China slowly becoming a player in Arab Israel conflict

[kuge]

That is according to propaganda from Hamas. There is no evidence so called the invasion and genocide/mass murder.

The fact is it is Arab world that wage war against Israel, and keep fighting Israel, reject negotiation, peace and acknowledge Israel as a country.

See this video.

Palestine-Israel conflict can't be a good card for China to play, because it is not Israel that starting attack and terorize Arab/Hamas, but the other way round.
@Song Hong @tower9

it is a fact the PLO & hamas used palestinian civilians as human shield in the conflicts with israel.
it is also a fact they want no peace deals to fund their personal life styles

 

[Song Hong]

it is a fact the PLO & hamas used palestinian civilians as human shield in the conflicts with israel.
it is also a fact they want no peace deals to fund their personal life styles

Deploying local human shield in particularly women and children will see your legitimacy and support drop to zero.

This must be Western media fake news.

 

[Nan Yang]

it is a fact the PLO & hamas used palestinian civilians as human shield in the conflicts with israel.
it is also a fact they want no peace deals to fund their personal life styles

Not entirely true. "Using civilians as human shield" is a Western narrative.
What is closer to the truth is they are hiding among civilian population with support from the civilian. This has always occur throughout history of warfare. During WW2, resistance in France also hid among civilian population. For any resistance it would be suicidal to be out in the open to be immediately bomb and killed. Which is what Israeli want.

 

[mike2000 is back]

China can't do shit in the middle east... they just felt threatened by the U.S so they thought hey let's support arabs this time.
plus , we don't want a 2 state solution , it's only 1 state , the state of Palestine.

I find it funny that some Chinese members here really believe they can change much in this issue. Especially by playing both sides with the so called two state solution(which is something many other country already agree with anyway lol), so don't see anything new they are proposing . Lol Well, guess it's better for then to make some statements here and there to show they are doing something somehow. However they can't change much on the ground to be honest. Plus as you said groups like Hamas want a one state for Palestine ideally, so don't see what the Chinese are talking about anyway.
The Israel Palestinian issue goes far deeper than they can even understand . For one the CCP isn't even religious so will be difficult for then to understand the feelings of the Palestinians and Israelis over the region/Jerusalem issue and how it affects this conflict. This is a conflict that has been going on for centuries and is so complicated.
CCP should focus more on the Pacific/South China Sea and its border issue with other like India and the US massive presence in the region with its allies surrounding them.

 

[maverick1977]

it is a fact the PLO & hamas used palestinian civilians as human shield in the conflicts with israel.
it is also a fact they want no peace deals to fund their personal life styles

rofl ! i see you have been hammered again and again with the irrational mantra. You are repeating the mantra like a TV news reporter.
how about u sitdown take some deep breather for a min and think it through the possibilities and get back to this forum if your neurons have fired up. Good luck..

 

[Total Destruction]

I find it funny that some Chinese members here really believe they can change much in this issue. Especially by playing both sides with the so called two state solution(which is something many other country already agree with anyway lol), so don't see anything new they are proposing . Lol Well, guess it's better for then to make some statements here and there to show they are doing something somehow. However they can't change much on the ground to be honest. Plus as you said groups like Hamas want a one state for Palestine ideally, so don't see what the Chinese are talking about anyway.
The Israel Palestinian issue goes far deeper than they can even understand . For one the CCP isn't even religious so will be difficult for then to understand the feelings of the Palestinians and Israelis over the region/Jerusalem issue and how it affects this conflict. This is a conflict that has been going on for centuries and is so complicated.
CCP should focus more on the Pacific/South China Sea and its border issue with other like India and the US massive presence in the region with its allies surrounding them.

Correct.

We can't trust a regime or a country that plays on both sides, plus, we all know the relation between China and Israel and how israel sold the j-10 design (lavi plane) to china plus it already wanted to sell El/m 2080 early warning radar to china but the U.S refused so, not to mention the uav tech.

we already experienced the states that plays on both sides and we don't wanna re-witness that .. Israelis will never accept a 2 state solution , absorbing land day after day and you want them to accept the 2 states!.

China can do us a favor tho , let them face the U.S in an open combat while we take down israel ( if they have the balls to do so).

 

[925boy]

I be very surprise how China can resolve this decades long issue.

well tbh, the main ingredient needed is probably fairness and impartiality....thats what US lacked this whole time, and thats why US couldnt "solve" this problem on its own. Russia or/and CHina could definitely make alot more progress on this conflict than US could, at hte minimum.

 

[OIO]

I find it funny that some Chinese members here really believe they can change much in this issue. Especially by playing both sides with the so called two state solution(which is something many other country already agree with anyway lol), so don't see anything new they are proposing . Lol Well, guess it's better for then to make some statements here and there to show they are doing something somehow. However they can't change much on the ground to be honest. Plus as you said groups like Hamas want a one state for Palestine ideally, so don't see what the Chinese are talking about anyway.
The Israel Palestinian issue goes far deeper than they can even understand . For one the CCP isn't even religious so will be difficult for then to understand the feelings of the Palestinians and Israelis over the region/Jerusalem issue and how it affects this conflict. This is a conflict that has been going on for centuries and is so complicated.
CCP should focus more on the Pacific/South China Sea and its border issue with other like India and the US massive presence in the region with its allies surrounding them.

Will not solve the problem in the short term, but don't you feel that the balance has changed?

 

[antonius123]

I find it funny that some Chinese members here really believe they can change much in this issue. Especially by playing both sides with the so called two state solution(which is something many other country already agree with anyway lol), so don't see anything new they are proposing . Lol Well, guess it's better for then to make some statements here and there to show they are doing something somehow. However they can't change much on the ground to be honest. Plus as you said groups like Hamas want a one state for Palestine ideally, so don't see what the Chinese are talking about anyway.
The Israel Palestinian issue goes far deeper than they can even understand . For one the CCP isn't even religious so will be difficult for then to understand the feelings of the Palestinians and Israelis over the region/Jerusalem issue and how it affects this conflict. This is a conflict that has been going on for centuries and is so complicated.
CCP should focus more on the Pacific/South China Sea and its border issue with other like India and the US massive presence in the region with its allies surrounding them.

Agree with you.

Arab will never stop waging war against Israel, until Israel wiped out from middle east. I dont think any super power either US, China, Russia can change this determination. China' involvement will only be used to pressurize Israel or changing the balance of power that perhaps benefit Arab/Palestine; but peace will not happen.

Will not solve the problem in the short term, but don't you feel that the balance has changed?

How the balance has changed?

From the past China already contra US in the Israel-Palestine issue; now if China play as a peace maker, China should be shiftting her stand from supporting Palestine to a little bit neutral, otherwise how China can play as mediator if one party do not trust China because of being one sided?

 

[OIO]

How the balance has changed?

From the past China already contra US in the Israel-Palestine issue; now if China play as a peace maker, China should be shiftting her stand from supporting Palestine to a little bit neutral, otherwise how China can play as mediator if one party do not trust China because of being one sided?

As far as I know about the Chinese government, this time it’s not just talking about it, there will be substantial actions.

Step by step, a comprehensive plan will be gradually revealed to the world.

 

[antonius123]

As far as I know about the Chinese government, this time it’s not just talking about it, there will be substantial actions.

Step by step, a comprehensive plan will be gradually revealed to the world.

Step actions that China can do is giving "sanctions" to Israel, either economic or military sanctions. But that means China can't play role as a peace maker.

I dont think China will take any military action against Israel, because it means war with other major power, and China doesnt think it worth it.

So the best China can do is economic sanctions. The question is: how severe the impact of economic sanction from China on Israel? will Israel give up their occupation territory given the economic sanctions?

 

[tower9]

Step actions that China can do is giving "sanctions" to Israel, either economic or military sanctions. But that means China can't play role as a peace maker.

I dont think China will take any military action against Israel, because it means war with other major power, and China doesnt think it worth it.

So the best China can do is economic sanctions. The question is: how severe the impact of economic sanction from China on Israel? will Israel give up their occupation territory given the economic sanctions?

China will gradually become a decisive player in the Middle East but this will come into fruition probably 20 years from now. Emotional outbursts are not the Chinese way. Long term strategy and planning are. China is already changing the balance of power in the region and developing a plan for the region. It will be revealed in steps through the next two decades and will come into fruition as China becomes the world's largest economy and leading technological power.

 

[Song Hong]

Sima Nan published a furry of youtube against Israel. Now it is on the wall. China is going after Israel.

You can treat Sima Nan as yet another crypto mouthpiece of CPC.

 

[silverox]

Palestine is a concept made by the United States and the Soviet Union. There are no Palestinians. They are all Arabs. I suggest that current Palestinians can choose to join neighboring Arab countries, such as Jordan or Syria, the UAE, and Egypt. In fact, Arafat himself was an Egyptian, and he was used by the Egyptian intelligence organization to cause chaos in Israel. Palestine has become a tool for kidnapping the Palestinian people for profit, and the two-state solution cannot be realized at all because the Palestinians have no power. The real solution is to abolish the false man-made concept of Palestine and return the Arabs to Arab countries. I believe that Arab countries are also tired of the Palestine issue. This is why Trump has achieved diplomatic victory in the Middle East. Arabs now account for 20% of the Israeli population, and the future of Israel must be a semi-Arab country.

 

[Mohammed al-Faruqi]

China actively pursues a policy of extermination against the Uyghurs, one that is far worse in its methods in many ways than what Israel does. Palestinians don't need genocidal racists as allies against genocidal racists.

Same goes to Iran's terror regime and it's minions, who seek to humanise the victims of the Palestinian cause, in order to use it as a pawn. While actively dehumanise the Syrian victims of the Assad regime.

The mass murder, and displacement of Syrians today is similar to Palestine Nakba, and the Assadist state does not belong to a world far from the racist Zionist, rather two sides of the same coin.

Simply, you're either with justice everywhere or not at all, it’s not a buffet where you can pick and choose.