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China's vulnerability in Malacca Strait

You should have longer memory of being slaved, ruled and colonized in your history

yes, very unfortunate . Invade people who have a history of being peaceful. Makes you proud ? How did you feel when Genghis Khan
invaded you. By the way let me tell you that there are also people who never surrendered .

. Bravery? You really make me laugh. Forgot how many Indians soldiers surrendered to Chinese in the 1962 war?

yes. never forgot. It was because of the instructions of a coward called Nehru. Please try 1962 again and if it is not the Army this time, it will be the people who will invade you. Almost everyone has an AK these days.

Lots of Indians like you are just jealous about China's achievement and can't get rid of that inferiority complex. Take care!


And there are a lot of indians who praise chinas development but there are millions of indians who also curse china trying to bully other peoples in terms of their land and their culture. You tell me how many of the great empires or millitary powers lasted for more than a few centuries. Nepoleon ? Hitler? Mughals ? . None of them ever lasts.
Some day, china will be equal to USA in military power, but there will also be others who will follow. Meanwhile good things like religions and culture will stay for thousands of centuries.

We are not jealous of chinas military or bridges or buildings, meanwhile we are proud of our way of life, our religions and culture and our food etc.
 
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yes, very unfortunate . Invade people who have a history of being peaceful. Makes you proud ? How did you feel when Genghis Khan
invaded you. By the way let me tell you that there are also people who never surrendered .



yes. never forgot. It was because of the instructions of a coward called Nehru. Please try 1962 again and if it is not the Army this time, it will be the people who will invade you. Almost everyone has an AK these days.




And there are a lot of indians who praise chinas development but there are millions of indians who also curse china trying to bully other peoples in terms of their land and their culture. You tell me how many of the great empires or millitary powers lasted for more than a few centuries. Nepoleon ? Hitler? Mughals ? . None of them ever lasts.
Some day, china will be equal to USA in military power, but there will also be others who will follow. Meanwhile good things like religions and culture will stay for thousands of centuries.

We are not jealous of chinas military or bridges or buildings, meanwhile we are proud of our way of life, our religions and culture and our food etc.

Tell it to your countryman who started with the crap.
As to who invaded whom in 1962 you can find honest Indian publication describing in details. Don't B*ll s*it around.
 
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CHINA'S VULNERABILITY in the MALACCA STRAIT

The Strait of Malacca is where the Pacific Ocean meets the Indian Ocean. It is the route that China-bound oil shipments take. All India must do to prevent a Chinese invasion of its northeast or Kashmir is to block this route. With its naval build-up of the last 10 years, and especially its recently announced purchases, India could do this.

India has U.S.-made submarine hunter-killer planes – Boeing P-8s equipped with Harpoon missiles – one Russian and one Indian-made aircraft carrier, French Scorpene attack submarines and an Indian-built nuclear submarine with missiles reaching hundreds of miles. It can arm its Russian and Indian-made destroyers and frigates with Brahmos sea-denial missiles, and has shore-based naval attack capability. The Chinese could not cope with this formidable force.

Add to this India’s growing network-centric capability and the Chinese are completely outmaneuvered.

If China put together a large force to neutralize India at the western end of the Strait of Malacca, it would weaken its home naval defenses in the South China Sea. Hence, China will continue to posture and send its navy on Indian Ocean cruises – but a formidable opposition is already building.

Moving into the Indian Ocean prematurely was a wrong move on China’s part. It alerted India and prompted a defensive build-up to counter China’s advances. China’s recent deployment of naval destroyers in the Gulf of Aden on anti-piracy missions revealed its newly acquired naval capability. An incident concocted by the Chinese press, in which an Indian Kilo-class submarine allegedly confronted a Chinese Aegis-class ship in the Gulf of Somalia, indicated China’s deep concerns about the growing prowess of the Indian Navy.

All China’s moves in the Indian Ocean – such as acquiring Coco Island from Myanmar and building up Gawadar Naval base in Pakistan – have been to intimidate India. India got the message and has begun building up its own naval forces. Its naval base in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, at the mouth of the Malacca Strait, gives India a big advantage.

China’s offensive naval capability away from home has grown exponentially with the acquisition of nuclear submarines. It is refitting a Russian and a homemade aircraft carrier, which may be ready in seven years. Surveillance capability from Coco Island off the Myanmar coast has also enhanced its effectiveness.

Chins has four Sovremenny-class destroyers purchased from the Russians and delivered in 2000 and 2006. These are its most potent warships. Originally designed by the Soviets to attack U.S. naval flotillas on the high seas, the Moskit anti-ship missile is a very potent weapon. But its limited range of 10 to 120 kilometers is lower than the Indian Brahmos sea-denial missile, with a range of 300 kilometers. Sovremenny-class ships also carry long- and short-range ship-to-shore missiles – effective if the Chinese get too close to Indian coastal bases.

China has launched its own “total weapons system” in its Aegis-equipped destroyers, developed from stolen and copied Russian technology to counter U.S. Aegis-class ships on Taiwan patrol duty. Its capability to launch long-range anti-aircraft missiles and sea surveillance is noteworthy, but how closely the Chinese copy resembles the original is unknown.

Most noteworthy in China’s naval arsenal is its fleet of submarines. In the last 10 years China has taken delivery of 12 Russian Kilo-class submarines. These, together with two new nuclear-powered submarines – the Jin class to carry ballistic missiles and Shang class attack submarines – are more potent than their ships. Nuclear ballistic missiles on board the Jin-class submarine are meant to intimidate the United States and Japan.

A large mix of these ships and submarines could travel to the Indian Ocean from China’s newly built naval dock facilities on Hainan Island and confront India or the United States.

The private intelligence agency Stratfor has concluded that by 2015 China will have two aircraft carriers – one Chinese and one Russian, but refitted by China – and two to four nuclear submarines. But China faces immense challenges in building these. Without outside help, their reliability and effectiveness are in doubt.

India’s naval expansion is not far behind. It is adding six conventional submarines from France and 33 other ships in the next five years. In addition, one or two nuclear submarines plus an aircraft carrier of Indian design and a refitted Russian one should be ready in the next two and eight years respectively.

Overall, India currently operates 134 ships, 16 submarines and two, possibly three aircraft carriers. Indian submarines are relatively modern. The French Scorpene submarines are stealth and independent propulsion and can stay under water for long periods. The nuclear submarines will carry 700-kilometer-range missiles.

One Indian nuclear submarine with its indigenous missile system is in the final phase of construction. If the Chinese position a nuclear submarine off the coast of India, the Indians can send their own nuclear submarine into position off the southern coast of China. This tit-for-tat deployment will deny China the advantage.

India’s destroyers and frigates are equipped with longer-range supersonic Brahmos missiles and carry Barak-1 anti-missile defense systems. Its aircraft carrier is presently equipped with Sea Harrier jump jets, but these will be replaced with highly lethal naval version MIG-29Ks. The newer aircraft carriers will have more advanced weapons and aircraft.

It is the Indian P-8s, the newly ordered surveillance and submarine hunter-killer planes, that are a force to reckon with. They can pick out a submarine hundreds of miles from Indian shores and “kill” it with Harpoon missiles. Add to this the shore-based defense network and the enemy will have no place to hide or get away.

In addition, India’s network-centric battlefield interconnectivity has greatly enhanced the navy’s reach. It is a strategic force multiplier. Its availability to any navy enhances the entire spectrum of management including diplomacy, humanitarian assistance, strategic deterrence, trade and commerce and security.

India made its first inroads into network-centric warfare immediately after the Kargil War of 1999. The United States is the leader in this new concept but India, with its vast software development capability, is not far behind. At the moment the Indian navy is just about network enabled and is moving progressively toward the network-centric concept. A huge software and hardware development effort is underway.

Also India’s newly constructed Kadamba naval base matches China’s newly built facility on Hainan Island. When completed, it will be a naval base, air force station and naval armament depot with long-range missile silos. It is a US$8 billion facility, the third in a series of integrated navy bases on the country’s east and west coasts. Kadamba will berth 42 ships, including aircraft carriers and submarines. It will repair and refit all navy ships and naval planes. It is a giant base with easy access to the Indian Ocean.

Hence, by 2015 India will have a formidable naval defense. Most of the Indian hardware has been built with outside help and is highly sophisticated, outclassing China-built hardware.

Therefore, a smaller but deadlier force is what China will face in the Indian Ocean. There is one wild card however – Pakistan, which could take advantage of India’s preoccupation with the Malacca Strait to gain mileage for its own strategic aims.

In short, nobody can say that China’s navy 10 years hence will be a pussycat. But in the Indian Ocean, China will face a much bigger challenge than it anticipated.


the link to the article....
China's vulnerability in Malacca Strait - upiasia.com
 
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we should get some cruise missile submarines like oscar class supported by akulas, that will take care of chinese carriers
 
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So much So for War Mongering ? Why will we block Chinese Shipments in Mallaca Straits . Talking about War with a neighbor who has co existed with you for thousands of years and will co exist for next thousand year is Utter Stupidity . China's Key Interest lies in South China Seas and Ours in India Ocean Region . There is just no conflict of interest except some boundary issue which will be resolved with time . Peace out .
 
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This is a compelling reason why China should go all out to strengthen BN's capablity.
 
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This is a compelling reason why China should go all out to strengthen BN's capablity.
Day dreaming ka license bangladeshiyon ko dey hee daina chahiyeh. Aaj kaal challay hai yeh chotay motay aas pados say duniya ko batanay kee world affair kaysay handle karnay chahiyeh. Pehlay aapnay khud kay score tov settle karlo burma say pher day deyna landi buchi ko advice deynay.

Exactly why are you wasting our time.?
 
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If this is from Indian media/author, your media is indeed free, free to say whatever you want without getting basic facts right.

1. Everything mentioned about PLAN are already in their inventory for years, and where are those:

"one Russian and one Indian-made aircraft carrier, French Scorpene attack submarines and an Indian-built nuclear submarine with missiles reaching hundreds of miles. It can arm its Russian and Indian-made destroyers and frigates with Brahmos sea-denial missiles"?

Are they in Indian inventory or just on paper?

2. As far as I know, Russia does not possess any “total weapons system” or "Aegis-class destroyers", where the hell did Chinese steal or copy this technology from Russia. Just because Chinese developed something hi-tech out of their own that Indian can not, all of the sudden, those technology become stolen or copied?

After all, the whole article is trying to compare Indian navy in 2015 to PLAN in 2009, sometimes it is ok to be nationalistic, but this is way over the line.


""Ofcourse their home made J-11B is from the copy of Su-27, but don't worry china could steal only thier design not techs, and the J-11B has very low techs according to Russian scients...China Acually paid $2.5 billion for the licence to make 200 Su-27 at the Shenyang Aircraft Company but after making 105 China abruptly canceled the contract in 2004, claiming the aircraft no longer met its requirements, according to Russian officials and defense experts... After some years Russian officials confirmed that china was making J-11B with Su-27th designs and some of its techs.......that was the reason Russia refused to sell Su-33 to china...""'
 
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Tell it to your countryman who started with the crap.
As to who invaded whom in 1962 you can find honest Indian publication describing in details. Don't B*ll s*it around.

Ask yourself a question man, the land you've isn't it enough for you ? why your aggressive leaders invade peacefull nations,,,you invaded Tibet and desert their people, you want to invade tiwan, you want our land....Dude what kinda behavier is that...we can even bring some myth kina maps and show that china belong to us and so....but we won't,,,acc to our ancient map sri lanka, burma,bhutan,napal,pakistan,Bhagladesh belongs to us, now are you going to invade them, no......this is the reason rest of the world call us as a peacefull nation and you as a aggressor....
 
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