China to have 4 aircraft carriers, 18 Type 055 destroyers, and 300 J-20 by 2025

[Viet]

Go fuxk off... idiot.
What is the range of this shix??? Can it even fly out of your border??? LMAO....
How many you have got???
And again, if you dare to fire one, you are welcome... we will fire you 1000... We just need an excuse to wipe you jungle out of the map.
And my advice to you: DO NOT show your stupid little missiles in front of us, otherwise, your get humiliated every time:

Relax no need to jump off the window!
Actual we fight our enemies by every means, even by bambus and chopsticks. Weapons are just secondary. Winning requires high IQ. If the PLA has low IQer like you, they are hopeless.

VN army trains to increase IQ, while CN trains to get more weapons. See the difference? That explains why you lost nearly all wars despite accumulating weapons after weapons.

If we hadn’t assisted you in fighting the northern invaders during the Ming, you probably ended up today as slaves. Be thankful to us.

 

[Kai Liu]

Relax no need to jump off the window!
Actual we fight our enemies by every means, even by bambus and chopsticks. Weapons are just secondary. Winning requires high IQ. If the PLA has low IQer like you, they are hopeless.

VN army trains to increase IQ, while CN trains to get more weapons. See the difference? That explains why you lost nearly all wars despite accumulating weapons after weapons.

If we hadn’t assisted you in fighting the northern invaders during the Ming, you probably ended up today as slaves. Be thankful to us.

Lost all wars??? Are you talking about yourself? Ask your American daddy in Korea, your soviet daddy in Zhenbao Island, also Your indian daddy, and your jungle which were burned to ash by PLA...
Ming dynasty?? You were our slaves then. Weren't you? You useless jungle been our slaves for the past 2000 years before your French daddy came, and 'shake hand' with your Japanese daddy within a week...
Now go fuxk yourself with your jungle IQ shxt...

 

[Viet]

Keep dreaming you idiot... Your jungle IQ can not even make a rifle... Without supplies of soviet and China, your are piece of shit who want to kill US planes by throwing stones and sink US carriers by swimming... Jungle IQ? What a joke!
Lost all wars??? Are you talking about yourself? Ask your American daddy in Korea, your soviet daddy in Zhenbao Island, also Your indian daddy, and your jungle which were burned to ash by PLA...
Ming dynasty?? You were our slaves then. Weren't you? You useless jungle been our slaves for the past 2000 years before your French daddy came, and 'shake hand' with your Japanese daddy within a week...
Now go fuxk yourself with your jungle IQ shxt...

Pls spare me of your yellow racism!

Japan attacking Vietnam because the Japanese wanted to cut off supplies from Vietnam to China. Seeking allies and supplies abroad is nothing unusual. Why do you repeat such trivial things hundreds times? USSR received lots of supplies by the allies at the first years of the war. Otherwise the Red army could not withstand the immense losses against the Nazi.

Without supplies by Vietnam in the first years, how could the chinese army have fought the Japanese in the war of attrition?

As burning to ashes, in the war of chinese aggression against Vietnam in 1979, you forgot USSR nuclear missiles that aimed at mainland China. Yes, you were burnt to ashes.

Your racism makes you too stupid!

 

[Kai Liu]

Pls spare me of your yellow racism!

Japan attacking Vietnam because the Japanese wanted to cut off supplies from Vietnam to China. Seeking allies and supplies abroad is nothing unusual. Why do you repeat such trivial things hundreds times? USSR received lots of supplies by the allies at the first years of the war. Otherwise the Red army could not withstand the immense losses against the Nazi.

Without supplies by Vietnam in the first years, how could the chinese army have fought the Japanese in the war of attrition?

Supplies by vn??? Are you talking jokes here or you mean supplies from other countries passing through vn???

And stop making comparison to put you little jungle at the height of soviet and China... Sure, both soviet union and China received foreign supplies from our allies, but unlike vn, which could make nothing...ZERO..

The infantry weapons and some artillery like machine guns, rifles etc. mortars, mountain guns, etc were made by our own factories like Hanyang arsenal etc:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_military_equipment_in_World_War_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanyang_Arsenal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiyuan_Arsenal

Even in the Qing Dynasty in 19th century, our weakest period in history, we produced our own battle cruisers and rifle, guns, connons etc. all kinds of weapons..With those weapons, the imperialists could not make us their colony like they did to vietnam, but robbed some treasures and got small piece of land like HK and TW during our weakest time in late Qing dynasty...

Mawei shipyard made tens of warships during that period:
http://www.sohu.com/a/135849683_670548

Production shop of Jiangnan arsenal:

http://m.sohu.com/a/299014066_120045298
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiangnan_Shipyard

You see? This is the difference between intelligent people and your primitive ones with jungle IQ....

 

[Viet]

Trivial things?? Sorry, no... But you got no other choice as a little piece of slave land with no industry..... Supplies by vn??? Are you talking jokes here or you mean supplies from other countries passing through vn???

And stop make comparison to put you little jungle at the height of soviet and China... Sure, both soviet union and China receive foreign supplies from our allies, but unlike vn, which could make nothing...ZERO..

The infantry weapons and some artillery like machine guns, rifles etc. mortars, mountain guns, etc are made by our own factories like Hanyang arsenal etc:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_military_equipment_in_World_War_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanyang_Arsenal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiyuan_Arsenal

Even in the Qing Dynasty, our weakest period in history, we produced our own battle cruisers and rifle, guns, connons etc. all kinds of weapons..With those weapons, the imperialists could not make us their colony like they did to vietnam, but rob some treasures and get small piece of land like HK and TW during our weakest time in late Qing dynasty...

Mawei shipyard made tens of warships during that period:

Production shop of Jiangnan arsenal:

http://m.sohu.com/a/299014066_120045298
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiangnan_Shipyard

You see? This is the difference between intelligent people and your primitive ones with jungle IQ....

Keep your yellow racism to yourself!

Ok where your warships after the battle with Japan navy?

You know the answer!

As piece of shit, why hundreds thousands if not millions of your ancestors aka chinese refugees coming to Vietnam after the collapse of the Ming and other periods?

Where did the most chinese settlers today in Malaysia, Indonesia and other parts of ASEAN come from?

Hoian, a town in central Viet Nam

 

[Kai Liu]

Ok where your warships after the battle with Japan navy?

You know the answer!

I already told you this was in our weakest time, but if without warships, every country can make your entire country slaves like they did to vn, does not even need a war... But for jap at that time, because the war, its country was stretched out and run empty, so they just robed TW, could not do any further, even during our weakest time...

As burning to ashes, in the war of chinese aggression against Vietnam in 1979, you forgot USSR nuclear missiles that aimed at mainland China. Yes, you were burnt to ashes.

Your racism makes you too stupid!

USSR is the history, No one were burnt to ashes except you... lol...

Keep your yellow racism to yourself!

Ok where your warships after the battle with Japan navy?

You know the answer!

As piece of shit, why hundreds thousands if not millions of your ancestors aka chinese refugees coming to Vietnam after the collapse of the Ming and other periods?

Where did the most chinese settlers today in Malaysia, Indonesia and other parts of ASEAN come from?

Hoian, a town in central Viet Nam

Who told you Chinese in SE Asian are from vn??? A lot of them get their with Admiral Zheng He.

 

[Kai Liu]

weakest times?

you low Iq and your lame excuses!

The Qing probably had the biggest landmass in history. Japan is nothing in comparison.

The French was after England the second biggest imperial power in history, having the most powerful land army in Europe, their warships were numerous. However the French needed nearly 40 years to conquer Vietnam.

The early period of Qing was strong, but the late Qing dynasty was weak, this is common sense. But anyway, it is all history, today with world's 3rd largest thermal megatons, we dont care about this history shxt...

And about French, we handed over you low IQ jungle slaves to them after this war:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-French_War

 

[KAL-EL]

@waz Please check at your convenience for blatant racism.

 

[UKBengali]

lol...This bangla bumpkin is so hilarious.... Cruise missile is very hard to intercept... While ballistic missiles can be intercepted at your will.. WTF logics is that....lol...
And your master's little few ships and subs dare to get close to our coast to mess up our DFs??? lol... Our carriers, 100 frigates, 30 DDGs, 70 subs, 1,000 missile boats, 3,000 war planes including J20s, numerous drones, and numerous land based attacking weapons, will kill every single ship/sub/aircraft of your master ... Your master's few little ships is piece of shxt in front of them... Even your master's master dare not to mess up with...

Not to mention our J20s can be on our carriers within minutes make all your B.S. irrelevant...

And how many DF26D/21Ds we have??? Hilarious question from a bumpkin again... With our immense immense industrial power, such missiles keep rolling out of production line like making sausages... We have such missiles more than enough to kill 10 times the number of carriers your master has got... And again, our ASBMs are not make for your master, your mater's two little carriers are not even on our eyes... These killers are made for your master's master, the US navy.

Can we please cut out the personal attacks as this does not help the discussion?

So China cannot deploy it’s whole Navy against UK as they will have to guard the Chinese coastline against UK SSNs sneaking close to attack their DF-26D sites? That is exactly what the UK wants. This means it will be easier to destroy the fleet you send out to face the UK as it will be smaller.
Just like your DF-26D will complicate matters for UK, their subs will complicate things for you as well. UK in this case need never fire a single cruise missile at your DF-26Ds to weaken the fleet they will have to face.

Again you cannot put the J-20 onto a carrier immediately as the pilots need to be trained, the fcs needs to be modified and the landing gear and airframe needs to be strengthened. The WS-10B engines also will be damaged by saltwater - the WS-10H on your J-15s were specially modified to survive in saltwater environment.

UK carriers are not tiny as they are 70,000 tonnes in size and can carry 50 aircraft in total, including 36 F-35Bs.

lol at making DF-26Ds like sausages. You may have say 100 missiles in stock but it will take weeks if not many months before you can produce any more - by this time most of your Navy will be at the bottom of the ocean.

 

[Han Patriot]

Keep your yellow racism to yourself!

Ok where your warships after the battle with Japan navy?

You know the answer!

As piece of shit, why hundreds thousands if not millions of your ancestors aka chinese refugees coming to Vietnam after the collapse of the Ming and other periods?

Where did the most chinese settlers today in Malaysia, Indonesia and other parts of ASEAN come from?

Hoian, a town in central Viet Nam

Because it's an easily exppoitable land woth lazy and low iq natives. That's why!

 

[waz]

@Kai Liu can you please not abuse people when you reply.

 

[Han Patriot]

Can we please cut out the personal attacks as this does help the discussion?

So China cannot deploy it’s whole Navy against UK as they will have to guard the Chinese coastline against UK SSNs sneaking close to attack their DF-26D sites? That is exactly what the UK wants. This means it will be easier to destroy the fleet you send out to face the UK as it will be smaller.
Just like your DF-26D will complicate matters for UK, their subs will complicate things for you as well. UK in this case need never fire a single cruise missile at your DF-26Ds to weaken the fleet they will have to face.

Again you cannot put the J-20 onto a carrier immediately as the pilots need to be trained, the fcs needs to be modified and the landing gear and airframe needs to be strengthened. The WS-10B engines also will be damaged by saltwater - the WS-10H on your J-15s were specially modified to survive in saltwater environment.

UK carriers are not tiny as they are 70,000 tonnes in size and can carry 50 aircraft in total, including 36 F-35Bs.

lol at making DF-26Ds like sausages. You may have say 100 missiles in stock but it will take weeks if not many months before you can produce any more - by this time most of your Navy will be at the bottom of the ocean.

Seriously aircraft carriers are useless in a war witb China, it will sink. You know how many Yaogans are there? 30 plus sigint optical radar and 50 plus beidous plus videosats with AI image recognition , it's a system designed specifically to track large naval vessels and sunk using DF-26 missiles. It's within current Chinese tech, not future or an IF. US and UK knows this, lastest analysis is US and allies will lose a war within first island chain. I cannot confirm for IOR because it's streched out fr our core area.

 

[UKBengali]

Seriously aircraft carriers are useless in a war witb China, it will sink. You know how many Yaogans are there? 30 plus sigint optical radar and 50 plus beidous plus videosats with AI image recognition , it's a system designed specifically to track large naval vessels and sunk using DF-26 missiles. It's within current Chinese tech, not future or an IF. US and UK knows this, lastest analysis is US and allies will lose a war within first island chain. I cannot confirm for IOR because it's streched out fr our core area.

I am talking about a war between UK and PLAN out in the open ocean.
This started out as myself and a Chinese poster disagreed on whether the UK or PLAN was the 2nd most powerful Navy in the world right now.
Strictly the DF-26D should not even come into play here.

Yes China would win within the 1st Island Chain even against USA as it could bring the full might of it’s land based assets into play.

 

[Kai Liu]

Can we please cut out the personal attacks as this does help the discussion?

So China cannot deploy it’s whole Navy against UK as they will have to guard the Chinese coastline against UK SSNs sneaking close to attack their DF-26D sites? That is exactly what the UK wants. This means it will be easier to destroy the fleet you send out to face the UK as it will be smaller.
Just like your DF-26D will complicate matters for UK, their subs will complicate things for you as well. UK in this case need never fire a single cruise missile at your DF-26Ds to weaken the fleet they will have to face.

Again you cannot put the J-20 onto a carrier immediately as the pilots need to be trained, the fcs needs to be modified and the landing gear and airframe needs to be strengthened. The WS-10B engines also will be damaged by saltwater - the WS-10H on your J-15s were specially modified to survive in saltwater environment.

UK carriers are not tiny as they are 70,000 tonnes in size and can carry 50 aircraft in total, including 36 F-35Bs.

lol at making DF-26Ds like sausages. You may have say 100 missiles in stock but it will take weeks if not many months before you can produce any more - by this time most of your Navy will be at the bottom of the ocean.

lol... your argument of letting your 3 subs to attack our ASBMs are just hilarious...If your 3 subs dare to come close to our coastline, what you face is not just our navy, but also our air force, our land force, our entire military... We kill your 3 subs like squash a little fly, even with just 1% of our strength... And why not put our navy to guard our DF-26Ds, DF-21Ds, YJ-100s, etc. etc., as they can kill your aircraft carriers within minutes and render your navy useless...

As for the number of DF21Ds/DF26Ds, their total costs are just 20 million USD each, 1/1000 of the price for a carrier... We can easily have thousands in stock...

BTW, your B.S. about our J20s are just hilarious... We have all the technology to strengthen the structure and build saltwater proof engines for J15, why not J20 if needed??? J20s on our carriers are just an added bonus, even without them, your entire navy will just be killed by our ASBMs and YJ-100s one by one within minutes...

 

[UKBengali]

lol... your argument of letting your 3 subs to attack our ASBMs are just hilarious...If your 3 subs dare to come close to our coastline, what you face is not just our navy, but also our air force, our land force, our entire military... We kill your 3 subs like squash a little fly, even with just 1% of our strength... And why not put our navy to guard our DF-26Ds, DF-21Ds, YJ-100s, etc. etc., as they can kill your aircraft carriers within minutes and render your navy useless...

As for the number of DF21Ds/DF26Ds, their total costs are just 20 million USD each, 1/1000 of the price for a carrier... We can easily have thousands in stock...

BTW, your B.S. about our J20s are just hilarious... We have all the technology to strengthen the structure and build saltwater proof engines for J15, why not J20 if needed??? J20s on our carriers are just an added bonus, even without them, your entire navy will just be killed by our ASBMs and YJ-100s one by one within minutes...

Do you even read what I write and think before you post back?

Just the possibility of UK SSNs attacking your DF-26D launch sites would mean that you would need to hold substantial navy forces back to defend your coasts. Tomahawk Block 4 has 1600km range and so they can still be 1000km away from your coastline and still attack your ASBMs.
You airforce and land-forces are irrelevant against SSNs anyway and so no need to bring them in here.

China is unlikely to keep more than 100 or say 200 at most DF-26Ds in stock as it will be wasteful building a thousand of these as they may never ever be used. China like all countries cannot waste 10s of billions on the just in case scenario.

You think as soon as there is a war between China and UK, the J-20s can be put on the carriers and sail out with them without the modifications, testing and training? One more thing how will they even communicate with the K-8AEW helicopters as the two will most probably use different data links?

Please actually address my points before posting the same response again.