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If China know this niceguy really stupid and brain **** up, she should have shot this nice guy in da brain. So his brain functioning probably.
You mean Mao was stupid when supporting VN ? Oh , you forgot that he didn't give a full support untill Soviet threaten to Nuke China . He supported VN and hope VN would not shake hand with Soviet and attacked China from the South to take back GuangDong-GuangXi when Soviet would wipe off all China forces in the North by Nuke warhead, and he was right, we didn't attack China that time to take back GuangDong-GuangXi:coffee:

btw: we couldn't receive SA-3 in 1972 to shoot B-52 just bcz China wanna stealth and copy it.
 
You mean Mao was stupid when supporting VN ? Oh , you forgot that he didn't give a full support untill Soviet threaten to Nuke China . He supported VN and hope VN would not shake hand with Soviet and attacked China from the South to take back GuangDong-GuangXi when Soviet would wipe off all China forces in the North by Nuke warhead, and he was right, we didn't attack China that time to take back GuangDong-GuangXi:coffee:

We will gladly to have Vietnam back and you vietnameses will be our second class citizens
 
We will gladly to have Vietnam back and you vietnameses will be our second class citizens
But your vice president doesn't like your plan, he willing to give VN as much money as we want and VN will help him to sit firmly on his throne in exchange .

People love win-win deal, dude :pop:
 
But your vice president doesn't like your plan, he willing to give VN as much money as we want and VN will help him to sit firmly on his throne in exchange .

People love win-win deal, dude :pop:

we gave you 200 million dollars. pocket change.

in return we're strip mining Vietnam with toxic chemicals, taking away your resources and permanently destroying your environment.
 
This is what you did right now in East sea or south china sea, you begging Your enemy US of A to help you a hand, when you cannot stand up by your own-self? 1979 incident is create by Viets, you betrayed china and go ally with Russia when china helping you so much. China betray soviet in cold war hahahaha and today china is still communist? Soviet got betrayed by it own politicians, not China.




Dirty policy of China is targeted to divide Vietnam not to help Vietnam in Vietnam war with France or USA. When intention of China is collapsed, china is using Khmer Rouge to attacked Vietnam from south and China itself attacked Vietnam from North 1979.
Thank for Soviet union help, very big help, Vietnam has been overcame all difficulties made by our enemies : France, USA and China.
 
If China didn't provide sanctuary for Vietcongs...and allow Soviets to supplie weapons throught China by rails and by road..you vietnamese could only fight with stone and hammers against U.S B-52 superfortress's bombarments...U.S 7th fleet was there to set blockage against any soviet shipments by sea to Vietnam...without saying that we provide food and commodities to Vietcongs...it's OK we chinese don't expect anything from Vietname but at least we have achieve a geopolitical gain was to get U.S. out of our backyard

As for USSR and China...didnt get along since 1960s...you Vietnamese gorvernment knew that, 1972 was a golden opportunity and rare occasion (or window of opportunity) for China to join the world instead of playing stupid ideology game that only drain our resource, Nixxon came to China, Deng when to U.S , we stroke a win-win deal we didnt beg, in fact we gain more that we expect:

China recongition...Taiwan reconginze as China province only by western world
China got U.N permanant seat.
China join Europe and U.S
China got financial aid to develop economy

Later Breznev wanted to have good relation with China because Soviet knew there is no gain to have China as enemy...Deng didn't respond until Gorbachev came into power. if you want to call diplomacy with west is consier as betrayal...when Collapsed Soviet later join West and abolish communist and socialist system..then how you call that, at least China is still loyal to communism and keep it up until now...and how about Vietnam??you guy also later establish diplomacy with western world also..should we call you betrayl too?? ...China has shown the right path...than ex-U.S.S.R and Vietnam just follow...you vietnamese dont have destiny but just a follower and pursue other's food step..that what you're.


Betrayer has thousand + one reason to do that, ha ha.:smokin:
I think in China young guys may be the victim of brainwashed propaganda.

Remembering Mao's Victims

By Andreas Lorenz in Beijing

As a documentary filmmaker honors the first victim of China's Cultural Revolution, the Communist Party leadership remains silent over this bloody chapter in its history.

"What is your name?" the Great Helmsman asked a young student as she pinned a Red Guard armband on him in front of the Gate of Heavenly Peace. "Song Binbin," she responded enthusiastically. The name her parents chose meant "properly raised" and "polite," qualities that Mao Zedong found unappealing. "Be violent!" he ordered the girl. A short time later she changed her first name to Yaowu, or "Be Violent."
It was Aug. 18, 1966 and the 72-year-old Chinese leader had called male and female students to assemble on Beijing's Square of Heavenly Peace to launch his Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution. Hundreds of thousands waved Mao's little red book and cheered the old man.

Mao's call to violence fell on willing ears among many young people. Thirteen days earlier Song, 19 at the time, was presumably present when the female students at her school, which was part of the Beijing Teachers University, killed their teacher, Bian Zhongyun. The girls brutally beat the 50-year-old woman to death using wooden sticks spiked with nails. On the day before the killing, members of the Red Guard had already maltreated the teacher, who was the party leader at the school -- they suddenly viewed her as a "counter-revolutionary revisionist" who they believed had gambled away her life.

Bian went down in history as the first victim of the Cultural Revolution -- the bloody mass movement Mao used to eliminate his enemies within the party. The teacher's murder was followed by the killings of millions of Chinese people. The ten-year campaign destroyed entire families, irreplaceable cultural treasures and centuries-old traditions. In August 1966 alone, about 100 teachers were murdered by their own students in the western section of Beijing.
'She Believed that She Was Innocent'

Independent filmmaker Hu Jie has now traced the grim events at Bian's school in great detail in a new documentary entitled: "Though I Am Gone."

One of the main characters in Hu's film is the murdered woman's husband, 85-year-old Wang Qingyao. "She sacrificed herself as if she were refusing to lose her dignity," the old man explains. Shortly before his wife died, says Wang, he tried to convince her to flee, but she refused. "She believed that she was innocent," says Wang.

Most Chinese people will never get to see Hu's historical work. The Chinese Communist Party has continued to keep silent about this chapter of its history. In 2006, the 40th anniversary of the beginning of the Cultural Revolution, it instructed academics, artists and journalists to simply ignore the topic.

This was probably the reason the authorities recently cancelled the Multiculture Visual Festival in the southern province of Yunnan, an event where director Hu had planned to screen his documentary. Despite the cancellation, the film is available on YouTube, where it is cut into 10 segments -- although late last week the film was banned in China. Hu, a military painter by trade, is used to these kinds of difficulties. When he filmed an earlier documentary about another Mao victim ("In Search of the Soul of Lin Zhao"), he lost his job with Xinhua, the official Chinese news agency.

But what is a people without memory? Hu asks. "If politicians deny their own history, we simple Chinese should remember. We must continue to make many films about the Cultural Revolution and its massacres."

One of the reasons the Communist Party reacted with such sensitivity to his most recent work is that many of the former members of the Red Guard who attended Bian's middle school were members of the families of high-ranking officials who are still revered today. "Some were daughters, nieces or granddaughters of members of the Politburo," says Wang, the widower featured in the film. "It was essentially a royal school." Yaowu, for example, was the daughter of a senior Communist Party official. The students also included Deng Rong, daughter of the later Communist Party patriarch and economic reformer Deng Xiaoping, as well as Liu Tingting, a daughter of former President Liu Shaoqi.

The families of most members of the Red Guard later became victims of the Cultural Revolution themselves. Radical comrades drove Deng out of office, and his song Pufang was forced to jump from a window and has been paraplegic ever since. Liu died a miserable death in prison in 1969.

Their daughters, former Red Guard members Deng and Liu, are businesswomen today, while Song Binbin, a.k.a. Yaowu, now works as an environmental researcher in Boston. In a US documentary about the Cultural Revolution, she denied any involvement in the murder of her teacher. "I was always opposed to violence," she said, adding that the People's Daily, the Communist Party paper, had forced the name Yaowu upon her.

The Cultural Revolution has never been dealt with officially, nor has there been any debate over culpability and collaboration. With the exception of the "Gang of Four," which included Mao's widow, Jiang Qing, no high-ranking politicians were ever put on trial.

Bian's husband has never quite got over his wife's murder. He has even saved her bloody clothing and shows them in the film, but he is likely to be left alone with his memories. The authorities have turned down his request to have a memorial plaque installed in the schoolyard.

Translated from the German by Christopher Sultan

ARTICLE...http://http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,483023,00.html
 
I told the "Niceguy" brain got messed up and did not functioning properly, stop replied his post. China should give him a shot bullet in his head and it will straighten his brain, so he will be smarter.
 
Dirty policy of China is targeted to divide Vietnam not to help Vietnam in Vietnam war with France or USA. When intention of China is collapsed, china is using Khmer Rouge to attacked Vietnam from south and China itself attacked Vietnam from North 1979.
Thank for Soviet union help, very big help, Vietnam has been overcame all difficulties made by our enemies : France, USA and China.

If 1979 incident we dont stop, and continued down South. Man! you would invade and move to cambodia as your new country. Lucky we stop and withdrew to let you have Vietnam back, so you can big mouth here today. We taught you a lesson for you to remember, we not like USA fought the war and bases there.
 
If 1979 incident we dont stop, and continued down South. Man! you would invade and move to cambodia as your new country. Lucky we stop and withdrew to let you have Vietnam back, so you can big mouth here today. We taught you a lesson for you to remember, we not like USA fought the war and bases there.

Khmer Rouge Polpot attacked Vietnam be course China backed him. With out pushing of China he couldn't do that. China didn't showed any lesson about invasion in Vietnam 1979 other than make an joke for people in the world.
Yes, Vietnam has learned also one lesson from China: to be carefully with China, Chinese Gov is dangerous traitor, he can change his face very quickly.
 
Dirty policy of China is targeted to divide Vietnam not to help Vietnam in Vietnam war with France or USA. When intention of China is collapsed, china is using Khmer Rouge to attacked Vietnam from south and China itself attacked Vietnam from North 1979.
Thank for Soviet union help, very big help, Vietnam has been overcame all difficulties made by our enemies : France, USA and China.

no you did not. your own government is allowing Vietnam's resources to be strip mined with toxic chemicals and shipped to China.
 
no you did not. your own government is allowing Vietnam's resources to be strip mined with toxic chemicals and shipped to China.

In Vietnam public opinon is very angry to this project based on worry about environment impact and illegal chinese workers. It's good new or bad new ?
In case of Chinese believe that they are "high IQ" :P and and following some trick to cheat us, we can stop sell more our resourse to you.:enjoy:
 
If 1979 incident we dont stop, and continued down South. Man! you would invade and move to cambodia as your new country. Lucky we stop and withdrew to let you have Vietnam back, so you can big mouth here today. We taught you a lesson for you to remember, we not like USA fought the war and bases there.
You must stop, bcz you lost 26,000 PLA troops when just fighting with our women and border guards only.Your forces with 600,000 PLA troops would totaly be wipe off when facing with our regular forces coming back from Laos and Cambodia .
Hanoi believed, however, that the Vietnamese army had taught the Chinese army a lesson. One [People's Army of Vietnam] general said that China lost militarily and beat a hasty retreat: “After we defeated them we gave them the red carpet to leave Vietnam.” As Henry J. Kenny points out, “Most Western writers agree that Vietnam had indeed outperformed the PLA on the battlefield, but say that with the seizure of Lang Son, the PLA was poised to move into the militarily more hospitable terrain of the Red River Delta, and thence to Hanoi.” Kenny, however, points out that Lang Son is less than twelve miles from the Chinese border but is twice that distance from the delta. Moreover, at least five PAVN divisions remained poised for a counterattack in the delta, and thirty thousand additional PAVN troops from Cambodia, along with several regiments from Laos, were moving to their support. Thus the PLA would have taken huge losses in any southward move toward Hanoi.
What the PLA Learned in Vietnam, 1979 | Far Outliers
 
Betrayer has thousand + one reason to do that, ha ha.:smokin:
I think in China young guys may be the victim of brainwashed propaganda.

Remembering Mao's Victims

By Andreas Lorenz in Beijing

As a documentary filmmaker honors the first victim of China's Cultural Revolution, the Communist Party leadership remains silent over this bloody chapter in its history.

"What is your name?" the Great Helmsman asked a young student as she pinned a Red Guard armband on him in front of the Gate of Heavenly Peace. "Song Binbin," she responded enthusiastically. The name her parents chose meant "properly raised" and "polite," qualities that Mao Zedong found unappealing. "Be violent!" he ordered the girl. A short time later she changed her first name to Yaowu, or "Be Violent."
It was Aug. 18, 1966 and the 72-year-old Chinese leader had called male and female students to assemble on Beijing's Square of Heavenly Peace to launch his Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution. Hundreds of thousands waved Mao's little red book and cheered the old man.

Mao's call to violence fell on willing ears among many young people. Thirteen days earlier Song, 19 at the time, was presumably present when the female students at her school, which was part of the Beijing Teachers University, killed their teacher, Bian Zhongyun. The girls brutally beat the 50-year-old woman to death using wooden sticks spiked with nails. On the day before the killing, members of the Red Guard had already maltreated the teacher, who was the party leader at the school -- they suddenly viewed her as a "counter-revolutionary revisionist" who they believed had gambled away her life.

Bian went down in history as the first victim of the Cultural Revolution -- the bloody mass movement Mao used to eliminate his enemies within the party. The teacher's murder was followed by the killings of millions of Chinese people. The ten-year campaign destroyed entire families, irreplaceable cultural treasures and centuries-old traditions. In August 1966 alone, about 100 teachers were murdered by their own students in the western section of Beijing.
'She Believed that She Was Innocent'

Independent filmmaker Hu Jie has now traced the grim events at Bian's school in great detail in a new documentary entitled: "Though I Am Gone."

One of the main characters in Hu's film is the murdered woman's husband, 85-year-old Wang Qingyao. "She sacrificed herself as if she were refusing to lose her dignity," the old man explains. Shortly before his wife died, says Wang, he tried to convince her to flee, but she refused. "She believed that she was innocent," says Wang.

Most Chinese people will never get to see Hu's historical work. The Chinese Communist Party has continued to keep silent about this chapter of its history. In 2006, the 40th anniversary of the beginning of the Cultural Revolution, it instructed academics, artists and journalists to simply ignore the topic.

This was probably the reason the authorities recently cancelled the Multiculture Visual Festival in the southern province of Yunnan, an event where director Hu had planned to screen his documentary. Despite the cancellation, the film is available on YouTube, where it is cut into 10 segments -- although late last week the film was banned in China. Hu, a military painter by trade, is used to these kinds of difficulties. When he filmed an earlier documentary about another Mao victim ("In Search of the Soul of Lin Zhao"), he lost his job with Xinhua, the official Chinese news agency.

But what is a people without memory? Hu asks. "If politicians deny their own history, we simple Chinese should remember. We must continue to make many films about the Cultural Revolution and its massacres."

One of the reasons the Communist Party reacted with such sensitivity to his most recent work is that many of the former members of the Red Guard who attended Bian's middle school were members of the families of high-ranking officials who are still revered today. "Some were daughters, nieces or granddaughters of members of the Politburo," says Wang, the widower featured in the film. "It was essentially a royal school." Yaowu, for example, was the daughter of a senior Communist Party official. The students also included Deng Rong, daughter of the later Communist Party patriarch and economic reformer Deng Xiaoping, as well as Liu Tingting, a daughter of former President Liu Shaoqi.

The families of most members of the Red Guard later became victims of the Cultural Revolution themselves. Radical comrades drove Deng out of office, and his song Pufang was forced to jump from a window and has been paraplegic ever since. Liu died a miserable death in prison in 1969.

Their daughters, former Red Guard members Deng and Liu, are businesswomen today, while Song Binbin, a.k.a. Yaowu, now works as an environmental researcher in Boston. In a US documentary about the Cultural Revolution, she denied any involvement in the murder of her teacher. "I was always opposed to violence," she said, adding that the People's Daily, the Communist Party paper, had forced the name Yaowu upon her.

The Cultural Revolution has never been dealt with officially, nor has there been any debate over culpability and collaboration. With the exception of the "Gang of Four," which included Mao's widow, Jiang Qing, no high-ranking politicians were ever put on trial.

Bian's husband has never quite got over his wife's murder. He has even saved her bloody clothing and shows them in the film, but he is likely to be left alone with his memories. The authorities have turned down his request to have a memorial plaque installed in the schoolyard.

Translated from the German by Christopher Sultan

ARTICLE...http://http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,483023,00.html

This is enough to explain, who was brainwashed, what you know on the Cultural Revolution? A joke.

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You must stop, bcz you lost 26,000 PLA troops when just fighting with our women and border guards only.Your forces with 600,000 PLA troops would totaly be wipe off when facing with our regular forces coming back from Laos and Cambodia .

What the PLA Learned in Vietnam, 1979 | Far Outliers

Therefore, the Vietnamese leader to Beijing to beg a truce in the 90S?
 
No-nonsense, since the Viet Nam hopes to get a lesson once again, we will match it, sometimes war is a solution.
 
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