China economy boost the Navy, 6th 052C DDG finished next 055

[BoQ77]

Thailand has purchased four Chinese Jianghu-class FFGs and two improved Type IV frigates. The frigates, two being of the Chinese-made F25T class, were designed and built by the China State Shipbuilding Corp in Shanghai. The type IV frigates are HTMS Taksin (delivered in November 1995) and HTMS Naresuan. The four Jianghu-class FFGs are the HTMS Bang Pakong, HTMS Chao Phraya (delivered in 1991), HTMS Saiburi, and HTMS Kraburi . The ships were purchased at "friendship prices" of 2,000 million baht each, compared to the 8,000 million baht price tag for Western-built frigates.

Apparently, these frigates proved less than impressive to the Thai Navy. The quality of workmanship of the frigate was said to be inferior, and considerable rework was needed to bring the vessels up to acceptable standards. The ability of the ships to resist battle damage was extremely limited, and damage control facilities were virtually non-existent. Fire-suppression systems were rudimentary, and it appeared that were the hull breached rapid flooding would quickly lead to the loss of the ship.

 

[cnleio]

The Type 054 A,

Later 054B-class will change the top radar of 054A to a small AESA radar ...

054A's hot-launched VLS

Thailand has purchased four Chinese Jianghu-class FFGs and two improved Type IV frigates. The frigates, two being of the Chinese-made F25T class, were designed and built by the China State Shipbuilding Corp in Shanghai. The type IV frigates are HTMS Taksin (delivered in November 1995) and HTMS Naresuan. The four Jianghu-class FFGs are the HTMS Bang Pakong, HTMS Chao Phraya (delivered in 1991), HTMS Saiburi, and HTMS Kraburi . The ships were purchased at "friendship prices" of 2,000 million baht each, compared to the 8,000 million baht price tag for Western-built frigates.

Apparently, these frigates proved less than impressive to the Thai Navy. The quality of workmanship of the frigate was said to be inferior, and considerable rework was needed to bring the vessels up to acceptable standards. The ability of the ships to resist battle damage was extremely limited, and damage control facilities were virtually non-existent. Fire-suppression systems were rudimentary, and it appeared that were the hull breached rapid flooding would quickly lead to the loss of the ship.

LOL, if they r weak as u said, Thailand couldn't buy 4x 053 and later bought other China ships. U knew China ever exported many ships to Thailand Royal Navy.

 

[BoQ77]

The Chinese sold the Type 053H, and derivatives, to foreign navies. The buyers generally found the ships to be of poor quality. One used Type 053H1 was sold to the Bangladesh Navy, with two used Type 053H1s going to the Egyptian Navy. Sonars for these ships are Echo Type 5, a development of EH-5 sonar used on Jianghu-III's, adopting LSIC technology. The stabilizers did not work, and ships that had air conditioning could only use them sparingly to save the generators. The 100 mm. gun was hand-loaded and did not have working fire-control radar. They mounted obsolete Chinese copies of the Soviet P-15 Termit anti-ship missile.

The Royal Thai Navy received four new Type 053Ts (based on the then-latest Type 053H2) in the early-1990s. Each cost ฿2 billion. Two were modified with rear helicopter decks. The sonar on these ships is SJD-5A, a further development of Echo Type 5 sonars on the same class of ships sold to Egyptian and Bangladesh navies, with VLSIC repalcing LSIC. The interior wiring was exposed and had to be rewired. The damage control system, notably the fire-suppression system and water-tight locks, was also poor; it was expected a hull breach would lead to rapid flooding and the loss of the ship. The Thai Navy spent considerable time and effort to correct some of the issues.

 

[IsaacNewton]

type 054a is truly an impressive ship.

It is most cost effective ship capable of VLS. I think if a type 054a equivalent was built in USA or Japan, it would cost 600-700ish million. China did so with only 250 million because of cheap chinese labor.

The Chinese sold the Type 053H, and derivatives, to foreign navies. The buyers generally found the ships to be of poor quality. One used Type 053H1 was sold to the Bangladesh Navy, with two used Type 053H1s going to the Egyptian Navy. Sonars for these ships are Echo Type 5, a development of EH-5 sonar used on Jianghu-III's, adopting LSIC technology. The stabilizers did not work, and ships that had air conditioning could only use them sparingly to save the generators. The 100 mm. gun was hand-loaded and did not have working fire-control radar. They mounted obsolete Chinese copies of the Soviet P-15 Termit anti-ship missile.

The Royal Thai Navy received four new Type 053Ts (based on the then-latest Type 053H2) in the early-1990s. Each cost ฿2 billion. Two were modified with rear helicopter decks. The sonar on these ships is SJD-5A, a further development of Echo Type 5 sonars on the same class of ships sold to Egyptian and Bangladesh navies, with VLSIC repalcing LSIC. The interior wiring was exposed and had to be rewired. The damage control system, notably the fire-suppression system and water-tight locks, was also poor; it was expected a hull breach would lead to rapid flooding and the loss of the ship. The Thai Navy spent considerable time and effort to correct some of the issues.

Dude, 2 billion thai dollars is like ~50 million back then. You shouldn't expect a 50 million dollar ship to be as effective as an Ageis destroyer that cost anywhere from 1700-2200 million.

 

[Genesis]

Lord have mercy on you. So what's the time frame? 2050? And I see your biggest assumption is.....the USN will NOT be building even a Speed Boat. Let alone AC's?

You realize you are building a 1970's NAVY right? Excessive amounts of carriers and a barrage of ships may be good for littoral waters and to protect the trade route due to presence, in War time, the concepts and the doctrines have changed. You are still stuck in 1980's and 1990's doctrine from the large display of ships, its obvious.

The future is X-47's flying undetected and using Hypersonic weapons (also undetected) from hundreds of miles away with unmanned Fighter - Bombers and some -35's seeing anything that flies 800 miles away and sharing that with other assets. Can you feel the future.....?

yes, because we are also doing exactly that, our own stealth drone, hypersonic weapons, we are about the same progress, bombers, there are talks, unconfirmed, but looks to be closer to the Russian version of it with stealth features added, and obviously modern tech, as to stealth fighters, really, you haven't heard?

The Chinese sold the Type 053H, and derivatives, to foreign navies. The buyers generally found the ships to be of poor quality. One used Type 053H1 was sold to the Bangladesh Navy, with two used Type 053H1s going to the Egyptian Navy. Sonars for these ships are Echo Type 5, a development of EH-5 sonar used on Jianghu-III's, adopting LSIC technology. The stabilizers did not work, and ships that had air conditioning could only use them sparingly to save the generators. The 100 mm. gun was hand-loaded and did not have working fire-control radar. They mounted obsolete Chinese copies of the Soviet P-15 Termit anti-ship missile.

The Royal Thai Navy received four new Type 053Ts (based on the then-latest Type 053H2) in the early-1990s. Each cost ฿2 billion. Two were modified with rear helicopter decks. The sonar on these ships is SJD-5A, a further development of Echo Type 5 sonars on the same class of ships sold to Egyptian and Bangladesh navies, with VLSIC repalcing LSIC. The interior wiring was exposed and had to be rewired. The damage control system, notably the fire-suppression system and water-tight locks, was also poor; it was expected a hull breach would lead to rapid flooding and the loss of the ship. The Thai Navy spent considerable time and effort to correct some of the issues.

and then we improved, type 56 was born and the Thais came right back, see that's progress, today we have build 23 I think last count of these babies, with 100ish on the cards.

Our ship building is maturing, quality improves with more money and ship farrying and building experience.

Type 56 is a very mature ship capable of doing multiple mods, none of the exported versions are the same.

If Vietnam cool down, you can buy a few of these as well, the cost to effect is ridiculously good.

 

[sweetgrape]

Thailand has purchased four Chinese Jianghu-class FFGs and two improved Type IV frigates. The frigates, two being of the Chinese-made F25T class, were designed and built by the China State Shipbuilding Corp in Shanghai. The type IV frigates are HTMS Taksin (delivered in November 1995) and HTMS Naresuan. The four Jianghu-class FFGs are the HTMS Bang Pakong, HTMS Chao Phraya (delivered in 1991), HTMS Saiburi, and HTMS Kraburi . The ships were purchased at "friendship prices" of 2,000 million baht each, compared to the 8,000 million baht price tag for Western-built frigates.

Apparently, these frigates proved less than impressive to the Thai Navy. The quality of workmanship of the frigate was said to be inferior, and considerable rework was needed to bring the vessels up to acceptable standards. The ability of the ships to resist battle damage was extremely limited, and damage control facilities were virtually non-existent. Fire-suppression systems were rudimentary, and it appeared that were the hull breached rapid flooding would quickly lead to the loss of the ship.

You want buy brand new BMW with money just can for low end VW car? find you are still that funny and ignorant, let Japan or USA meet your need, you can spend zero, just beg them, hehe!

 

[BoQ77]

We could build ourselves. Thanks !!!

 

[Edison Chen]

We will bury any invader deep under the sea.

 

[sweetgrape]

We could build ourselves. Thanks !!!

But it is inferior to USA and Japan ship, and cheap, why now you don't complain your ship worse?

 

[terranMarine]

We will bury any invader deep under the sea.

Well Viet said they are gonna ambush us when we build our islands in SCS

 

[BoQ77]

But it is inferior to USA and Japan ship, and cheap, why now you don't complain your ship worse?

We build ships to coop with them, not to confront them. You?
Vietnam get order to manufacture warship for Australia, it's not so inferior.

 

[sweetgrape]

We build ships to coop with them, not to confront them. You?

Hehe, Good logic, so what do your ship to confront? China? your ship is better than China? Navy ship or fishing boat?
And what do the ship we sell to Thail to confront?

Vietnam get order to manufacture warship for Australia, it's not so inferior.

Can I laugh?

Can't understand you logic, We China has made almost everything for the world, much more than other country, whether China is most developed country?!

 

[BoQ77]

good logic is to which China warships built to confront? could them compete ?

 

[sweetgrape]

good logic is to which China warships built to confront? could them compete ?

You still can't understand, can you? still compare VW low end care to BMW.
If Thail pay same price or little less, China can build better ship for her.

 

[BoQ77]

If Thail pay same price or little less, China can build better ship for her.

can you?
Thai order is for prototypes of 053H2. So that was.