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China rapidly narrows technology gap with S. Korea

So overall Korean technology is still ahead than that of China?


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I've countered your falsified arguments and debunked your mythical claims using your own links.

Go click the links and find out yourself. Rumours are not facts. You have no facts.

China is equal with commercially viable technology LCD and QDot. Thus, China is equal to Korea in display technology.

Experimental technologies like OLED that are being promoted by company X where it's not proven its commercial viability cannot be considered.

There are always companies that come up with such gimmick technologies and promote it as "next generation technology" usually by exaggerating its capability so consumers by into it which increases consumer demand and force other companies to start producing that technology. This happens all the time in the tech world.

OLED is a gimmick technology that no one else produces because the consumer is not interested in such a gimmick of 'deeper blacks'. It's a useless gimmick just like 3D glass tv and curved tv.

As I said, LG is marketing a random technology because Chinese LCD panel makers have caught up. LG invested into OLED, others invested into QD. QD is commercially viable because you can get a 55" tv for only 25% more than regular LCD. QD gives the same picture quality as OLED. OLED costs 3 times as much as regular LCD.

Costs cannot come down for OLED because it cannot be mass produced as it has no demand by the consumer. Any producer selling OLED will lose money. That's why Chinese companies are not producing OLEDs themselves and just buying LG OLEDs to see if this OLED gimmick might work in the market. If it doesn't work, they'll just abandon OLED and if it does work, they will produce it. OLED is an experimental technology. Plasma failed, OLED will fail too.

You have no argument left. All you got are rumours about Apple might use OLED in future phone. No proof, just rumours.

I have won the argument with regards to display technologies and how China and Korea are equal in LCD and its advanced technology QD. Experimental technologies cannot be considered as in every industry, many companies come up with their own gimmick technology and promotes it as the "future of the industry" and end up failing. This is why until OLED becomes mainstream, it cannot be considered.

You're going around in circles trying to prove the unprovable in display technology. You've conveniently ignored the other industries you mentioned where Korea is ahead of China. Now go prove it.

I think this is a good read, though I haven't gone through it thoroughly.
The future of TVs may not be OLED after all, but something quite different
By Ian Morris, June 14, 2015Television
OLED might just be a steppingstone to the next sort of TV
The future of TVs may not be OLED after all, but something quite different | TechRadar
 
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LOLs. Its that all you can do? reposting, ignoring, without ability to counter my argument and evidence? and telling other to find himself the evidence of your own claim??

What a clown :lol: :lol:

Tell me why Chinese makers are racing in investing in OLED technology? and if you said the article is rumour, then prove it! not tell me to prove what you claim! LOLs :laugh:

Answer the question, argument, and evidence given to you one by one, not ignoring and reposting your same argument.

And what is your answer regarding my questions about Volvo?

You call rumours 'evidence'?

Where is your proof Chinese panel makers racing to invest in OLED technology?
Give me proof. I want actual confirmation from the makers themselves, not 'reports' about what some website said. All your links are rumours, not official confirmation.

I've already told you why OLED will fail and why it won't take off.

The burden of proof is with you. Throwing personal insults is not proof buddy.

Even your 'proof' of Chinese cars is an opinion from someone, not based on actual technology. Opinions are not facts. If you want to say Korean autos are superior, then give me what technology Korean autos have that Chinese autos don't have?

I need tech information, not opinion pieces.

Now get on with it!
 
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You are a dummie. How many times do I have to tell you that OLED is simply a promotional tech that is being push as the next generation of display? Beside high production cost, low consumer yield, and imo the biggest issue is the low-life span. Nobody would pay a premium OLED TV that died in 2 years, especially when QD TV can accomplished the same picture quality (in fact, QD TV has better white pixel but OLED has better black pixel) with about half the price of an OLED and not to mention last forever.


Yes you said it many times, but as I said many times as well that what you said is LOGICAL FALLACY.

Use your logic please ....

How come promotional tech become mass production, and accepted by market?
How come chinese OLED maker rush to sell the promotional tech into the market?

Out On Top: LG Display Dominates Global OLED Market | BusinessKorea
Chinese Brand Skyworth aiming to sell 200,000 or more OLED 4K TVs with HDR in 2016 -



Diversification? Some with deep pocket will invest in both OLED and QD (such as Samsung and LG). Let make no mistake about it, some Chinese makers will invest in OLED and some will invest in QD. What will be commercially viable and profitable remain to be seen. LED will continue to dominate the market place for now and in the foreseeable future.


So you still call this diversification that most player are rushing to invest and already selling in the market as a "promotional tech" :laugh:
 
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Yes you said it many times, but as I said many times as well that what you said is LOGICAL FALLACY.

Use your logic please ....

How come promotional tech become mass production, and accepted by market?
How come chinese OLED maker rush to sell the promotional tech into the market?

Out On Top: LG Display Dominates Global OLED Market | BusinessKorea
Chinese Brand Skyworth aiming to sell 200,000 or more OLED 4K TVs with HDR in 2016 -






So you still call this diversification that most player are rushing to invest and already selling in the market as a "promotional tech" :laugh:

LOL I've already explained exactly why some Chinese brands are giving OLED a try. They will try anything to get ahead of its rivals and are willing to give anything a TRY hoping it will succeed. They are taking a cautious approach by importing LG OLED and trying to sell OLED TVs and not producing their own OLED panels. WHEN it fails to sell, they will abandon OLED and move onto QD. Chinese brands' losses will be minimal. LG will be stuck with a promotional technology and they will have to incur massive losses as their OLED bet failed and is not commercially viable technology where they've sunk resources into a technology that is not accepted by the market.

You really are clueless about how business works.
 
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Yes you said it many times, but as I said many times as well that what you said is LOGICAL FALLACY.

Use your logic please ....

How come promotional tech become mass production, and accepted by market?
How come chinese OLED maker rush to sell the promotional tech into the market?

Out On Top: LG Display Dominates Global OLED Market | BusinessKorea
Chinese Brand Skyworth aiming to sell 200,000 or more OLED 4K TVs with HDR in 2016 -






So you still call this diversification that most player are rushing to invest and already selling in the market as a "promotional tech" :laugh:
Wrong. There is nothing fallacy about what I said. I said from the truth and you don't like to hear the truth but you have to because truth will hurt but it is the truth. LOL

TO answer you...

The market for OLED is tiny compare to LED. In fact, it is a fraction of it. The reason LG promoted OLED is quite simple. They invest $10 billion so far, Samsung about $7B or so. So they have a lot of pressure to make OLED works. That's why you see LG desperately selling OLED panel to some Chinese makers at a LOSS in order to promote in the Chinese market.

First and foremost, you have to understand that display firms will diversify their investment in new technology as well as existing technology so they stay competitive. That does not mean they want OLED to be successful but rather to test and stay competitive. It is the same as Samsung promoting OLED but at the same time promoting QD Display. As I said before, OLED is expensive to make but has very short lifespan so Chinese display firms is hedging for a failure. Just in case OLED doesn't work out, they still can dominate the QD display market. If OLED somehow becomes successful, they can jump into OLED right away.
 
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Dumb because you are believing you have possessed all knowledge about China’s past and China’s future path just because you have read some books /news about China.
You talk as if this -- reading and talking about -- is somehow unique, at least on this forum, and none of your fellow Chinese ever engaged in it. This is a military oriented forum, how many of you Chinese on this forum ever served and yet have no problems making pronouncements on military affairs ?

Also because you are believing most Chinese posters here, who know your language, read your literature and lived in the West for decades, would buy your crap.
Speaking of being a real dimwit instead of just playing one...

What make you think that I am interested in changing you guys' minds ? I do not care if you guys buy my crap or not. This is about the silent readers. In a manner of speaking, I am arguing on their behalf.

Out of curiosity, do/can you read Chinese?
No, I do not. But currently English is the WORKING LANGUAGE of STEM. At one point in Chemistry, if you want to learn and contribute to that science, you have to know German. I work with Chinese engineers on a daily basis and whenever I hear them on conference calls from the US back to China, their conversations are peppered with not only English words but entire phrases. Many of them even admitted that STEM is better served with/in/by English than their Chinese. So your question is meaningless.

No doubt the rest of the world including China has learned a great deal from you COLLECTIVE WEST in the last 100 years. But if this made you guys so arrogant then it is time for you to recall your humbled past where your ancestors learned, stole or robbed from the other part of the world for centuries. Are you sure your ORIGIN technology doesn’t have origin of others?
Direct this at your fellow Chinese since it is they who are claiming that China's technology base is superior to JPN and SKR. So far, China have been very successful at learning, stealing, and robbing others not only of origin technologies, but also of derived (spin-off) technologies, and of core technologies.

Your friend Marty apparently does not understand the differences between origin, derived, and core technologies. He implied that gunpowder is a core technology that formed the foundation for other scientific discoveries. Fact: Gunpowder have not been used since the invention of cordite in 1890.

Mind you, I do not mean that when cordite was invented, the use of gunpowder immediately stopped. It just simply mean that when there comes a superior alternative, the use of the original product will decline over time. Cordite is superior to gunpowder in so many ways that gunpowder today is quite a museum artifact.

Gunpowder was an origin technology. It gave people the hint that if you mix A, B, and C together, you will get a product that does something. So with cordite, instead of A, B, and C, we have E, F, and G. Cordite is a derived (spin-off) technology. Since then, we have plenty of formulations of products that produces the same result as gunpowder.

Gunpowder and cordite are themselves core technologies. A core technology can be discarded when a superior core technology is available. Can be, but not necessarily so. Example is in rocketry when there are parallel propellent methods: solid and liquid fuel. Each have advantages the other does not. Each is superior to the other only in certain environment and circumstance. So when there is no clear superiority in most environments and circumstances, parallel core technologies will co-exists.

Now...Is magnetic a derived technology from gunpowder and cordite ? No, it is not. Magnetism is an elemental physical phenomena that exists everywhere in the universe, whereas gunpowder and cordite are man-made composites. They may or may not exists in alien civilizations.

We are starting to use magnetics to propel bodies. The US Navy is fielding a magnetic gun soon. Gunpowder and cordite are explosives to send a body into motion. Magnets are used to do the same thing. But then so is the wagon and wheel combination that sends a body into motion. So is magnetics a derived technology from the wagon and wheel combination ? No, it is not. The magnetic gun is closer to gunpowder and cordite in the IDEA of sending a body into motion, but since its components have no physical relations and similarities to both gunpowder and cordite, it is an origin technology.

What is an 'advanced' society comes from the amount of origin/derived technologies developed to become core technologies, and the availability or scope of those technologies to the people. The Soviet Union was not an 'advanced' society. Yes, there were ICBMs, nuclear submarines, and a space program.

But here is a list of derived technologies from the American space program...

https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2008/pdf/spinoff2008.pdf

Anything from the Soviet and Chinese space programs ? How common among the Russians and Chinese homes are ICBMs and nuclear submarines ? Can you explain why the microwave oven could not have come from the Soviet Union and your China ?

If you want to discuss arrogance, look at your fellow Chinese in this forum. The amount of original and spin-off technologies from SKR and JPN surpassed China and serves the people in exactly what Kennedy said in that NASA link: '...used for the progress of all people.' Your China have yet to match up to those two countries.

No difference to the progress of other aspects of human’s life and society, technological progress and development also has a phenomenon known as “path dependence”, that would answer all your queries about China ‘s technology today.
Yeah...Tell that to your fellow Chinese. Hopefully it would temper their arrogance a bit.

What are the first-mover and the late-mover advantages? What are implications to China?
The first-mover have the advantage of being the trend setter and standards bearer. The late-mover have the advantages of learning from the mistakes of those before. But your fellow Chinese are not interested about Chinese technological progress from an academic perspective. They are more interested in using the current Chinese progress to beat down others, even to racialist tunes.

Take the buildings in Shanghai and a few other major Chinese cities, for example. Your fellow Chinese boasts about those tall buildings and criticized US cities as old and decrepit. Laughable is their ignorance.

Take two plots of land, A and B. Land A is barren and undeveloped or under developed, while land B have existing houses and other structures. You cannot simply build anything you want on B. The land and the society that lives on it cannot deviate from existing building laws and codes. The plumbing is already built. The property lines and their legal obligations and rights already established. On land A, you can do anything you want, but whatever you build, you will be using the same technologies as the people have on land B. So just because the newer buildings on land A have more flashy lights and fancier plumbings, there have been no real technological advancements in civil engineering, architectures, constructions, and so on. So you cannot justifiably claimed that the people on land A is more 'advanced' than the people on land B. But such claims are exactly what your fellow Chinese have done.

The Chinese on this forum are not interested in technology from a philosophical perspective as you implied in your question about long term implications for China. They are more interested in using the technological progress in China to beat their chests and to beat each other off.
 
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You are so shameless by bringing VOLVO and claim as Chinese technology

The shame is on Hyundai. Hyundai Motor America began selling cars in the USA in 1986 and most Americans today still consider Hyundai a cheap Korean car brand. Nobody respects Hyundai. The fact that Hyundai needs to offer a 10 year/100,000 mile warranty is proof of the company's desperation for sales and the car's unreliability.

Why is Volvo not Chinese technology? Volvo is a wholly owned subsidiary of Zhejiang Geely Holding Group of China. Do you understand that the owner of a company owns all the assets of the company, including the technology? Are you saying Elon Musk doesn't own the technology to Tesla?

I have given you questions regarding this VOLVO, and you never reply.

1. Is Volvo still registered as Sweden company? in spite of Geely purchase?

Where a company is "registered" has no relation whatsoever with ownership.

About a year ago, Burger King was considering moving their headquarters to Canada in order to reduce taxes. If they complete this move in the future, does it mean Canada suddenly owns Burger King? Of course not. Ownership remains unchanged. Burger King will simply be operating under Canadian law.

Burger King's Move To Canada Could Save It $275 Million In Taxes

I'll give you another example. More than 50 percent of the major corporations in the world are incorporated in the tiny state of Delaware. Does that mean Delaware owns these corporations?

2. Has chinese car maker already learn and can absorb and emulate VOLVO technology, and can produce the car with the same quality??

Why do they need to? Volvo IS a Chinese company.
Does Ford have to absorb and emulate GM Cadillac technology?
Does Mazda have to absorb and emulate Toyota technology?

3. When did Geely bought Volvo?

You can't even do a simple internet search?
Volvo sold by Ford to Chinese automaker for $1.8 billion - Mar. 28, 2010

Because of this evidence:

LSA’s test makes an interesting contrast with a similar exercise in February, in which Sanford C. Bernstein, a research firm, stripped down two leading models of Chinese-branded car, to examine their build quality. In this case the Chinese firms were still found to be lagging their foreign rivals. So Chinese companies have not yet learned how to make world-class cars, but they have now cracked how to make top-quality construction equipment at attractive prices—and their foreign rivals should be worried.

http://www.economist.com/news/busin...tion-gear-are-now-world-class-digging-victory

Cherry picking a few sentences from a two year old article isn't evidence of anything.

Also which two models of cars did they examine? What's the make and model? Which model year? How do we know they didn't strip down a Hyundai that was made in China?
 
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The shame is on Hyundai. Hyundai Motor America began selling cars in the USA in 1986 and most Americans today still consider Hyundai a cheap Korean car brand. Nobody respects Hyundai. The fact that Hyundai needs to offer a 10 year/100,000 mile warranty is proof of the company's desperation for sales and the car's unreliability.
Utter garbage.

If you rely on increased sales to support a poor product under warranties, the poor product alone will put you out of business quick. Look at the Yugo in the US, for example. No warranty will be enticing enough for people when there are alternatives, even if the alternatives are more expensive. The Yugo was so poorly designed and problematic that its manufacturer could offer a 20 yr warranty and would do no good.
 
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South Korean Hyundai signed 54 automobile technology licenses from 1981 to 1985.

Hyundai started its automobile business by licensing Mitsubishi technology. Car technology was never developed indigenously by South Korea.

From 1981 to 1985, Hyundai signed a total of 54 automobile technology licenses (see citation below) from Japan, UK, US, Italy, West Germany, and others.

Imitation to Innovation: The Dynamics of Korea's Technological Learning - Linsu Kim - Google Books

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South Korean Hyundai licensed Mitsubishi technology for cars.

Hyundai started its automobile business by licensing Mitsubishi technology. Car technology was never developed indigenously by South Korea.

Imitation to Innovation: The Dynamics of Korea's Technological Learning - Linsu Kim - Google Books

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I read that too. Thanks for putting it up. I was too lazy to do so. But the book also mentioned that Mitsubishi owns 10% of Hyundai.
Hyundai wanted core tech from foreign companies but naturally they rejected the idea. Who in the world will give you core tech to you so you can compete with them for market shares ?
 
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Utter garbage.

If you rely on increased sales to support a poor product under warranties, the poor product alone will put you out of business quick. Look at the Yugo in the US, for example. No warranty will be enticing enough for people when there are alternatives, even if the alternatives are more expensive. The Yugo was so poorly designed and problematic that its manufacturer could offer a 20 yr warranty and would do no good.

Gambit, I'm willing to bet YOU don't own a Hyundai. At least not as your primary car.

Let me ask you some questions:

1. Do you think Hyundai can hold on to their market share in the US if they drop their 10 year/100,000 warranty? Do you honestly believe they can keep up with Toyota and Honda without it?

2. Do you consider Hyundai a serious luxury brand? Would you consider buying something like the Hyundai Equus?
 
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Gambit, I'm willing to bet YOU don't own a Hyundai. At least not as your primary car.

Let me ask you some questions:

1. Do you think Hyundai can hold on to their market share in the US if they drop their 10 year/100,000 warranty? Do you honestly believe they can keep up with Toyota and Honda without it?

2. Do you consider Hyundai a serious luxury brand? Would you consider buying something like the Hyundai Equus?
I have never owned a new vehicle in my life. Even my bikes are used. I can afford a 5 Beemer, if I wanted to go fancy. But to date, of all the used vehicles I ever bought, each one was at least five yrs old when I bought it. You may not believe it, but I still have one of them: A 1989 Toyota light pick up truck that have over 260,000 miles on it.

Look up Toyota 22RE engine.

Toyota never offered anything like Huyndai does, and yet the 22RE engine is legendary in reliability. That engine in my truck have only the timing chain (not belt) changed at 80,000 miles, and a starter change at 120,000 miles. Nothing more. I changed both parts myself with ordinary tools.

Do you really think that it is not possible to make an engine that last 100,000 miles ?
 
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How about this for a change? This is not the most update but take a look:

China leads the world in PMG turbines

For a number of years, the technology selection for wind turbine drive trains in China had closely followed the same steps as in Europe. Just recently, Chinese companies have leapfrogged ahead to the latest and most advanced modern drive train technology.

In the first phase of wind turbine technology development, local Chinese turbines were mainly built based on licenses from Europe. Therefore, induction generator based turbines were built originally. The first ones were based on a standard asynchronous machine and a soft starter; later on, drive trains advanced to feature a double-fed induction generator (DFIG) and converter. Finally, along with the shift into the new millennium, came a shift in technology towards new solutions represented by permanent magnet generators (PMG) and full-power converters (FPC).

When The Switch entered China in 2004, there were no PMG-based turbines in production. Yet some open-minded companies had that technology on their drawing boards. Over the past ten years, we have witnessed the PMG revolution in China.

In fact, all Chinese wind turbine manufacturers that have really been successful during the past ten years, and are still on top today, have selected PMG and FPC based drive trains in their turbines. They have been lucky to be able to leapfrog ahead to the most modern technology, since they were able to select their own turbine designs from scratch once the license phase was over.

As a comparison, just think about the shift in the type of converters used with DFIGs to the modern FPCs now used in industrial motor drives that took place many years ago.

The main reasons for PMG and FPC drive train success are high reliability and availability, combined with the ease of handling existing and future grid connection requirements, such as low voltage/high voltage ride-through. Drive trains with FPC can also handle requirements for feeding reactive power. DFIG machines cannot reach the same level without an external power conditioning device.

It is clear that the old designs will remain. But the majority of new designs in China are based on PMG and FPC. And these are now leading the way – and the world of wind power.

Reijo Takala: China leads the world in PMG turbines


Has this tech dropped behind other nations yet? I have no clue but how about this technology to lead the world in market share as our wind turbine companies like Goldwind, United Power, Ming Yang and Envision, all together accounted for a combined market share of over 22%


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I posted this news somewhere but for the sake of this topic I am having this posted once again

ZTE Wins Prestigious GSMA Award at Mobile World Congress 2015

‘Best Mobile Enabled Consumer Electronics Device’ awarded to ZTE’s innovative smart projector

ZTE, a leading global mobile device maker, today announced that the ZTE Smart Projector (Spro) has been recognized as the ‘Best Mobile Enabled Consumer Electronics Device’ Award at Mobile World Congress 2015. The award was presented by the GSMA during the 20th Global Mobile Awards, held at the Fira Gran Via in Barcelona.

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ZTE's smart projector wins 'Best Mobile Enabled Consumer Electronics Device' award at MWC 2015 (Photo: Business Wire)

The ZTE Spro is the world’s first all-in-one smart portable projector. Designed to provide up to eight users with anytime Wi-Fi anywhere access at 4G LTE speed, the Android-based smart projector with built-in storage and expandable Micro-SD and USB port can project 120-inch images and videos from a variety of convenient inputs.

Shortlisted alongside the Phorus PS5 Speaker, Harman Kardon Wireless HD Audio System, Telekom Austria M2M AVUS Reviermanager and SlimPort’s NANO.CONSOLE, the ZTE Spro was selected by the judges due to its appeal to both business and consumer users and its category-defining combination of portable projection and mobile connectivity.

On presenting ZTE with its first ever Global Mobile Award in the category, Jon Fredrik Baksaas read comments from the judges affirming the ZTE Spro is “a nifty and useful collaboration device for the home or office, handy in almost any use-case scenario for small groups.”

“We are delighted to have won this award at Mobile World Congress; a show that we know to be extremely competitive” said Steven Mao, Vice President, ZTE Corporation & Head of Marketing, ZTE Mobile Devices, when receiving the award. “The ZTE team showed courage and vision to create an entirely new product category with the ZTE Spro. Our design and engineering teams have created a device that blends technology with practicality to offer consumers new ways to stay connected, be entertained, and be productive - all at the same time. Innovation is in our DNA and can be seen across all our recent innovations, such as the industry’s first system-level voice control in the Star 2 and eye print biometric unlocking technology in the Grand S3. We are shaping the future of human interaction with smart devices, and it is a proud da for ZTE indeed.”

On the show floor at MWC (Hall 3 Stand 3F30), ZTE will be demonstrating the second iteration of its award-winning Smart Projection technology, the SPRO2, which is due to launch in May this year.

About ZTE Mobile Devices

ZTE Mobile Devices is a division of ZTE Corporation, a global telecommunications equipment, networks and mobile devices company headquartered in Shenzhen, China. ZTE is a publicly traded company listed on the Hong Kong and Shenzhen stock exchanges.

ZTE is one of the global leaders in the mobile handset manufacturing industry in the world, offering a complete range of mobile devices, including mobile phones, tablets, mobile broadband modems and hotspots and family desktop integration terminals.

ZTE has strategic partnerships with 47 of the world’s top 50 carriers. Additionally, ZTE ranked No.1 in PCT patent applications according to the WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization) in 2011 and 2012. For more information, please visit: www.ztedevice.com.
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Wrong. There is nothing fallacy about what I said. I said from the truth and you don't like to hear the truth but you have to because truth will hurt but it is the truth. LOL

The "truth" that you said is simply your own assumption. The experts in this field doesnt agree with you. I have given you evidence: both Panasonic boss and the other expert that you guys downplay because simply not according to what you want to believe.

The OLED is "technology promotion" is totally nonsense, because oled has been mass produced and selling. Even if it is still called promotion - so what?? It doesnt mean that we have to ignore the technological achievement.


TO answer you...

The market for OLED is tiny compare to LED. In fact, it is a fraction of it. The reason LG promoted OLED is quite simple. They invest $10 billion so far, Samsung about $7B or so. So they have a lot of pressure to make OLED works. That's why you see LG desperately selling OLED panel to some Chinese makers at a LOSS in order to promote in the Chinese market.

First and foremost, you have to understand that display firms will diversify their investment in new technology as well as existing technology so they stay competitive. That does not mean they want OLED to be successful but rather to test and stay competitive. It is the same as Samsung promoting OLED but at the same time promoting QD Display. As I said before, OLED is expensive to make but has very short lifespan so Chinese display firms is hedging for a failure. Just in case OLED doesn't work out, they still can dominate the QD display market. If OLED somehow becomes successful, they can jump into OLED right away.

You are WRONG and dummies.

WRONG, because It is not only LG that invest and produce OLED, most display maker also invest and produce OLED.

Dummie, because I have given you evidence, but again and again you ignore them or unable to discern maybe. :hitwall:

These are other company that produce or invest in OLED technology beside LG:
BOE Technology
CSOT
Visionox
Tianma
Sony
and many more ...


So stop BULSSYIT and pretend to be expert! find fact, and open your eyes widely to see the truth.

This is the FACT about OLED prospect

Investing in OLEDs: discover the next big thing
OLED is a new exciting technology, enabling thin, efficient and bright displays and lighting. Many people consider OLEDs to be the next-generation display, television and lighting tech. The potential sales of OLEDs in the next few years is billion of dollars. In fact, the OLED display market today is estimated at 600M$, and is forecasted to grow to 5.5B$ by 2015. OLED lighting will take off (hopefully) by 2011, and reach 6B$ in revenue in 2018.

OLED companies
There are many companies working on OLEDs, from big corporations like Sony, Samsung, LG, Kodak and GE, to small research and IP companies.
Investing in OLEDs: discover the next big thing | OLED-Info

I hope this is an opening eyes for you guys who are so myopic due to blind nationalistic and cannot accept the fact that other country is still ahead than you.
Show me evidence that saying otherwise if you still disagree :cheers:

The shame is on Hyundai. Hyundai Motor America began selling cars in the USA in 1986 and most Americans today still consider Hyundai a cheap Korean car brand. Nobody respects Hyundai. The fact that Hyundai needs to offer a 10 year/100,000 mile warranty is proof of the company's desperation for sales and the car's unreliability.

LOLs. You are a truly JOKER boy :lol:

Does China car success in America?

Live with fact! that China still fail to enter USA market, while at least Hyundai selling in USA and get good score in term of quality recently

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Why is Volvo not Chinese technology? Volvo is a wholly owned subsidiary of Zhejiang Geely Holding Group of China. Do you understand that the owner of a company owns all the assets of the company, including the technology? Are you saying Elon Musk doesn't own the technology to Tesla?


But their technology is not Chinese achievement.

Where a company is "registered" has no relation whatsoever with ownership.

About a year ago, Burger King was considering moving their headquarters to Canada in order to reduce taxes. If they complete this move in the future, does it mean Canada suddenly owns Burger King? Of course not. Ownership remains unchanged. Burger King will simply be operating under Canadian law.

Burger King's Move To Canada Could Save It $275 Million In Taxes

I'll give you another example. More than 50 percent of the major corporations in the world are incorporated in the tiny state of Delaware. Does that mean Delaware owns these corporations?


Then Sweden can say that Volvo technology is Sweded technology.

Why do they need to? Volvo IS a Chinese company.
Does Ford have to absorb and emulate GM Cadillac technology?
Does Mazda have to absorb and emulate Toyota technology?


Because chinese car still low in quality.



From 2010, then Volvo technology already fall into chinese hand, but still chinese car's quality is bad? :lol:


Cherry picking a few sentences from a two year old article isn't evidence of anything.

Ohhh... is there any other sentence that saying Chinese car is already on par with international brand in term of quality?

I am admired with your joke talent :omghaha:


Also which two models of cars did they examine? What's the make and model? Which model year? How do we know they didn't strip down a Hyundai that was made in China?


Doesnt matter. CLSA is not stupid - they test on 2 chinese leading (the best) car in 2014.

LOL I've already explained exactly why some Chinese brands are giving OLED a try. They will try anything to get ahead of its rivals and are willing to give anything a TRY hoping it will succeed. They are taking a cautious approach by importing LG OLED and trying to sell OLED TVs and not producing their own OLED panels. WHEN it fails to sell, they will abandon OLED and move onto QD. Chinese brands' losses will be minimal. LG will be stuck with a promotional technology and they will have to incur massive losses as their OLED bet failed and is not commercially viable technology where they've sunk resources into a technology that is not accepted by the market.


You really dont know what you are talking, and dummie.

I've told you most China display maker already produce OLED panel, and you keep saying that they are not producing their own OLED panel?

Find fact, educate your self before speak please.


You really are clueless about how business works.


It is so hillarious to see dummie and blind fanboy like you say other people clueless about business.
Please find fact, before you get humiliated further.

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