China made F-7BGI is ready for export Bangladesh, paint job is done

[eastwatch]

At least pay due respect to your government decision. Anyway, J7 is not garbage.

Do not pay heed to the Jamaatis in the PDF who speak in their Party line. They are not BNP minded, but pretend to be so. Now, without knowing what to comment they are after character assassination of the ruling party. These guys were expecting a bad relation between BD and China to prove their point that AL is pro-Indian. But, they have failed in that. AL govt is equally or more friendly with China.

 

[eastwatch]

Yes

You say that as if it would be a potent pressure tactic. BD army has about 300,000 soldiers, 170 odd artillery guns, and you guys want plan to pressure india with this?? Add to this mix, BD's lack of serious air superiority fighters and your strategy looks increasingly flimsy.

The only way, BD can meaningfully exert pressure is if India's resources are stretched to the limit in a war with China, Pakistan and BD - ALL at the same time. But as history would suggest, close coordination between armed forces of 3 separate nations to achieve a common target has rarely been achieved.

Also for some perspective, BD's defence budget is USD 1.5 billion. India's defense budget is more than 36% of BD's GDP.

Try pressuring your southern neighbor to save muslims facing the wrath of monks. BD might have better odds there.

Even if I accept your poor statistics about BD military, even then IA has kept on surrounding BD with 300,000 all season during peacetime. By the way, does China need to annihilate a weak IA, which has only 3000 tanks, with the help of Pak and BD? Even a weak BD has more than 650 tanks and 450 amphibious APCs. Pakistan has more than 1,500 tanks.

How do you talk big with a troop that cannot fight even against Jharkhand Maos. You will cease half of your land if Pakistan and BD joins together in a war. You are incapable to mobilize in two fronts. Ask any of your generals. So, better keep on courting BD friendship. It is a survival kid for India.

 

[Wickerman]

Considering the fact that Bangladesh has no existential threats, and considering the fact that even if they acquire J20s AGAINST India (there is however no reason to do so), in similar numbers they wont be able to do anything to the IAF, I guess for their existing air defense requirements the F7 is a really good jet. It is also good value for money. After all they are not acquiring second hand jets, but brand new ones built on order. The jet even though outdated when compared to India, Pakistan and China, will still pack a punch and defend BD airspace effectively.

One has to also consider that China worked on this Jet for almost 15 years. The documents and tech specs they got from Soviet Union was full of defects and incomplete. By 1985 the Chinese had got it to Russian standards, so am sure in the next 20 years they would have come up with some improvements of their own. So yes, a cost effective jet to do the required job. Good decision by the BD government.

 

[peep]

But China is capable of crossing chicken neck to shake hands with Bangladeshi officers....

Yes

Even if I accept your poor statistics about BD military, even then IA has kept on surrounding BD with 300,000 all season during peacetime. By the way, does China need to annihilate a weak IA, which has only 3000 tanks, with the help of Pak and BD? Even a weak BD has more than 650 tanks and 450 amphibious APCs. Pakistan has more than 1,500 tanks.

How do you talk big with a troop that cannot fight even against Jharkhand Maos. You will cease half of your land if Pakistan and BD joins together in a war. You are incapable to mobilize in two fronts. Ask any of your generals. So, better keep on courting BD friendship. It is a survival kid for India.

In case of war between India and China, tanks won't come into the picture. Also, there was not a single bullet fired across the LAC even when their higher than mountain friend was getting royally screwed in '71 or '99.. Anyways, almost all of you BD people are acting as insecure kids..

A simple reply saying China wouldn't try to do something which is frowned upon in BD would have sufficed. After all friendship goes both way isn't it ?

Grow up kids !!

 

[securityofficer]

yar i am not able to understand why bd hate india almost every indian love bdesh, why ?

 

[CZAR]

Yes

Even if I accept your poor statistics about BD military, even then IA has kept on surrounding BD with 300,000 all season during peacetime. By the way, does China need to annihilate a weak IA, which has only 3000 tanks, with the help of Pak and BD? Even a weak BD has more than 650 tanks and 450 amphibious APCs. Pakistan has more than 1,500 tanks.

How do you talk big with a troop that cannot fight even against Jharkhand Maos. You will cease half of your land if Pakistan and BD joins together in a war. You are incapable to mobilize in two fronts. Ask any of your generals. So, better keep on courting BD friendship. It is a survival kid for India.

Firstly, you're pathetic at insults.

Secondly, you need to appreciate the fact that militarily, BD is a weakling, at best. Your first and only line of defence is china. But as I have pointed out earlier, history suggests that for all parties to simultaneously converge on India is little more than a wet dream which helps emasculated / insecure farts in getting off.

But i will, however, concede, that in the unrealistic situation of all 3 countries attacking india, the odds would be stacked against us - There, that should help you get off tonight!!

Thirdly, you mentioned tanks. For one, india has somewhere about 3,500 of them. India also has a license to manufacture another 1000 T-90s. As for BD tanks, it mostly comprises of ageing platforms such as the Type 69II - try scaring a few unarmed monks with them.

Next, the army has not been deployed to tackle the maoists. Indian Army boots are designed to land hard, exclusively, on your rear end.

Fifth, you didn't reply on the mismatch in the defence budget. India is ramping up, militarily, at a rapid pace, which is enabled by a defence budget that is more than 1/3rd of BD's GDP. What do you plan to buy for USD 1.5 billion, to match us??

Finally, you are right. Engaging enemies on two fronts will be challenging, PROVIDED that the two enemies are Pak and China. These two are legitimate powers with ACTUAL capabilities, quite unlike BD.

The bottom-line is, there is no conceivable scenario where BD can ensure the integrity of its sovereignty, WITHOUT external aid. Basically, you guys are desperate for a fu@k, but cant get it up without a heavy dose of viagra.

 

[kobiraaz]

hello people, F7 is an interceptor and it gives decent service. Our air force is not against India, ( just 2 hours ago a GD pilot told me that), its only for Myanmar. These F7s will do more than fine against Myanmar Air force...

 

[ebr77]

yar i am not able to understand why bd hate india almost every indian love bdesh, why ?

welcome to the forum, we don't hate you. We don't have any personal issue with you or your dog. We have some issues with your Govt and it's policies.
I recommend you to visit http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...-issues-india-bangladesh-india-relations.html and please read all the posts.

Thanks.

 

[ebr77]

hello people, F7 is an interceptor and it gives decent service. Our air force is not against India, ( just 2 hours ago a GD pilot told me that), its only for Myanmar. These F7s will do more than fine against Myanmar Air force...

It's an interceptor and also have ground bombing capabilities. This is a multi role AC . where is that guy from Myanmar>>>??? Haven't seen him since the trouble with our neighbor last time.

 

[TheRafael00000]

Bangladesh won't be a threat to India. It is impractical to think that Bangladesh may attack India. Bangladesh do think that Barma is a threat as they are backed up by West. A probable invasion to Barma can trigger the skirmish and Barma will take the situation for it's own advantages. It is better to send a allied force of Pakistan,Bangladesh & Sri lanka with the observers like China & Iran. The precaution is not to strain relation between Bangladesh and India cause it may cause Bangladesh facing struggle all over it's border. China and Iran have the power to intervene and we should keep away from Malaysia in this course, as right now they have lots to do to intervene any skirmish in Philippine. The principal matter is -- India must not be threatened. A crystal clear relation is necessary to complete any intervene in Barma. We should also not forget the consequences of failing and should double check it before taking any step.

 

[Armstrong]

hello people, F7 is an interceptor and it gives decent service. Our air force is not against India, ( just 2 hours ago a GD pilot told me that), its only for Myanmar. These F7s will do more than fine against Myanmar Air force...

Dunno how different *better* it is when compared with the F-7PGs that we fly because if its anything like that then I do know it would be a deadly dog-fighter (I read somewhere that some of the later models of the F-7s are comparable to the earlier model F-16s in terms of maneuverability which in turn was a better dog-fighter than later model F-16s or so I've read). In WVR range...its more than a threat for most aircrafts out there.

 

[eastwatch]

In case of war between India and China, tanks won't come into the picture. Also, there was not a single bullet fired across the LAC even when their higher than mountain friend was getting royally screwed in '71 or '99.. Anyways, almost all of you BD people are acting as insecure kids..

A simple reply saying China wouldn't try to do something which is frowned upon in BD would have sufficed. After all friendship goes both way isn't it ?

Grow up kids !!

Your pathetic response not for responding. If you are such a tiger why do you guys have to threat Bangladesh in this forum time to time? Thing is your generals know about your limits. IA CANNOT fight in two fronts simultaneously, period. So, keep pon wooing our favour and love if India wants to survive. We do not feel insecured, it is Indians who are. This is why you guys pretend to be Sher, while you are just bunch of cats. Stop bickering with IA strength. We have seen much of IA craps in 1971.

 

[eastwatch]

Considering the fact that Bangladesh has no existential threats, and considering the fact that even if they acquire J20s AGAINST India (there is however no reason to do so), in similar numbers they wont be able to do anything to the IAF, I guess for their existing air defense requirements the F7 is a really good jet. It is also good value for money. After all they are not acquiring second hand jets, but brand new ones built on order. The jet even though outdated when compared to India, Pakistan and China, will still pack a punch and defend BD airspace effectively.

One has to also consider that China worked on this Jet for almost 15 years. The documents and tech specs they got from Soviet Union was full of defects and incomplete. By 1985 the Chinese had got it to Russian standards, so am sure in the next 20 years they would have come up with some improvements of their own. So yes, a cost effective jet to do the required job. Good decision by the BD government.

More to what you have stated there are others. The suffix 'I' of BGI stands for Improved. Read the excerpts below from a defence magazine to know the new BGIs are really an improved version of BG.

"As of 2012 it was reported that in 2011 China had agreed to a $800 million arms sale, the details of which were made public in late April 2012. It includes 16 (a squadron) F-7 BGI fighter planes and radar equipment. One squadron of stop-gap light fighter Chengdu F-7BGI had been ordered for delivery in 2012. These aircrafts are a new variant equipped with advanced avionics, including HOTAS Contol, three MFD display and HUD. The aircraft are equipped with both air-to-air and GPS guided munitions. These F-7s were ordered to replace the BAF's aging A-5Cs & f-7MBs and act as a 'stop gap'."

Mullahs are speaking against this purchase only because it is an AL success.

 

[Imran Khan]

congs new birds dudes

 

[gslv mk3]

Your pathetic response not for responding. If you are such a tiger why do you guys have to threat Bangladesh in this forum time to time? Thing is your generals know about your limits. IA CANNOT fight in two fronts simultaneously, period. So, keep pon wooing our favour and love if India wants to survive. We do not feel insecured, it is Indians who are. This is why you guys pretend to be Sher, while you are just bunch of cats. Stop bickering with IA strength. We have seen much of IA craps in 1971.

That much of IA men help Mukti Bahini when they were losing to West Pakistanis

What a cheap inferiority complex