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US: *flex*
China: Nice!
US: *flex*
China: Good!
US: *flex*
China: Awesome!

And while US is pouring money into flexing, China is using its budget for R&D and building ships.

Keep flexing pal.

Their flexing is very much like stuffing a bear doll with more fluffy stuff. At the end of the day, outside reality remains the same -- that it is just a puffy bear with little biting capability against near equal competition.

Besides, US flexing is getting old and looking uglier as its overall capability declines. Think of puffed up Schwarzenegger at the age of 70.

Just like that.
 
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Yeah sure, we have all seen how the U.S. fights in the ME, where you lost Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen and Syria to Iran half laying down. :sarcastic:

Iran not impressed with DARPA or the U.S. military. Thanks for the amateur show and effort.

Yes, we will. But what make you think we cannot do both ? China do not have anything even halfway resembling DARPA.
 
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Funny thing is that the US administration and general populace feel Muslims are the biggest threat to western civilization yet they want to name China as the boogeyman.

Not a smart idea.

Neither Muslims nor China are their enemy .. its just trick to keep US involved in some sort of WAR to keep the weapon Industry making billions of dollars ,and than there is Oil flowing everywhere ..
US needs to focus on how to defeat ISIS, Stable Iraq and Syria , take care of their Economy , and most important as Trump say put American interest first ..
China is growing and keep Growing, same as American's try to be world police and they will keep doing so no matter what anyone say to them .. its best for two giants to resolve their matters and move on together, and because of such big alliance small regional Countries can get prosperity ..
 
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CNN was, is and will always be very fake news, we knew it since 2000. Sadly the fact hits trump until now..


Excellent:rofl::rofl::rofl:, actually which Americans in real life care about the South China Sea issue? Those American flags are known as Viets pretending to be whites :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:



you are a viet, why pretend to be a white?
The real White Americans care nothing about the South China Sea, for them it's a far away sea that has nothing to do with their lives! They do not want to shed any blood for that irrelevant cause! For the White American, this South China Sea issue is a farce!

How to say about the pretense of being White? Possibly it's some psychological childhood regret for not being born as White, a kind of self-denial complex, or represents some inferior complex denying one's own nature. This manifestation is a troubling psyche that will affect one's whole life the entire lifetime unless one is able to mend it.
 
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The real White Americans care nothing about the South China Sea, for them it's a far away sea that has nothing to do with their lives! They do not want to shed any blood for that irrelevant cause! For the White American, this South China Sea issue is a farce!

How to say about the pretense of being White? Possibly it's some psychological childhood regret for not being born as White, a kind of self-denial complex, or represents some inferior complex denying one's own nature. This manifestation is a troubling psyche that will affect one's whole life the entire lifetime unless one is able to mend it.
To understand Caucasian mentality study the real history of the Muslim conquest of Europe.

 
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USN wouldn't last 2 minutes against Iran. 100's of thousands of anti ship missiles will slam into their garbage floating crap they call a navy........What to speak of a fight with the PLAN or the Russians.
Iran is having mercy on them, for now, because Iran uses them in SyRaq against its rivals, however, if this Drumpf starts misbehaving, then Iran will take action. These hillbilly understand this reality very well and toe a fine line in the Persian Gulf. Any time Iran see them fall out of line, the IRGC navy treats them like a bunch of refugee trespassers.:laugh:
 
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Chinese state councillor to visit U.S.
2017-02-27 08:54 | Xinhua | Editor: Gu Liping

Chinese State Councillor Yang Jiechi will visit the United States from Monday to Tuesday at the invitation of the U.S. government, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lu Kang announced on Sunday.

Yang will exchange views with senior U.S. officials on bilateral ties and issues of common concern, Lu said.

Yang is the first senior Chinese official to visit the U.S. since President Donald Trump took office on January 20.

President Xi Jinping and Trump had spoken over the phone earlier this month. Foreign Minister Wang Yi and his U.S. counterpart Rex Tillerson met in the sidelines of the foreign ministers meeting of the G20 last week.

Yang will have an extensive range of topics to discuss with the U.S. officials but the foremost would be to reaffirm the tone of bilateral relations set by the two heads of state in their phone conversation, said Jia Xiudong, a research fellow with the China Institute of International Studies.

Xi told Trump that building a sound China-U.S. relationship is in the fundamental interests of the two peoples, and it is also the responsibility China and the U.S. need to assume as the world's major countries.

Yang's visit will coincide with the 45th anniversary of President Richard Nixon's ice-breaking visit to China in 1972, which paved the way for Beijing and Washington to officially establish diplomatic ties in 1979.

Despite twists and turns over the past four decades, China-U.S. relations have progressed ahead as both the Republican and Democratic parties understand the importance of the relationship, Jia said.

During Yang's tour, China and U.S. will have exchanges on trade, security and international issues, on which Trump may take policies different from the Obama administration, according to Jia.

Jia said Yang would be the point man to be sent to the U.S.. He was a former Chinese ambassador to Washington and former foreign minister, a respectable diplomat in the U.S. and has rich experience in dealing with the country.

Xi-Trump meeting will be on top agenda of Yang and U.S. officials, who are to discuss when and where the two heads of state will meet as they looked forward to a meeting at an early date in their phone conversation, according to Jia.

Nuclear issue on the Korean Peninsula, climate change, energy and Syria are also possible to be on the agenda, Jia said.
 
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China, U.S. agree to enhance all-level exchanges, broaden cooperation
2017-03-01 08:38 | Xinhua | Editor: Gu Liping

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Visiting Chinese State Councilor Yang Jiechi (L) shakes hands with U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson during their meeting in Washington D.C., the United States, on Feb. 28, 2017. (Xinhua/Yin Bogu)

China and the U.S. on Tuesday expressed the willingness to enhance dialogues and exchanges on all levels with an aim to broaden cooperation in regional and global affairs.

The two sides reaffirmed the pledge during a meeting between U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and visiting Chinese State Councilor Yang Jiechi.

Yang noted that during the phone conversation held not long ago between Chinese President Xi Jinping and his U.S. counterpart Donald Trump, the two sides agreed to make joint efforts to achieve greater results in further developing the China-U.S. ties.

Yang said that, through implementing the consensus reached by the two presidents and upholding the principles of non-conflict, non-confrontation, mutual respect and win-win cooperation, China is willing to work with the U.S. in the next stage to enhance exchanges on all levels from top down, deepen dialogues and mutual cooperation in all areas, broaden communication and coordination on regional and global issues, and respect each other's core interests and major concerns.

This will help promote sustained, steady and healthy development of the China-U.S. relations, which will benefit the peoples of not only both nations but also the whole world, the senior Chinese official added.

For his part, Tillerson said that the two presidents have set a positive tone for the development of the bilateral relations.

The U.S. is willing to work together with China to look at the bilateral ties from a broader angle, strengthen bilateral high-level dialogues and exchanges, continue to expand the scope of cooperation in all areas, and properly handle sensitive issues through consultation and coordination.

Thus, the two sides could ensure smoother development of the bilateral ties and make greater contribution to promoting regional and global peace and prosperity.

Before meeting Tillerson, Yang had already met with Trump, Vice President Mike Pence, Senior Advisor to the President Jared Kushner, White House chief strategist Steve Bannon and National Security Advisor Herbert Raymond McMaster, to discuss how to promote the China-U.S. ties and other issues of mutual concern.


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The big two will take care of their own interests.
If other small countries need to be sacrificed, so be it.
This is the harsh reality.
 
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High-end manufacturing is not leaving China for US: economist
By Xing Xue (People's Daily) March 08, 2017

The high-end manufacturing is not leaving China, a renowned Chinese economist said in a contributed article published on People's Daily Overseas Edition, refuting the claims that high-end manufacturing is flowing back to the US.

The comments came after the "Buy American Hire American" pledge of the new US administration recently fueled the assertion that high-end manufacturing is flowing back to the US from China.

Hu Angang, also Director of Center for China Studies of Tsinghua University, pointed out that as the largest export country of manufactured goods, especially high-tech products, China has also set up a manufacturing system with the most complete product line and supporting production facilities.

China's share in global manufacturing market is now increasing, he said, explaining that its high-tech export percentage in the world has grown to 19.5 percent in 2015 from 3.0 percent in 2000, whereas the percentage of the US dropped from 16.8 percent to 9.5 percent during the same period.

A New York Times piece pointed out that whether in terms of labor structure or government investment, the US is not ready for the reflux of the manufacturing industry. Against the background of shortage in technical workers and rising labor cost, the world is now watching if US enterprises may conduct another round of global allocation.

So far, China has completed the "1+X" framework of the Made in 2025 strategy. Hu believes such move indicates that the top level design of the strategy has been basically finished.

"It is leading the general direction of China's manufacturing industry, which is to develop from made in China to created in China, from speed-oriented to quality-centered, from product-focused to brand-concentrated, from polluted and energy-consumed industries to green industries, and from Chinese enterprises to transnational and even global industries," the economist added.

Hu, in the article, also urged China's manufacturing industry to improve its innovation capacity at first.

Based on the concepts of "intelligent manufacturing " and "Internet plus", the industry should advance structural upgrade and competiveness improvement to seize a new highland in the world, he suggested.

Furthermore, along with the "Belt and Road" construction, China's manufacturing industry should also place equal emphasis on "going global" and "bringing in" , he advised, adding that the supply of high-level talents should be increased to boost the quality of the industry.
 
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China's share in global manufacturing market is now increasing, he said, explaining that its high-tech export percentage in the world has grown to 19.5 percent in 2015 from 3.0 percent in 2000, whereas the percentage of the US dropped from 16.8 percent to 9.5 percent during the same period.

It's not just about manufacturing they r losing, but the expertise, the unspeakable knowledge and experiences gained from years of work in manufacturing......
Once lost, such expertise can never be regained.
 
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It's not just about manufacturing they r losing, but the expertise, the unspeakable knowledge and experiences gained from years of work in manufacturing......
Once lost, such expertise can never be regained.

This is true.

Also, this is the reason why China should defend its bottom plank.

If assembly jobs go to South East Asia, the components and other stuff would be next.

You should allow temporary South East Asian workers in the country for the assembly jobs, which still require a lot of labor.
 
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It's not just about manufacturing they r losing, but the expertise, the unspeakable knowledge and experiences gained from years of work in manufacturing......
Once lost, such expertise can never be regained.

As of 2015, over 30% of China's exports were high tech exports (as defined by the World Bank) which makes about 500$ billion USD, or one third of China's total export.

How much of this is indigenous content is the BIG question. Increasing the indigenous/domestic content in this high-end export is the big challenge.

As you say, this is a process of accumulation of knowledge and expertise, which takes time. It is a learning process. Of course, China's relative gain means their relative loss.

China needs really more and more aggressive, R&D-oriented entrepreneurs.
 
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