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First, a full scale attack by U.S. against Pakistan is unlikely to happen. Otherwise, WWIII will be very likely to just start.

As for China's involvement, you seem to doubt China's will throughout. If China is really as what you have expected, China's involvement in Korea, Vietnam, direct conflict with India, U.S. and U.S.S.R. is just really inconceivable. As far as who is juvenile, let history decide.

As for the weapons from China, well, it is very simple: quality and quantity. I believe China can make improvement on both during war time for those on the way to Pakistan.

Conservative in what way...man??? How hard is this question to understand...China has been giving military help to Pakistan from decades....what does being conservative means here??? Are you saying China is depriving Pak of leathal weapons and now will open gates to them??? If yes then what weapons are you pointing to???


And this will remain the same status quo...If you think otherwise then i am sorry but your reading about geo-politics is a bit juvenile...



You are all over the place here...However let me make it myself more apparent here...Pakistan had enough weapons in her arsenal to retaliate against this attack...They need no chinese support for it but political will....However no chinese support can help them sustain a full-fledge American onslaught...Like it or not but both the statements are correct...
 
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Really, if China warning is really that ineffective, why the heck N. VN kept almost all of its military facilities along China borders??? Don't forget, you sent many of your army elites to China for training during vietnam war.

As for Cambodia, China's move is that hard for you to understand? You have not learn one of the famous 36 计: 围魏救赵???
Bcz this area have lots of mountain , so it can easily hide all of our military facilities inside those mountains , of course you helped VN alots during Vn war , but I just tell you the truth that US didn't care about your warning, so he still bombed Ha Noi to stone age in 1972.

btw: what is famous 36 ??any ways, China returned all of VN mountains that occupied in 1984 already even it made lots of PLA veterans so angry bcz their fellows died for Nothing in battles:cool:
 
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Well, you had better ask U.S. whether it cared about China's warnings.

As for others, it is out of the scope of this topic, I won't waste time with you here.
 
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A fair and unbiased approach to this problem would be selling Pakistan some ICBMs.

I thought China was a friend of Pak.

Friends do not give tools to friends to self destruct. What would Pak do with ICBMs ? Fire them at US / NATO ?

..and what then ?

If China really wants to help then it ought to help the nation stabilse & stand on its own feet and get the fundmentalist tag removed.This would help religious fundamentalism spreading to China too.
 
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I thought China was a friend of Pak.

Friends do not give tools to friends to self destruct. What would Pak do with ICBMs ? Fire them at US / NATO ?

..and what then ?

If China really wants to help then it ought to help the nation stabilse & stand on its own feet and get the fundmentalist tag removed.This would help religious fundamentalism spreading to China too.

Pakistan is a responsible nuclear power that would not undertake any aggressive unilateral actions. Indeed, every time it has been foreign countries attacking Pakistan which tries to defend itself the best it can.

A nation can be stable only when it has peace. Peace can only be stable when it is backed with military force.
 
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Pakistan is a responsible nuclear power that would not undertake any aggressive unilateral actions. Indeed, every time it has been foreign countries attacking Pakistan which tries to defend itself the best it can.

A nation can be stable only when it has peace. Peace can only be stable when it is backed with military force.

Where have you got this info from ?

1965 began with Op Gibraltar started by Ayub

1971 began with Pre emptive strikes on five Indian airfields.

Kargil began when Pak occupied Indian territory.

No one here is a damsel in distress

@ the subject , how will ICBMs help fundamentalism which is at the root of Pak problems ?
 
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Where have you got this info from ?

1965 began with Op Gibraltar started by Ayub

1971 began with Pre emptive strikes on five Indian airfields.

Kargil began when Pak occupied Indian territory.

No one here is a damsel in distress

@ the subject , how will ICBMs help fundamentalism which is at the root of Pak problems ?

Hey troll go deal with your fundamentalism first you are murdering your own people and your terrorist even won elections.
 
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Hey troll go deal with your fundamentalism first you are murdering your own people and your terrorist even won elections.

In your haste to find fault you have ingnored a basic premise.

The power to change lies with the ppl in India not with the IA or the religious fundamantalists.

Change happens thru the ballot and by no other means. If any orgnisation wishes to contest elections so be it provided it is legal.

Thats the point I wanted to make and thats where China if it is really a friend ought to help Pak.
 
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In your haste to find fault you have ingnored a basic premise.

The power to change lies with the ppl in India not with the IA or the religious fundamantalists.

Change happens thru the ballot and by no other means. If any orgnisation wishes to contest elections so be it provided it is legal.

Thats the point I wanted to make and thats where China if it is really a friend ought to help Pak.

Ya china is real brother to us stop worrying about our relations , we will call even Chinese help when its needed , for now we can deal with enemy our self . :pakistan::cheers::china:

Before pointing finger to Pakistan about extremism go look at your mass murderer terrorist sitting well in your assemblies.
 
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China paper slams US over Pakistan raid

An influential state-run Chinese newspaper has accused the United States of violating international law and fanning the flames of terrorism after NATO strikes killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.

The strongly-worded editorial, which was published on Tuesday in the People's Daily - mouthpiece of China's ruling Communist party - came after Beijing said it was "deeply shocked" by the strikes, which have exacerbated tensions between Islamabad and Washington.

"The United States and NATO have violated international law and international norms," the paper said in an editorial condemning the attacks.

"This shows... that at crucial moments, the United States will not show the slightest hesitation to violate the sovereignty of another nation to ensure its 'absolute security'."

The use of such cross-border tactics will only incite terrorist sentiment, the editorial added.

"The soil nurturing terrorism will become even more fertile, and terrorist activities will become more widespread," it said.

Pakistan has reacted furiously to what it called an "unprovoked" strike, worsening US-Pakistani relations already in crisis after the killing in May of Osama bin Laden north of Islamabad by US special forces.

Washington has backed a full inquiry into Saturday's incident and sent its condolences, while NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen on Sunday voiced regret over the "tragic, unintended" killings, but did not issue a full apology.

China is one of Pakistan's closest allies and the main arms supplier to Islamabad, which sees Beijing as an important counter-balance to its traditional rival India.

The two countries conducted joint military exercises over the weekend, while Beijing has built two nuclear power plants in Pakistan and is contracted to construct two more reactors.

Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi spoke to his Pakistani counterpart Hina Rabbani Khar on Monday and expressed shock over the attacks, a government statement said.

"All nations of the world and international organisations should fully respect Pakistan's independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity," Yang said, according to the statement.

China paper slams US over Pakistan raid

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Bro, China warned US to stop bombing N.VN but US still bombed Ha Noi to stone age in 1972, China also warn VN stop attacking Cambodia in 1979 , but you did't send any troop to help Pol Pot .

It seems your warning only have effect in N.Korea where China sent warning under USSR order and protection :cool:

No one is interested in your pathetic vn war any more go trolling some where else you retard.

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Bcz this area have lots of mountain , so it can easily hide all of our military facilities inside those mountains , of course you helped VN alots during Vn war , but I just tell you the truth that US didn't care about your warning, so he still bombed Ha Noi to stone age in 1972.

btw: what is famous 36 ??any ways, China returned all of VN mountains that occupied in 1984 already even it made lots of PLA veterans so angry bcz their fellows died for Nothing in battles:cool:

You retard viet just had to troll and derail every thread are you the spoke person for PLA veterans?
 
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China has no obligation to defend us- or do some thing for us-
Its on us Pakistanis- we'll have to do some thing ourselves-

We cannot sit silent and expect others to do our dirty work-
 
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guys, you really need to learn and respond.

U.S is still Pakistan's ally. unless the brother requests help, china is not going to respond openly. U.S won't take it as U.S 's action, it's NATO's.
but i'm suggesting China should leverage Shanghai cooperation xxx (i forgot) to do s.th to give signal to NATO, that Pakistan is a brother in arms, they can't cross the red line.:pakistan:

however, chinese government and media are dumb, generally speaking.
 
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No one is interested in your pathetic vn war any more go trolling some where else you retard.

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You retard viet just had to troll and derail every thread are you the spoke person for PLA veterans?
Then stop you hollow 'warning' , send troops and best weapons to help your friend now, let shoot down some NATO choppers to show that even with one child policy but China parents still willing to sacrifice their children to another nation :cool:

it's much better if a Big mouth like you should hold the gun and go to battle field to show your Gut too .
 
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