What's new

China ready to cede land for part of Arunachal Pradesh?

.
Try these stupid rants on some one else.

it sound stupid for Indian but If China decide to clear a single tiny of the Himalaya and let Monsoon cross the Tibet like 50 million years ago then India will be over: Not only we will recover our Taklimakan desert with water from monsoon but India a waterless country.

v42n2-clift3en.jpg




In essence, India is not only friend of thief but conspirator.
 
.
What is China willing to exchange for Tawang? Aksai Chin and Sakshgam Valley? These two places were uninhabited but Tawang is a place where Indian citizens live. I dont think its possible.
By giving tawang...India will lose Tibetan leverage over...so not gonna happen!
 
. .
Time to accept the current borders and move on.

That's what Zhou Enlai offered in 1960, to turn the LAC into a recognised international border.

Guess what India's response was? The Forward Policy in 1962.

India will never give up these border lines drawn by white British men (like Henry McMahon). Because that would mean giving up on the idea of India.
 
.
We should ask for Hong kong in exchange. It will be a good exchange as the hkers dont like the Chinese in any case. 2 democracies together.
 
. .
China is a very friendly & peaceful country. India is an expansionist.

The proof of how peaceful china is below.

Here is a list of the countries that have territorial and border disputes with China:

  1. Japan :: Parts of the East China Sea, particularly the Senkaku Islands. Also, on occasion, the Ryukyu Islands, on the grounds that the completely independent Kingdom of Ryukyu was once a vassal state of China. The Kingdom of Ryukyu terminated tributary relations with China in 1874.
  2. Vietnam :: China claims large parts of Vietnam on historical precedent (Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644). Also, Macclesfield Bank, Paracel Islands, parts of the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands.
  3. India :: China illegally occupies 38,000 sq km (Aksai Chin) of land in Jammu & Kashmir. It also holds 5,180 km of Indian territory in Pakistan occupied Kashmir under Sino-Pak agreement of 1963. At the heart of Sino-Indian boundary dispute is the issue of Arunachal Pradesh (90,000 sq km), which China describes as "Southern Tibet". Beijing is demanding that at least the Tawang Tract of Arunachal Pradesh, if not the whole of the state, be transferred to China.
  4. Nepal :: China claims parts of Nepal dating back to the Sino-Nepalese War in 1788-1792. China claims they are part of Tibet, therefore part of China.
  5. North Korea :: Baekdu Mountain and Jiandao. China has also on occasion claimed all of North Korea on historical grounds (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
  6. The Philippines :: Parts of the South China Sea, particularly Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly Islands. Russia :: 160,000 square kilometres still unilaterally claimed by China, despite China signing several agreements. Singapore :: Parts of the South China Sea.
  7. South Korea :: Parts of the East China Sea. China has also on occasion claimed all of South Korea on historical grounds (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
  8. Bhutan :: Bhutanese enclaves in Tibet, namely Cherkip Gompa, Dho, Dungmar, Gesur, Gezon, Itse Gompa, Khochar, Nyanri, Ringung, Sanmar, Tarchen and Zuthulphuk. Also Kula Kangri and mountainous areas to the west of this peak, plus the western Haa District of Bhutan.
  9. Taiwan :: China claims all of Taiwan, but particular disputes are: Macclesfi eld Bank, Paracel Islands, Scarborough Shoal, parts of the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands. The Paracel Islands, also called Xisha Islands in Vietnamese, is a group of islands in the South China Sea whose sovereignty is disputed among China, Taiwan and Vietnam disputes with Burma.
  10. Kazakhstan :: There are continual unilateral claims by China on Kazakhstan territory, despite new agreements, in China's favour signed every few years.
  11. Laos :: China claims large areas of Laos on historical precedent (China's Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
  12. Brunei :: Over Spratly Islands. The Spratly Islands is a disputed group of more than 750 reefs, islets, atolls, cays, and islands in the South China Sea. About 45 islands are occupied by small numbers of military forces from the People's Republic of China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, and Malaysia. Brunei has also claimed an exclusive economic zone in the southeastern part of the Spratlys encompassing just one area of small islands on Louisa Reef. This has led to escalating tensions.
  13. Tajikistan :: Chinese claims based on historical precedent (Qing Dynasty, 1644-1912).
  14. Cambodia :: China has, on occasion, claimed parts of Cambodia on historical precedent (China's Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644). Indonesia :: Parts of the South China Sea.
  15. Kyrgyzstan :: China claims the majority of Kyrgyzstan on the grounds that it was unfairly forced to cede the territory (which it had formerly conquered) to Russia in the 19th century.
  16. Malaysia :: Over Parts of the South China Sea, particularly the Spratly Islands.
  17. Mongolia :: China claims all of Mongolia on historical precedent (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368). In fact, Mongolia, under Genghis Khan, occupied China.
  18. Afghanistan :: Afghan province of Bahdakhshan (despite a bilateral treaty of 1963, China still encroaches on Afghan territory).
  19. Indonesia :: parts of China's unilaterally claimed nine-dash line overlap Indonesia's exclusive economic zone near Natuna islands. The PRC has often argued that the waters around Natuna islands are Chinese "traditional fishing grounds".
This excludes Xin Jiang province, Tibet, Hong Kong

nationalinterest/feature/hong-kong-tibet-xinjiang-triple-trouble-chinas-periphery-11433

Google the above link

Macau also is another suppressed province.


After Narendra Modi has come into power, every old bully strategy is being countered with serious mounting trouble being crafted for China. It is giving threats to India is playing with fire, India will pay for its actions, they will stop investments in India, stop trade with India, etc, etc.


But unfortunately for India, neither we are scared of your old tantrums, nor we are going to take it lying down anymore. For every threat China is being answered in the same tone & manner.
 
Last edited:
.
By giving tawang...India will lose Tibetan leverage over...so not gonna happen!
Border dispute with China is not like Bangladesh Border. If chinese were so convinced about Tawang being their territory they would have taken it in 1962.
 
.
China is a very friendly & peaceful country. India is an expansionist.

The proof of how peaceful china is below.

Here is a list of the countries that have territorial and border disputes with China:

  1. Japan :: Parts of the East China Sea, particularly the Senkaku Islands. Also, on occasion, the Ryukyu Islands, on the grounds that the completely independent Kingdom of Ryukyu was once a vassal state of China. The Kingdom of Ryukyu terminated tributary relations with China in 1874.
  2. Vietnam :: China claims large parts of Vietnam on historical precedent (Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644). Also, Macclesfield Bank, Paracel Islands, parts of the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands.
  3. India :: China illegally occupies 38,000 sq km (Aksai Chin) of land in Jammu & Kashmir. It also holds 5,180 km of Indian territory in Pakistan occupied Kashmir under Sino-Pak agreement of 1963. At the heart of Sino-Indian boundary dispute is the issue of Arunachal Pradesh (90,000 sq km), which China describes as "Southern Tibet". Beijing is demanding that at least the Tawang Tract of Arunachal Pradesh, if not the whole of the state, be transferred to China.
  4. Nepal :: China claims parts of Nepal dating back to the Sino-Nepalese War in 1788-1792. China claims they are part of Tibet, therefore part of China.
  5. North Korea :: Baekdu Mountain and Jiandao. China has also on occasion claimed all of North Korea on historical grounds (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
  6. The Philippines :: Parts of the South China Sea, particularly Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly Islands. Russia :: 160,000 square kilometres still unilaterally claimed by China, despite China signing several agreements. Singapore :: Parts of the South China Sea.
  7. South Korea :: Parts of the East China Sea. China has also on occasion claimed all of South Korea on historical grounds (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
  8. Bhutan :: Bhutanese enclaves in Tibet, namely Cherkip Gompa, Dho, Dungmar, Gesur, Gezon, Itse Gompa, Khochar, Nyanri, Ringung, Sanmar, Tarchen and Zuthulphuk. Also Kula Kangri and mountainous areas to the west of this peak, plus the western Haa District of Bhutan.
  9. Taiwan :: China claims all of Taiwan, but particular disputes are: Macclesfi eld Bank, Paracel Islands, Scarborough Shoal, parts of the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands. The Paracel Islands, also called Xisha Islands in Vietnamese, is a group of islands in the South China Sea whose sovereignty is disputed among China, Taiwan and Vietnam disputes with Burma.
  10. Kazakhstan :: There are continual unilateral claims by China on Kazakhstan territory, despite new agreements, in China's favour signed every few years.
  11. Laos :: China claims large areas of Laos on historical precedent (China's Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
  12. Brunei :: Over Spratly Islands. The Spratly Islands is a disputed group of more than 750 reefs, islets, atolls, cays, and islands in the South China Sea. About 45 islands are occupied by small numbers of military forces from the People's Republic of China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, and Malaysia. Brunei has also claimed an exclusive economic zone in the southeastern part of the Spratlys encompassing just one area of small islands on Louisa Reef. This has led to escalating tensions.
  13. Tajikistan :: Chinese claims based on historical precedent (Qing Dynasty, 1644-1912).
  14. Cambodia :: China has, on occasion, claimed parts of Cambodia on historical precedent (China's Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644). Indonesia :: Parts of the South China Sea.
  15. Kyrgyzstan :: China claims the majority of Kyrgyzstan on the grounds that it was unfairly forced to cede the territory (which it had formerly conquered) to Russia in the 19th century.
  16. Malaysia :: Over Parts of the South China Sea, particularly the Spratly Islands.
  17. Mongolia :: China claims all of Mongolia on historical precedent (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368). In fact, Mongolia, under Genghis Khan, occupied China.
  18. Afghanistan :: Afghan province of Bahdakhshan (despite a bilateral treaty of 1963, China still encroaches on Afghan territory).

This excludes Xin Jiang province, Tibet, Hong Kong


nationalinterest/feature/hong-kong-tibet-xinjiang-triple-trouble-chinas-periphery-11433

Google the above link

Macau also is another suppressed province.


After Narendra Modi has come into power, every old bully strategy is being countered with serious mounting trouble being crafted for China. It is giving threats to India is playing with fire, India will pay for its actions, they will stop investments in India, stop trade with India, etc, etc.


But unfortunately for India, neither we are scared of your old tantrums, nor we are going to take it lying down anymore. For every threat China is being answered in the same tone & manner.


There are all the legacy of the white man - either the British or the French or the Russians .

You have to read between the lines .You take the Europeans out of the equation & China under the CCP is what China was under the Manchus with all these vassal states paying homage to zhonngguo.
 
. . .
So, as before, China is the one trying to make concessions (see Zhou Enlai's offer in 1960), and India is the one looking for a fight. :lol:

LOL..what concession ?

There is only a demand for Twang to be given to China. Land that is part of Arunachal Pradesh.

Does china recognize a One India policy ?
 
.
Chinese should stop begging us for a compromise. Its unseemly and does not behove such a ancient civilization.
We will give you land if any is left over after we have had our fill. Till than wait .
 
.
There are many more, unable to edit since it was my first post


Indonesia :: parts of China's unilaterally claimed nine-dash line overlap Indonesia's exclusive economic zone near Natuna islands. Although China has acknowledged Indonesia's sovereignty over Natuna islands, the PRC has argued that the waters around Natuna islands are Chinese "traditional fishing grounds".


China can only give threats. It can do nothing to India. Soon China has to accept India's claims & make peace with India, if not what ever threats given for India is going to come back for themselves.


India is starting to build ties with Taiwan & trade directly, flushing your one china policy in our rest room. India is not coward who will gift our territory like how Pakistan gifted Kashmir & opening our country for another country to lay Silk CPEC to get silk f<cks & becoming a slave. Pakistan has also brought & placed Russia with their foolish super power triangle fantasy in its mind. Wait & watch how your country will be ripped & raped apart by Russia & you won't even know.

I have been reading all the posts about how Russia has become friend of Pakistan & dumped India. Neither anybody here nor any of the country top politicians, analysts or defence personnel has been able to see what's the game plan of Russia. I am surprised I can see what Russia's game is, but 190 million people can't see what's cooking, even after so many series blasts.


Once China plays up it's dirty Maoist games in India, Xin Jiang is just waiting to erupt & explode everywhere across China. You can't rule out the peaceful Tibetians wont be also used to teach China in the language it understands. China's fears & panic will be seen soon when it comes to the negotiating table & settle border issues with India, like how it did with Russia & very soon China will accept Massod Azhar is a terrorist & also give way for India NSG membership. Write it down.
 
.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom