea and Arabian Sea.
Otherwise you are spot on in your post, brother.
Some of the non Muslim Guo and Ding people in Taiwan and Fujian have specific practices they do when they are worshipping their ancestors. One of them has a Quran that none of them can read and they place it at the family temple when they area worshipping and they don't give pork as offerings to their ancestors. But since they are not Muslim they eat the pork anyway.
This is an english article on the Ding and Guo families.
http://faculty.washington.edu/stevehar/ANTH470Fanke.pdf
Besides the chinese mosques built by the Hui (they look just like Chinese temples), there were also old Arab style mosques on the coastal ports. You should go visit if you ever go to Quanzhou.
Qingjing Mosque - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Quanzhou Qingjing Mosque, Ashab Mosque, Fujian
masjid : Quanzhou Qingjing Mosque
What to do in Quanzhou: China's forgotten historic port | CNN Travel
Qingjing Mosque-Quanzhou Tourist Attractions-Chinahotel
There is also Lingshan islamic cemetary in Quanzhou. Many Ding people are buried there, both Muslim and non Muslim ines.
Lingshan Islamic Cemetery - QuanzhouGuide.com
http://www.chinaculture.org/gb/en_travel/2003-09/24/content_32724.htm
I appreciate that you have taken your time to educate others about this issue. Thank you very much again. Are you from Taiwan? I always had a interest in Taiwan. My first toy pistol was made in Taiwan, LOL. Oh, it is quite interesting that branches of the Ding family moved all the way over to Taiwan and even crossed the Taiwan Strait.
Yes, the Chinese mosques are really interesting and very different from all the others in the world.
I will look at the sources later today. I have an exam on Wednesday do so I have to concentrate on that first.
Cheers.
Faujhistorian: You are a very wise man. Not many know all those details and are pretty ignorant about the Peninsula. I guess it must be all the Hollywood movies.
Yes, Arabic is a Semitic language and is obviously related to other Semitic languages like Aramaic. All Semitic languages originate on the Peninsula. Aramaic was spoken in large parts of the Peninsula and was even the language of trade. Even to this day there are ancient Southern Semitic languages spoken in Yemen and Oman, although only by 0.5 million people at most in total. Some are ancient Southern Arabic dialects and others completely new languages.
if you remember the prophet saying 'if you need to go to china for education then go".
if you remember the prophet saying 'if you need to go to china for education then go".
Here is a good resource:
Islam in China: A website on all things Chinese, Muslim and Islamic
Islam in China | "Seek knowledge even as far as China." – Possibly a saying of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
Check out stuff about Master Wang Ziping. He was an eminent Muslim martial artist.
That's a metaphor 'The holy Prophet Peace be upon him meant to Bear any hardship for learning Knowledge.
Just Consider how hard it Was to travel to China at Those times
i agree but what i am trying to get at is the islam and China where known by each other.
@FaujHistorian.