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When did I say that anyone here is a military expert? Do you seriously not read anything that others say?
Your reasoning is dumb! You speak urdu, do you know what secret projects that Pakistan Army are conducting? Do you have contacts within the army? No, you don't.
@Deino @Shotgunner51 I seriously recommend banning this dude, his insulting manner is disgusting.
That doesn't mean you have insider knowledge, that just means you either read a fucking article, or watched news. YOU do not have insider knowledge."considering that every single member on here is basing their opinions on guess work"
Really, every one is here basing their opinions on guess work?
Is the opinion of CCTV-4, which claims "“歼20隐身战机发动机零部件的加工和最终装配都是在中国航发黎明公司工装制造厂进行的”
"The J-20 stealth fighter's engine part, tooling and final assembly were all completed in the assembly factory of AECC Shenyang Liming Group Co. Ltd."
also based on guess work, not authoritative insider knowledge?
Thanks for this spacious and vacuous claim to white wash Mr. Deino's groundless and insistent trolling that J-20 is flying with a Russian made AL-31-FN-M2 engine, not indigenous Chinese made engine.
He has offered not one thread of evidence to back up his claims other than pictures of the exhaust nozzles.
Also, just because the J-20 has indigenous engines being developed, it does not mean that the J-20 is currently using indigenous engines.
Cum hoc ergo propter hoc.
Way to jump the shark.
Becos we speak Chinese, all important documentary interview with chief designer, vice or president of AVIC, give interview in Chinese. If you want the best source of Chinese military news. These documentary, report and interview are the best source to know the latest upcoming of Chinese development. Far more better than and English military expert who know nothing about Chinese. You don't know Chinese, you don't know what PLA try to disclose to the world. That is Chinese way and no other way unless you change CPC. Don't tell me those chief designer and engineer know nothing, only western one is authentic. I am sick of this kind of stereotypes BS.
Do not use western method to gauge China. If so, it will be same like saying western democracy government system is equal to communist socialist system of China. You method of looking at China military using western view will never work.
Bear in mind, many of those Chinese chief designer in fact are very humble. They will not claim their product is world class or leading without substantial proof. They will not make tall claim which can never materialize. Because they need to be answerable to their superior if tall claim
Is not achievable. Unlike many fabricated are lies by the western media about Chinese making unsubstantial claim.
While I appreciate your detailed reply, I would ask that you not assume things about my views.
Anyway, in the end, my comments stand.
We do not know how accurate the information we get is, because so much info is classified, and numbers given tend to never be truly accurate (this is true for every military in the world, including China). It is NOT because the Chinese engineers and designers are lying, but rather requirements change and issue crop up that end up changing the initial plan.
Until the fighter is fully operational and deployed, and not still in development, take everything with a grain of salt.
As for @Deino my issue isn't if he's right or wrong, but rather my message to @pakistanipower was not to simply insult him, just because he happened to disagree.
Just like you and @Asok are sick and tired of foreigners dismissing China's achievements, I'm sick of some Chinese and Pakistani members dismissing foreign opinions because they're "western" or "bias".