China's new launch rocket

[Akasa]

Actually we are very still far behind the USA

The CZ-5 is not even close to be the most powerful.

The Saturn V rocet build by Von Braun in 1960's is FAR more powerful, and it is still the biggest and most powerful rocket up to date with an INSANE 120 ton LEO payload!!!!!!. The Russians tried to answer it with N-1 but FAILED SO BAD!!!

USA Saturn V. Engineering masterpeace!!!
Saturn V - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Russian N-1. Failed so bad
N1 (rocket) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Right now China is building a rocket with 60 ton LEO payload. Maybe in 2015 China will be able to build a Rocket that can truly match the Saturn V. Only after we Chinese obtaining such advanced and powerful rocket can then China have a chance of sending man to the moon. The russians FAILED, their N-1failed 4 times in 4 try and cost the Russians huge amount of money. This is why even up to date. Russia does not have the ability to send a man to the moon.

If by 2015 China has its own Saturn V like Rocket, then it is safe to say that China has caught up with Russia in SPACE TECH!!! Still need to chase USA for another 10 years before passing them!

Seriously, please do some research beforehand.

The CZ-5-504 can produce over 10.6 million Newtons of thrust. That's more than any other current launch vehicle, even the Russian Angara 5. The Ares I and Ariane 5 will not be able to lift more mass than the CZ-5-504.

CZ-5 Data Sheet

BTW, the N-1 rocket produced more thrust than the Saturn V. The problem was channeling fuel to the 30 engines.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Dude!! either you are ignorant or pretending to be one. a few eye opener for you.
Japans cargo plane
Japanese rocket takes off on space cargo mission | Radio Netherlands Worldwide

Japans asteroid space plane
Hayabusa Spacecraft Returns With Fiery Show

But they can't send man into space just like the rest of Euro nations.

 

[IndianTiger]

india has no experience of building rockets!!!

The rockets are bought from Russia and india can not even lunch them with success.

2 FAILED last year alone!!!

You are an indian hiding behind a canadian flag!!

India successfully launched 10 satellite at a time its world record by ISRO,
don't get much excited as C&P technology(i.e. Copy and paste technology) of china worked..

 

[Akasa]

But they can't send man into space just like the rest of Euro nations.

Euro can't do it either.

Only China, US, and Russia can

 

[cross1993]

Why should we. They do not want to cooperate with us. Why give them glory they do not deserve?

We should learn to generous. The universe belongs to all mankind. The universe should not be alone. I think we should cooperate with other countries.
We can share the burden of costs, enjoy the honor together.

 

[JayAtl]

To be honest, it's hard to cheer a result like 2/7.

like it was when you attempts wiped out almost a whole village in the past? indian space program has no where near had the time to mature like you guys have had. fact is you had have tremedous failures, but they never get reported/ censored only good ones are allowed to be wriiten about by your govt. but some slip through:

Chinese Rocket Launches Satellite to Wrong Orbit Chinese Rocket Launches Satellite to Wrong Orbit | Space.com

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

like it was when you attempts killed 500 villagers in the past? indian space program is no where near had the time to mature like you guys have had. fcat is you had have tremedous failures, but they never get reported/ censored. but some slip through:

Chinese Rocket Launches Satellite to Wrong Orbit Chinese Rocket Launches Satellite to Wrong Orbit | Space.com

This type of trolling is getting old now.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

We should learn to generous. The universe belongs to all mankind. The universe should not be alone. I think we should cooperate with other countries.
We can share the burden of costs, enjoy the honor together.

Don't be naive with those white supremacists, you just can't imagine how ugly these people can be.

 

[JayAtl]

This type of trolling is getting old now.

how's it trolling when it was a reply to his claim ?
Let me understand this- you guys make a claim of being flawless , then go on to make fun of india's failures and a reply showing that your country too learned from failures= trolling?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

how's it trolling when it was a reply to his claim ?
Let me understand this- you guys make a claim of being flawless , then go on to make fun of india's failures and reply showing that your country too learned from failures= trolling?

Why always bragging something happened in 15 years ago in the previous century?

Did China repeat the same failure from the past decade? Nope.

 

[cross1993]

like it was when you attempts killed 500 villagers in the past? indian space program is no where near had the time to mature like you guys have had. fcat is you had have tremedous failures, but they never get reported/ censored. but some slip through:

Chinese Rocket Launches Satellite to Wrong Orbit Chinese Rocket Launches Satellite to Wrong Orbit | Space.com

That is false news.
China's satellite launch base, No villages around it, it is no man's land.

Do you think China govt is stupid? We will choose to launch rockets in city? 500 people died? The rockets are a cluster bombs?
You actually believe that so many loopholes in the article.... I was surprised your IQ!

Plz look at satellite maps:

 

[cross1993]

Are Indians so easily cheating?
If Chinese people, That article even can not deceive children.

Indians even lack the most basic ability to judge, I think India govt should review their national education.

 

[redhat]

China's Missile Imports and Assistance From Abroad

Although China now produces most of its missiles indigenously, it receives missile-related imports and assistance from a number of other countries. Although China has imported some complete systems, such as SAMs and certain other systems from Russia, China's emphasis in missile-related imports has been on expertise and technology, particularly technology that will facilitate indigenous production, which China strongly prefers to off-the-shelf buys. China's highest priority is technologies to improve the accuracy, stealth, fuel efficiency, and miniaturization of rocket systems.

For additional in-depth information on open-source reports of Chinese imports and assistance from abroad, please consult the CNS Missile Abstracts database.

CHINA'S MISSILE IMPORTS AND ASSISTANCE

COUNTRY

REPORTED AREA OF MISSILE-RELATED ASSISTANCE TO CHINA
BELARUS

* MAZ mobile launcher six-axle chassis (same design as launcher for former Soviet SS-20)

--Probably to be copied to improve performance and mobility of Chinese launchers
--Photographed in 1996 at Beijing Nanyuan missile plant
--Possible relationship between launcher and China's DF-31 program

BRAZIL

* Solid fuel rocket technology (in return for Chinese liquid fuel technology and missile guidance) (1985-)

ISRAEL

* Assistance in cruise missile development:

--YF-12A
--YJ-62
--YJ-92
* --Sharing of technology of Israeli land-attack cruise missile based on Star-1 attack drone (Beijing is contributing financially to missile's development) (1995) Global Positioning System (GPS) navigation equipment (1991)
* Assistance in improving guidance of M-9 and DF-3 (CSS-2) ballistic missiles
* US Patriot anti-missile system technology:

--Guidance and propulsion technology (in return for information on M-9 and M-11 ballistic missiles)
* --Reportedly used to develop countermeasures against Patriot for China's ballistic and cruise missiles US Python-3 air-to-air missiles (AAMs)
*

UAV

--"Harpy" anti-radar drones (2002)
JAPAN

* Electron beam machine (from Toshiba) (1992)

RUSSIA

*

Cruise missiles:
--Assistance in development of land-attack missile (1990s)
--Assistance in development of anti-ship missiles (1990s)
--Transfer of stealth technology for cruise missiles (1990s)
--Raduga 3M-80 (SS-N-22 "Sunburn") anti-ship cruise missiles (along with four Sovremenny-class guided missile destroyers) (1996). The first lot of 24 missiles were shipped 16 May 2000. The second lot is to be delivered at the end of the year 2000.
--Marketing of Raduga Kh-65SE air-launched missile (?)
--Negotiation for transfer of the Kh-31A (AS-17 "Krypton") air-launched anti-ship missile
--Assistance in development of the Kh-31P (AS-17 "Kryton") air-launched anti-radiation missile (1997-1998)
--Transfer of KR-1 missiles (Chinese indigenous designation: YJ-91)
--SS-N-19 anti-ship missile (?)
--"Kashtan" naval-gun-and-missile complexes (1995)
--"Moskit" supersonic anti-ship missiles (1997)
--"Club" missile complex (2002)
* ICBM technology and parts:

* --Attempted Chinese purchase of SS-18 ICBM technology (1990s)--ostensibly for improving China's civilian space-launch program using the SS-18 booster Missile guidance:

* --Electronic equipment to improve missile accuracy (1990s) Rocket engines:

* --Three RD-170 engines for Zenit SLV (1991) (sold with Ukraine) Surface-to-air missiles (SAMs):

-- S-300 PMU-1 [NATO designation SA-10/SA-N-6] SAMs (1990s)
* --Tor-M1 short-range air defense missile complexes

Unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs)
*

Missile Launchers:

--"Smerch" multiple missile launcher (1995)


SOUTH AFRICA

* Missile technology

UKRAINE

* ICBM technology and parts:

* --Attempted Chinese purchase of SS-18 ICBM technology (1990s)--ostensibly for improving China's civilian space-launch program using the SS-18 booster Rocket engines:

-- Three RD-170 engines for Zenit SLV (1991) (sold with Ukraine)

UNITED KINGDOM

* Missile engines:

--Digital engine controls for K-8 jet trainer (could contribute to China's design of a long-range cruise missile) (1995)

UNITED STATES

* Guidance technology:

* --China may have developed the guidance system for its C-802 cruise missile using US technology Machine tools:

* --Diversion by China of six machine tools to the Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Company (which produces cruise missiles), sold by McDonnell Douglas to the China National Aero-Technology Import-Export Corporation (CATIC) in September 1994 Missile engines [gas turbine engines (from AlliedSignal to Nanchang Aircraft Company)--could contribute to China's design of a long-range cruise missile]

* --40 TFE731-2A-2A engines from AlliedSignal Satellite technology:

* --Integration analysis (possibly applicable to MIRV development) (1994) Supercomputers (possibly diverted to military use)
* Missile Technology
--Hughes Electronic Corp. and Loral Space and Communications Ltd. transferred sensitive information regarding 1996 crash of a Long March rocket

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The record of Long March launching from 1969 to 2010.

128/136 was successful, 6 failures and 2 partial failures.

List of Long March launches - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China's Missile Imports and Assistance From Abroad

Although China now produces most of its missiles indigenously, it receives missile-related imports and assistance from a number of other countries. Although China has imported some complete systems, such as SAMs and certain other systems from Russia, China's emphasis in missile-related imports has been on expertise and technology, particularly technology that will facilitate indigenous production, which China strongly prefers to off-the-shelf buys. China's highest priority is technologies to improve the accuracy, stealth, fuel efficiency, and miniaturization of rocket systems.

For additional in-depth information on open-source reports of Chinese imports and assistance from abroad, please consult the CNS Missile Abstracts database.

CHINA'S MISSILE IMPORTS AND ASSISTANCE

COUNTRY

REPORTED AREA OF MISSILE-RELATED ASSISTANCE TO CHINA
BELARUS

* MAZ mobile launcher six-axle chassis (same design as launcher for former Soviet SS-20)

--Probably to be copied to improve performance and mobility of Chinese launchers
--Photographed in 1996 at Beijing Nanyuan missile plant
--Possible relationship between launcher and China's DF-31 program

BRAZIL

* Solid fuel rocket technology (in return for Chinese liquid fuel technology and missile guidance) (1985-)

ISRAEL

* Assistance in cruise missile development:

--YF-12A
--YJ-62
--YJ-92
* --Sharing of technology of Israeli land-attack cruise missile based on Star-1 attack drone (Beijing is contributing financially to missile's development) (1995) Global Positioning System (GPS) navigation equipment (1991)
* Assistance in improving guidance of M-9 and DF-3 (CSS-2) ballistic missiles
* US Patriot anti-missile system technology:

--Guidance and propulsion technology (in return for information on M-9 and M-11 ballistic missiles)
* --Reportedly used to develop countermeasures against Patriot for China's ballistic and cruise missiles US Python-3 air-to-air missiles (AAMs)
*

UAV

--"Harpy" anti-radar drones (2002)
JAPAN

* Electron beam machine (from Toshiba) (1992)

RUSSIA

*

Cruise missiles:
--Assistance in development of land-attack missile (1990s)
--Assistance in development of anti-ship missiles (1990s)
--Transfer of stealth technology for cruise missiles (1990s)
--Raduga 3M-80 (SS-N-22 "Sunburn") anti-ship cruise missiles (along with four Sovremenny-class guided missile destroyers) (1996). The first lot of 24 missiles were shipped 16 May 2000. The second lot is to be delivered at the end of the year 2000.
--Marketing of Raduga Kh-65SE air-launched missile (?)
--Negotiation for transfer of the Kh-31A (AS-17 "Krypton") air-launched anti-ship missile
--Assistance in development of the Kh-31P (AS-17 "Kryton") air-launched anti-radiation missile (1997-1998)
--Transfer of KR-1 missiles (Chinese indigenous designation: YJ-91)
--SS-N-19 anti-ship missile (?)
--"Kashtan" naval-gun-and-missile complexes (1995)
--"Moskit" supersonic anti-ship missiles (1997)
--"Club" missile complex (2002)
* ICBM technology and parts:

* --Attempted Chinese purchase of SS-18 ICBM technology (1990s)--ostensibly for improving China's civilian space-launch program using the SS-18 booster Missile guidance:

* --Electronic equipment to improve missile accuracy (1990s) Rocket engines:

* --Three RD-170 engines for Zenit SLV (1991) (sold with Ukraine) Surface-to-air missiles (SAMs):

-- S-300 PMU-1 [NATO designation SA-10/SA-N-6] SAMs (1990s)
* --Tor-M1 short-range air defense missile complexes

Unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs)
*

Missile Launchers:

--"Smerch" multiple missile launcher (1995)


SOUTH AFRICA

* Missile technology

UKRAINE

* ICBM technology and parts:

* --Attempted Chinese purchase of SS-18 ICBM technology (1990s)--ostensibly for improving China's civilian space-launch program using the SS-18 booster Rocket engines:

-- Three RD-170 engines for Zenit SLV (1991) (sold with Ukraine)

UNITED KINGDOM

* Missile engines:

--Digital engine controls for K-8 jet trainer (could contribute to China's design of a long-range cruise missile) (1995)

UNITED STATES

* Guidance technology:

* --China may have developed the guidance system for its C-802 cruise missile using US technology Machine tools:

* --Diversion by China of six machine tools to the Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Company (which produces cruise missiles), sold by McDonnell Douglas to the China National Aero-Technology Import-Export Corporation (CATIC) in September 1994 Missile engines [gas turbine engines (from AlliedSignal to Nanchang Aircraft Company)--could contribute to China's design of a long-range cruise missile]

* --40 TFE731-2A-2A engines from AlliedSignal Satellite technology:

* --Integration analysis (possibly applicable to MIRV development) (1994) Supercomputers (possibly diverted to military use)
* Missile Technology
--Hughes Electronic Corp. and Loral Space and Communications Ltd. transferred sensitive information regarding 1996 crash of a Long March rocket

Source please.