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French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian heads to the Central African Republic on Sunday to formally end Operation Sangaris, begun three years ago to halt mass killings there but which failed to disarm militias terrorising the population.

The formal end to the French mission comes as a fresh wave of bloodshed shook the troubled nation, spearheaded by rival Muslim and Christian militia groups.

"France is not giving up on Central Africa," Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault said on Thursday, highlighting the presence of more than 10,000 UN peacekeepers from the MINUSCA mission.

But many Central Africans are worried about the departure of the French troops, who were urgently deployed following a wave of bloodshed in December 2013.

"Armed groups are getting ready. And I'm afraid they will start an all-out offensive when the French have left," a senior political figure told AFP, requesting anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject.

"The militias fear the French troops but not the UN force."

In recent weeks, people have been living in fear as armed groups have resumed their acts of violence in the interior of the country, leaving dozens dead.

On Thursday and Friday alone, at least 25 people were killed, among them six members of the security forces following clashes in the central town of Bambari and the surrounding area, MINUSCA said.

Mass killings

Armed groups have flourished over the years given the weakness of the state.

Among the main culprits are factions from the mostly-Muslim former Seleka rebel force, and the Christian anti-Balaka militias.

But there are also vigilante groups made up of nomadic Fulani herders, who are predominantly Muslim as well as others which specialise in highway robbery.

One of the world's poorest countries, the Central African Republic has scarcely emerged from the chaos of civil war which erupted in 2013 following the overthrow of then president Francoise Bozize, a Christian, by Muslim rebels from the Seleka coalition who installed their own leader.

Christians who comprise about 80 percent of the population then organized vigilante units -- dubbed "anti-Balaka" in reference to the machetes used by the rebels -- which then began to target Muslims, plunging the country into a crisis.

According to Human Rights Watch, the Seleka and anti-Balaka groups committed widespread abuses against civilians, including killings, sexual violence, and destruction of private, public and religious properties, causing mass displacement.

French troops backed by a UN mandate arrived in December 2013. A month later, the Seleka president was forced to step down following massive international pressure over his failure to end the violence.

'A success'

Despite this explosive cocktail, France, the former colonial power, decided earlier this year to end its mission in the country with Le Drian telling parliament earlier this month that the operation had been "a success".

"We stopped the mass killings... allowed a process of intercommunal reconciliation, the reconstitution of the state, a presidential election, and legislative elections," he said during a debate.

"Even if stability has not been entirely restored, it is important now... that this role be handed over to the Central African forces and the UN mission."

Around 350 French troops, equipped with observation drones, will remain present, around 100 of whom will be deployed with the UN, the French government says.

Allegations of child rape

The French operation has not been entirely smooth, with its troops coming under intense pressure since July 2014 over allegations of child rape.

Despite the troubling claims, fears of a return to violence have triggered concern among Central African civilians over the imminent pullout.

"I think there is a sense of unfinished business which risks plunging the country back into a much worse situation," said a teacher called Edgar Ngbaba.

"I don't believe in this withdrawal at all," said Marie Ndoinam, a trader.

And the worry of Bangui residents is only fuelled by news filtering through from the interior of the country.

According to several Central African sources contacted by AFP, several hundreds of heavily-armed Seleka gunmen from rival factions have begun gathering in Batangafo, some 350 kilometres (220 miles) north of Bangui.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20161030/central-african-militias-gather-as-french-troops-leave
 
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Well,you tried....

Well,despite the french army's limited presence (2,500 soldiers),it achieved more than the entire African Union + South African troops could achieve despite them deploying more ressources in the country. (May I remind that CAR is nearly the same size as France)
The army destroyed SELEKA groups and disarmed as much people as possible and brought peace back to many cities/neighborhoods who were involved in inter religious clashes and massacres.
There were even peacefully organized presidential elections....
While France was removing part of its troops and gave control to the UN troops,the situation became more and more instable,groups re-arming themselves and massacres re-started. The army will keep a rapid reaction force of 350 soldiers to help the UN troops if asked,but I wonder if we won't send even more soldiers next time and to intervene again.... seems like we were the only one capable of bringing peace and order back ,seeing that UN/African troops are uncapable to do it.

@waz
 
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Well,despite the french army's limited presence (2,500 soldiers),it achieved more than the entire African Union + South African troops could achieve despite them deploying more ressources in the country. (May I remind that CAR is nearly the same size as France)
The army destroyed SELEKA groups and disarmed as much people as possible and brought peace back to many cities/neighborhoods who were involved in inter religious clashes and massacres.
There were even peacefully organized presidential elections....
While France was removing part of its troops and gave control to the UN troops,the situation became more and more instable,groups re-arming themselves and massacres re-started. The army will keep a rapid reaction force of 350 soldiers to help the UN troops if asked,but I wonder if we won't send even more soldiers next time and to intervene again.... seems like we were the only one capable of bringing peace and order back ,seeing that UN/African troops are uncapable to do it.

@waz

It's a hellhole my friend. They will always resort back to child rape, mass murder, robbery and every other ill. The French government has made a wise choice, why waste French lives trying to tame these filth? I remember the French intervention in Mali and some incredibly misinformed people saying it was to do with uranium, even though their reserves were not readily mined, and that France obtained it mostly from Niger. So what did the French get out of this? CAR has nothing.
I find it hilarious they can't even copy the likes of Senegal who have managed to solve their problems, and now push ahead for a brighter future. I'd just say keep helping the countries that are at least trying e.g. as mentioned Senegal and Niger, just leave the ones who can't even be bothered.
 
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Islam and Christianity forced upon Natives by occupied people have fckred up the people of Africa in an inter religion conflict which will continue for decades. Sadly.
 
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I think the Christians would have been wiped out if they hadn't formed a militia.....
 
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Islam and Christianity forced upon Natives by occupied people have fckred up the people of Africa in an inter religion conflict which will continue for decades. Sadly.


It has nothing to do with religion in there.They could all pray to mushroom gods but in the end they would still fight on tribal lines or whatever excuse it might come up.Sadly as it may sound,it's just Sub Saharan Africans being Sub Saharan Africans.
 
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It has nothing to do with religion in there.They could all pray to mushroom gods but in the end they would still fight on tribal lines or whatever excuse it might come up.Sadly as it may sound,it's just Sub Saharan Africans being Sub Saharan Africans.

That's not the point. Being either one of those two gets financial support from world for the same. I dont think without finance and weapons these "tribals" will be fighting an high intensity conflict.
 
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That's not the point. Being either one of those two gets financial support from world for the same. I dont think without finance and weapons these "tribals" will be fighting an high intensity conflict.

It's safe to say that nobody arms the bickering parties in CAR.Have you seen some footage from there ?

Most Christian militias had matchetes and some ww1 rifles and the Muslims weren't better.No TOW missiles in there,that's for sure.
 
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It's safe to say that nobody arms the bickering parties in CAR.Have you seen some footage from there ?

Most Christian militias had matchetes and some ww1 rifles and the Muslims weren't better.No TOW missiles in there,that's for sure.

Muslim militias (SELEKA) had superior equipments such as mortar equipments,mines,RPGs,kalachnikovs,machine guns,even anti aerial guns....
While the christian militias (ANTI-BALAKA) were equipped with some very old carbines,hunting rifles but most with matchetes,knifes and so on.

The french sappers weren't unemployed,that's for sure.

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I think the Christians would have been wiped out if they hadn't formed a militia.....

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Throughout history smaller populations have succeeded in eliminating far larger groups, so the scenario put forth by OffEAT is entirely plausible.

With the support of larger more powerful Countries yes, but isolated?
 
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Muslim militias (SELEKA) had superior equipments such as mortar equipments,mines,RPGs,kalachnikovs,machine guns,even anti aerial guns....
While the christian militias (ANTI-BALAKA) were equipped with some very old carbines,hunting rifles but most with matchetes,knifes and so on.

The french sappers weren't unemployed,that's for sure.

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Somebody should have evened the balanced then.

Still,I saw some Christian militias in a documentary...Christians my a%%! savagers hell bent on killing....
 
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