Chinese Air Force (PLAAF) News & Discussions

[Deino]

The name “KJ-600" is taken。

Now we can all start speculating what it might be and when it might reveal itself to the public。

Where do You have this designation from ??? KJ-500 was the number given "unofficially" since years ... so I'm a bit surprised ?!

 

[IrbiS]

 

[applesauce]

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there are no "interaction" protocols between US and china, what US says is not normal means absolutely nothing.

 

[IrbiS]

there are no "interaction" protocols between US and china, what US says is not normal means absolutely nothing.

They do this with Russians regularly, its nice to see someone's foot on U.S' tail

 

[IrbiS]

World Air Forces 2015 FLIGHT International

 

[zon95]

China has tried to import Russian AESA radar but failed. They can design AESA radar (thanks to Ukraine and Russia as well as Isaerl) for large ships, AWACS, but the design of miniature circuit AESA radar standard GaN MMICs (in the military) China not likely. I know fanboy china will take a few examples in the civilian sector as Ka-band MMIC nitride semiconductor (or can be copied) http://www.semiconductor-today.com/features/PDF/SemiconductorToday_SeptOct_KaBandNMMIC.pdf. But most AESA radar is located at L-band frequencies (N050) and X-band (APG-77). Another example of Chinese supercomputer but they use Intel Xeon chip, radar N050 using chip 2S + Elbrus, APG-77 radar used i960MX chip. Any names or prototype chip of AESA radar KLJ-5 (J-20) !!

China to buy 5,000 Russian air-to-air missiles

Since China's domestic air-to-air missiles such as the PL-12, the SD-10A and the PL-9C were designed based on technology from Ukraine and are still unable to compete against US counterparts, the People's Liberation Army realizes that it needs the more advanced Russian missiles to go head to head against the US and Japan in any potential future air combat, Roku wrote. He said China has already bought 1,500 R-77 missiles and 3,300 R-73 missiles from Russia.

China to buy 5,000 Russian air-to-air missiles: Japanese report｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com

Russia won't sell China radar system for J-20 stealth jet

Russia has rejected the idea of providing China with a radar system suitable for fifth-generation stealth fighters like the Chengdu J-20, according to Kanwa Defense Review, a Chinese-language military magazine published in Canada.

Russia won't sell China radar system for J-20 stealth jet: Kanwa｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com


Mikron products are sold to South-Eastern Asia. The main export countries are China, Taiwan and Hong Kong.

JSC Mikron: Private Company Information - Businessweek
Cryptography Research and Mikron JSC Sign Patent License Agreement for DPA Countermeasures - Bloomberg

Another proof, the Chinese do not have the ability to design the semiconductor, IC best small (micro), they can copy the shape but quality very poor. The most obvious example, China has a lot of SAMs and A2A however with 5 missiles shared a homing seeker head AMR-1 include: PL-10/11/12, HQ-61C, TY-60 has shown the ability to fabricate miniature electronic components in China is very low

 

[Akasa]

China has tried to import Russian AESA radar but failed. They can design AESA radar (thanks to Ukraine and Russia as well as Isaerl) for large ships, AWACS, but the design of miniature circuit AESA radar standard GaN MMICs (in the military) China not likely. I know fanboy china will take a few examples in the civilian sector as Ka-band MMIC nitride semiconductor (or can be copied) http://www.semiconductor-today.com/features/PDF/SemiconductorToday_SeptOct_KaBandNMMIC.pdf. But most AESA radar is located at L-band frequencies (N050) and X-band (APG-77). Another example of Chinese supercomputer but they use Intel Xeon chip, radar N050 using chip 2S + Elbrus, APG-77 radar used i960MX chip. Any names or prototype chip of AESA radar KLJ-5 (J-20) !!

China to buy 5,000 Russian air-to-air missiles

Since China's domestic air-to-air missiles such as the PL-12, the SD-10A and the PL-9C were designed based on technology from Ukraine and are still unable to compete against US counterparts, the People's Liberation Army realizes that it needs the more advanced Russian missiles to go head to head against the US and Japan in any potential future air combat, Roku wrote. He said China has already bought 1,500 R-77 missiles and 3,300 R-73 missiles from Russia.

China to buy 5,000 Russian air-to-air missiles: Japanese report｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com

Russia won't sell China radar system for J-20 stealth jet

Russia has rejected the idea of providing China with a radar system suitable for fifth-generation stealth fighters like the Chengdu J-20, according to Kanwa Defense Review, a Chinese-language military magazine published in Canada.

Russia won't sell China radar system for J-20 stealth jet: Kanwa｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com


Mikron products are sold to South-Eastern Asia. The main export countries are China, Taiwan and Hong Kong.

JSC Mikron: Private Company Information - Businessweek
Cryptography Research and Mikron JSC Sign Patent License Agreement for DPA Countermeasures - Bloomberg

Another proof, the Chinese do not have the ability to design the semiconductor, IC best small (micro), they can copy the shape but quality very poor. The most obvious example, China has a lot of SAMs and A2A however with 5 missiles shared a homing seeker head AMR-1 include: PL-10/11/12, HQ-61C, TY-60 has shown the ability to fabricate miniature electronic components in China is very low

Note how none of your sources have had a decent track record in reporting these "news" pieces.

World Air Forces 2015 FLIGHT International

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WAF shouldn't jump the gun and report the Su-35 until further evidence is presented.

 

[zon95]

Note how none of your sources have had a decent track record in reporting these "news" pieces.



WAF shouldn't jump the gun and report the Su-35 until further evidence is presented.

If you do not believe you can ignore but read below

 

[AgentOrange]

Note how none of your sources have had a decent track record in reporting these "news" pieces.



WAF shouldn't jump the gun and report the Su-35 until further evidence is presented.

Why would China buy radars from Russia for the J-20 when the latest two J-20 prototypes are clearly equipped with Chinese AESA radars already?

 

[zon95]

Why would China buy radars from Russia for the J-20 when the latest two J-20 prototypes are clearly equipped with Chinese AESA radars already?

Chinese AESA radars already it is rumor

Any names or prototype chip of AESA radar KLJ-5 (J-20) and already picture

AESA radar is the name of the class radar, you can not be referred to China's AESA radar, which is false and absurd, one of the unacceptable. The Russians had Zhuk-A, Zhuk-AE (L-band), Americans had APG-77/81 (X-band), European had Captor-E (X-band). But China? simply AESA radar and all the information is on paper as well as military forum

China can produce seeker for Ashm YJ-82/83/8/62/12 large size (even HQ-2, HQ-9, DF-21, KT-1, JL-2) , they mostly contain electronic circuits with large size, China can easily copy, but for the small seeker as R-27/77, AIM-120, China is not likely, because a tiny circuit sizes are difficult to copy the design, performance of China's missile arsenal as PL 9/10/11/12 is also a big question mark?

 

[AgentOrange]

Chinese AESA radars already it is rumor

Any names or prototype chip of AESA radar KLJ-5 (J-20) and already picture

AESA radar is the name of the class radar, you can not be referred to China's AESA radar, which is false and absurd, one of the unacceptable. The Russians had Zhuk-A, Zhuk-AE (L-band), Americans had APG-77/81 (X-band), European had Captor-E (X-band). But China? simply AESA radar and all the information is on paper as well as military forum

China can produce seeker for Ashm YJ-82/83/8/62/12 large size (even HQ-2, HQ-9, DF-21, KT-1, JL-2) , they mostly contain electronic circuits with large size, China can easily copy, but for the small seeker as R-27/77, AIM-120, China is not likely, because a tiny circuit sizes are difficult to copy the design, performance of China's missile arsenal as PL 9/10/11/12 is also a big question mark?

Chengdu J-20 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here ya go. There are pictures of the radar testbed with the J-20 radar equipped. You can google it yourself.

Type 1475 radar
The Type 1475 (KLJ-5) is a multifunction radar under development for the Chengdu J-20 fighter aircraft.

It is a solid-state, active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, composed of 1856 transmit/receive modules. It is currently being tested on a PLAAF Tupolev Tu-204 testbed aircraft[49]

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Chengdu J-20 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here ya go.

Type 1475 radar
The Type 1475 (KLJ-5) is a multifunction radar under development for the Chengdu J-20 fighter aircraft.

It is a solid-state, active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, composed of 1856 transmit/receive modules. It is currently being tested on a PLAAF Tupolev Tu-204 testbed aircraft[49]

The Viet members here can hardly make any constructive comments except trolling, so we should prohibit them to post in our military section.

We don't visit their military section, but they should leave ours alone as well.

 

[Deino]

To admit I don’t know what’s Your true intention behind this post, but using unreliable sources and even more dated or plain wrong information is surely not the best way to proof anything.

First of all KANWA and even more in combination with WantChinaTimes.com is surely the best way to tear down even the final bit of reliability one has as a member here … as such the only proof You give with this post is Your intention to troll !

Anyway let’s stick to Your post….

China has tried to import Russian AESA radar but failed. They can design AESA radar (thanks to Ukraine and Russia as well as Isaerl) for large ships, AWACS, but the design of miniature circuit AESA radar standard GaN MMICs (in the military) China not likely. I know fanboy china will take a few examples in the civilian sector as Ka-band MMIC nitride semiconductor (or can be copied) http://www.semiconductor-today.com/features/PDF/SemiconductorToday_SeptOct_KaBandNMMIC.pdf. But most AESA radar is located at L-band frequencies (N050) and X-band (APG-77). Another example of Chinese supercomputer but they use Intel Xeon chip, radar N050 using chip 2S + Elbrus, APG-77 radar used i960MX chip. Any names or prototype chip of AESA radar KLJ-5 (J-20) !!

It’s all speculation … and even more I don’t know if we ever will learn the name of the J-20’s radar processor ! You are correct: I do not know the exact designation of the J-10B’s, the J-15 or -16’s radar nor the processors they use … but what else ? To we know that from every other type in the West ?
By the way while other AF widely report about what kind of AESA they use and “will” use (not often correct as shown with the Russian T50), the PLAAF simply does not report at all … or at best by some secretly hidden bits and pieces … that does not mean they are not working on or with it already.

China to buy 5,000 Russian air-to-air missiles
Since China's domestic air-to-air missiles such as the PL-12, the SD-10A and the PL-9C were designed based on technology from Ukraine and are still unable to compete against US counterparts, the People's Liberation Army realizes that it needs the more advanced Russian missiles to go head to head against the US and Japan in any potential future air combat, Roku wrote. He said China has already bought 1,500 R-77 missiles and 3,300 R-73 missiles from Russia.
China to buy 5,000 Russian air-to-air missiles: Japanese report｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com

Sorry again, but WantChinaTimes.com is in general as much reliable as the German “Bild” in regard to international politics or business … even more it mixes designations (the SD-10A is the PL-12’s export version), or is plain wrong: the PL-9 is an export weapon, the PLAAF uses the PL-8 which is a licenced Python III … and where is written that they “will buy” 5000 missiles only since the “bought” the older types ???

Russia won't sell China radar system for J-20 stealth jet
Russia has rejected the idea of providing China with a radar system suitable for fifth-generation stealth fighters like the Chengdu J-20, according to Kanwa Defense Review, a Chinese-language military magazine published in Canada.
Russia won't sell China radar system for J-20 stealth jet: Kanwa｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com

Funny, this is simply the idea of a reporter here and not the PLAAF’s wish ! As such since the USA are rejecting the faked idea to sell the PLN one USS Nimitz class carrier is surely proof that the PLN is way behind the USN … again only a piece of bad reporting; typical Kanwa-style.

Another proof, the Chinese do not have the ability to design the semiconductor, IC best small (micro), they can copy the shape but quality very poor. The most obvious example, China has a lot of SAMs and A2A however with 5 missiles shared a homing seeker head AMR-1 include: PL-10/11/12, HQ-61C, TY-60 has shown the ability to fabricate miniature electronic components in China is very low

Another plain wrong BS … not even worth to bother: the PL-10 is an ASRAAM-like SR-AAM, the PL_11 is a development of the Italian Aside, a SARH-AAM and the PL-12 is an AMRAAM-like ARH-AAM … they simply can’t use the same seeker !

Anyway You are in one point correct: the PLAAF has an age-issue with its combat fleet, but given the numbers of J-10 and J-11 in all versions joining the fleet during the last years, they are indeed in a much better position than many other air arms around the world.

All the best,
Deino

 

[帅的一匹]

Only God can help those ignorant and illiterate Vietcong.

 

[cirr]

Only God can help those ignorant and illiterate Vietcong.

No，even God has given up on them.