China-US Geopolitics: News & Discussions

[Viet]

four Trident II were fired? wow that is crazy.

 

[gambit]

How US can make it as non issue just with patrol once a month or twice a year while China is permanently there?

Whether it is once a month or once a yr is irrelevant. As long as one country is able to transit the SCS unmolested, other countries can and do it at any time. If China attack any non-US flagged ship when the US Navy is not in presence in the SCS, the US would surely make it more than once a month in the SCS.

All it takes it just one time...

This is called PROFESSIONAL BS post.

The real bullshit is that China have no interests in the freedom of navigation in the SCS.

If the US say we have no interests in those little islands, everyone would believe.

But if China say you have no interests in the freedom of navigation principle in the SCS, everyone would laugh. Then they call the US.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Whether it is once a month or once a yr is irrelevant. As long as one country is able to transit the SCS unmolested, other countries can and do it at any time. If China attack any non-US flagged ship when the US Navy is not in presence in the SCS, the US would surely make it more than once a month in the SCS.

All it takes it just one time...

Which countries have been molested by China for transiting SCS? If they feel insecure is it China's problem? . US can come as many times they want to make them feel secure... only if their can afford all these long patrol trips.

 

[Srinivas]

And we will make sure it will never become an issue. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

It is like a comedy how these Chinese are pretending like nothing has happened

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

It is like a comedy how these Chinese are pretending like nothing has happened

We Chinese don't make drama like Indian when our Subs docked in Sri Lanka ports...LMAO, it's not the first time nor the Last time that US come to SCS

 

[The Accountant]

It is like a comedy how these Chinese are pretending like nothing has happened

Ok then tell me what difference does it make ... China is strengthening its defences ... the whole idea is to have a base to defend Malacca Straits in case of war ... China is achieving its objective ... what objective US is achieving except for satisfying its ego at the cost of tax payer money.

 

[YeBeWarned]

i think US should focus more on ISIS and ME ... the mess that goes out of their hand , China and SCS is going nowhere , nor islands .. Chinese are there to stay while US will be there to Put pressure that's it .. the world need to focus more on Terrorism which is consuming more lives and destroying countries , ideologies and Civilizations .

 

[gambit]

Which countries have been molested by China for transiting SCS?

Irrelevant. There is a first time for everything. We just want to prevent China from having that 'first time'.

 

[samsara]

It is like a comedy how these Chinese are pretending like nothing has happened

I had posted below earlier, and I wanna add few more lines here:

As long as the USA is just sailing its CSG and China keeps on its diligent works on those islands, thing will be safe and nothing happens except word exchanges.

If only the USA is so reckless to take over any of those islands, then it becomes direly dangerous for crossing China's redline!

Just sailing the CSG doesn't cross any China's redline... mostly the two sides just exchange the news headlines the USA with its burning showdown while China is busy with its construction in those islands and the world remains safe from the nuke armageddon, India is also safe.

We all should pray there won't be direct clash among the GIANTS: USA RUS CHN otherwise the mankind just say bye bye to the Planet Earth...

Keep my words, the USA at best is doing the chest-pumping showdown of sailing the CSG in the South China, nothing more than that, and it won't last longer than 6 months... unless some other nation wanna take the fleet operation bills ha ha
so don't be worry, no need to get anxious... everything remains the same, eat well, sleep tight


~~~~~~~ posted earlier ~~~~~~~
I wanna see how long and how intensive the US can maintain its "routine" patrol in the South China Sea by its CSG because the operating bills are not cheap, it's something that vaporizes into the thin air when such operation is not able to deter China from doing what it wanna do in those islands. So while China is getting something real in developing those islands the US will be simply burning out its resources...

Between the two largest giants they can't really risk for any direct military clash for the subsequent consequences may/will be unimaginably devastating, not only affecting the two heavily nuke armed nations but also the rest of the world!

Therefore as the USA has its usual chest-pumping showdown around the South China Sea, China --just like the sane and self-refraining Russia in Baltic Sea and Black Sea-- [regardless the words & headlines exchanges between the two] will just tolerate the high profile presence yet at the same time carries on its own business in developing those islands in the SCS.

So let's monitor together how long the US CSG patrol may sustain its cash burning there... who will have the longer endurance eventually

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Irrelevant. There is a first time for everything. We just want to prevent China from having that 'first time'.

Well, when the first time China reclaimed Islands in SCS, what US did to prevent that from happen?..don't you think what u just said is hilarious?

 

[rott]

i think US should focus more on ISIS and ME ... the mess that goes out of their hand , China and SCS is going nowhere , nor islands .. Chinese are there to stay while US will be there to Put pressure that's it .. the world need to focus more on Terrorism which is consuming more lives and destroying countries , ideologies and Civilizations .

@gambit, learn from professional post like this above post instead of posting professional BS.

It is like a comedy how these Chinese are pretending like nothing has happened

Why the professional orgasm after reading your masters professional BS?

 

[lonelyman]

Bro, concentrate on fake news CNN. China is beyond US scope.

CNN was, is and will always be very fake news, we knew it since 2000. Sadly the fact hits trump until now..

Taking a dump in the toilet is flexing muscle too. Cheap journalism and fanboy love to flex bowel muscle.

Excellent, actually which Americans in real life care about the South China Sea issue? Those American flags are known as Viets pretending to be whites

Whether it is once a month or once a yr is irrelevant. As long as one country is able to transit the SCS unmolested, other countries can and do it at any time. If China attack any non-US flagged ship when the US Navy is not in presence in the SCS, the US would surely make it more than once a month in the SCS.

All it takes it just one time...


The real bullshit is that China have no interests in the freedom of navigation in the SCS.

If the US say we have no interests in those little islands, everyone would believe.

But if China say you have no interests in the freedom of navigation principle in the SCS, everyone would laugh. Then they call the US.

you are a viet, why pretend to be a white?

 

[rott]

you are a viet, why pretend to be a white?

He's a white wannabe. The only thing white about him is his passport.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

As China flexes its military muscle in the South China Sea, the U.S. is responding with its own show of force that includes ships, fighter jets and submarines, as well as the test launch of nuclear-capable missiles.

According to internal military reports reviewed by NBC News, almost every week brings another display of U.S. hardware in the waters off China, in a response that has only grown more aggressive since the inauguration of President Trump.

A U.S. Navy carrier battle group centered on the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson is now moving through the South China Sea, the stretch of Pacific bounded by China, Vietnam and the Philippines.

Three attack submarines, the USS Alexandria, USS Chicago and USS Louisville, have deployed in the Western Pacific in the past month, and at least one has entered the South China Sea.

Also in February, the U.S. sent a dozen F-22 Raptor stealth fighters to Tindal AB in northern Australia, the closest Australian military airbase to China, for coalition training and exercises. It's the first deployment of that many F-22s in the Pacific.

And if that didn't get the attention of the Chinese government, the U.S. just tested four Trident II submarine-launched ballistic missiles during a nuclear war exercise, sending the simulated weapons 4,200 miles from the coast of California into the mid-Pacific. It's the first time in three years the U.S. has conducted tests in the Pacific, and the first four-missile salvo since the end of the Cold War.

The U.S. effort is deliberately broad and overt, according to Pentagon officials, and is meant to be obvious to the Chinese government.

Mark Lippert, the former U.S. ambassador to South Korea and deputy national security advisor during the Obama administration, said America is trying to send a message about freedom of navigation, "free and open commerce and [the] rule of law."

"You have to remember what is stake here is principles," Lippert told NBC in an interview. "Adhering to those principles has led to the unprecedented economic and democratic growth in the region. The Chinese are challenging our freedom of navigation."

In the last decade, China has converted dozens of tiny islands and coral outcroppings - many claimed by other countries — into forward military bases, adding airfields, piers and other facilities. The new bases range from the Paracel Islands in the northern part of the sea, claimed by Taiwan and Vietnam, to the Spratlys in the south near the Philippines and Malaysia. The construction, sometimes on reclaimed land, has extended China's defensive perimeter hundreds of miles from the mainland.

In January, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said during his confirmation hearings that the U.S. would block China's access to the disputed islands, and send a "clear signal" that "island-building stops."

Lu Kang, a senior official with the Chinese foreign ministry, told Richard Engel of NBC News that the islands were Chinese territory and China was free to do what it wanted.

Lippert says the Pentagon's recent actions are meant to checkmate any attempt by the Chinese to exploit any turmoil from the U.S. presidential transition, particularly one as dramatic as that from Obama to Trump.

"During a transition," he explained, "the Chinese and United States will test each other, feeling around a bit. Is the Obama policy, which has been fairly aggressive on protecting these principles, going to continue, or is there going to be change?

"What this says is that, for now, nothing has changed."

The recent operations are just the tip of the spear. An NBC News analysis of military movements in the region notes other major operations and basing decisions, including:

-- A new, continual bomber presence at Andersen AFB in Guam, after two decades of absence. Last fall, in fact, the U.S. deployed all three of its strategic bombers - the B-52, B-1 and B-2 - at Andersen. It was the first time all three were deployed to the Pacific.

-- Other transits of the South China Sea by U.S. warships and submarines, culminating with this winter's Vinson transit;

-- The build-up of modernized ballistic missile defense systems in South Korea and Japan as well as increased integration with the militaries of Japan and South Korea.

-- Increased port calls in Vietnam, Indonesia, the Philippines and Brunei, all countries that have challenged Chinese sovereignty over the islands and outcroppings in the region. The U.S. military presence in the Philippines is now bigger than it's been in 25 years.

-- An almost continual air and naval presence in Singapore, increasingly a major U.S. ally. The littoral combat ship USS Coronado has spent all of 2017 in and out of Singapore. It's the only forward-deployed ship of this new, futuristic class.

-- Deployment of the new F-35B Lightning II fifth-generation fighters at Iwakuni AB on the Japanese island of Okinawa. It's the first permanent deployment of the aircraft overseas.

While some of the operations are primarily prompted by North Korea's nuclear saber-rattling, all of them are meant to be noticed by Chinese authorities. A senior Navy officer told NBC News that the Trump administration had inherited the Obama "pivot" to Asia. "This is a perfect example of how routine can stay routine or be a flash point for greater tension," the officer said.

On Tuesday, the Chinese Foreign Ministry acknowledged the USS Vinson's patrol.

"China always respects the freedom of navigation and overflight of all countries in the South China Sea in accordance with international law," said Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang.

"But we oppose those who threaten and harm the sovereignty and security of coastal countries under the pretext of freedom of navigation and overflight."

The Chinese, of course, have not been inactive. On February 10, U.S. and Chinese military planes had what the Pentagon describes as "an unsafe close encounter" near Scarborough Shoal in the South China Sea. A war of words ensued.

There have also been joint Chinese-Russian naval exercises in recent months. On Tuesday, Reuters reported that the Peoples Liberation Army has nearly finished building two dozen structures on three atolls in the Spratly Islands that U.S. military analysts believe could house surface-to-air missiles, a dramatic uptick in capability.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-flexes-its-military-muscle-china-n724911

I thought US-China cold war was cancelled.

 

[Srinivas]

@gambit, learn from professional post like this above post instead of posting professional BS.



Why the professional orgasm after reading your masters professional BS?

You need know the history dude, India opposed USA most of the times, even during Vietnam war.

Your post is your fantasy!