Canada suspends, fines ISNA-Canada over 'funding' Hizbul Mujahideen in India

[SQ8]

Yeah I know, but they came up with that source. LOL.

Because that is all their intellectual capacity and moral standards allow for.
They can call a rape in India “ghar wapsi” and I wont be surprised

 

[Trango Towers]

The UN is on record that it will mediate only if both parties agree to it. That is all I can say.

How else is mediation done?

 

[Vijyes Yechury]

Oh yeah? Well, guess what, India broke the Tashkent Declaration by initiating war with East Pakistan in 1971, as per Tashkent Declaration, both countries weren't supposed to get involved in each others matters, but India broke that agreement. So, here we are repaying the gift.

Pakistan attacked India first in 1971 war. India didn't attack Pakistan first. Again, meaningless statement. By the way, ever since Pakistan attacked in 1965, the other treaties like Indus water etc became void too. There is no point speaking of treaties between India and Pakistan. I am only commenting on UNO's involvement which is restricted due to Shimla treaty. The treaty may not be honoured by Pakistan or India, but that treaty can't be discarded by UNO

 

[VCheng]

This is a half-truth. Pakistan had expressed reservations to the resolution which led to the formation of the United Nations Commission for India and Pakistan and finally to Resolution 98 (1952) allowing Pakistan to deploy up to 6,000 troops and India up to 18,000.

Incorrect, this was a suggestion by the UN, not a permission:

Resolution 98 says this about this matter:

4. Urges the Governments of India and Pakistan to enter into immediate negotiations under the auspices of the United Nations Representative for India and Pakistan in order to reach agreement on the specific number of forces to remain on each side of the cease-fire line at the end of the period of demilitarization, this number to be between 3,000 and 6,000 armed forces remaining on the Pakistan side of the cease-fire line and between 12,000 and 18,000 armed forces remaining on the India side of the cease-fire line, as suggested by the United Nations Representative in his proposals of 16 July 1952," such specific numbers to be arrived at bearing in mind the principles or criteria contained in paragraph 7 of the United Nations Representative's proposal of 4 September 1952.

 

[Laozi]

Come up with something better or agree to disagree in your argument and move on.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/jammu-and-kashmir-removed-from-list-of-disputes-under-un-439267

https://www.dnaindia.com/india/repo...ps-kashmir-from-pending-disputes-list-1467275

I rest my case

regards

 

[MultaniGuy]

Incorrect, this was a suggestion by the UN, not a permission:

Resolution 98 says this about this matter:

4. Urges the Governments of India and Pakistan to enter into immediate negotiations under the auspices of the United Nations Representative for India and Pakistan in order to reach agreement on the specific number of forces to remain on each side of the cease-fire line at the end of the period of demilitarization, this number to be between 3,000 and 6,000 armed forces remaining on the Pakistan side of the cease-fire line and between 12,000 and 18,000 armed forces remaining on the India side of the cease-fire line, as suggested by the United Nations Representative in his proposals of 16 July 1952," such specific numbers to be arrived at bearing in mind the principles or criteria contained in paragraph 7 of the United Nations Representative's proposal of 4 September 1952.

Contact the Dawn author then not me.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/jammu-and-kashmir-removed-from-list-of-disputes-under-un-439267

https://www.dnaindia.com/india/repo...ps-kashmir-from-pending-disputes-list-1467275

I rest my case

regards

We can agree to disagree. Kashmir is still considered a territorial dispute according to the United Nations.

I rest my case.

Regards.

 

[Lincoln]

Pakistan attacked India first in 1971 war. India didn't attack Pakistan first. Again, meaningless statement. By the way, ever since Pakistan attacked in 1965, the other treaties like Indus water etc became void too. There is no point speaking of treaties between India and Pakistan. I am only commenting on UNO's involvement which is restricted due to Shimla treaty. The treaty may not be honoured by Pakistan or India, but that treaty can't be discarded by UNO

Are you dumb or what? Why would Pakistan attack India out of nowhere whilst there's a civil war in the then East Pakistan? It was an undeclared War, Indian and Mukhti Bahini troops, together were making raids on East Pakistan territory. India initiated the War and it was made clear to Pakistan that they are supporting Mukthi Bahini, Pakistan knowing that East Pakistan could not be defended then launched air strikes from West Pakistan to divert attention and bring the War to the Western front instead of the Eastern.

 

[MultaniGuy]

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/jammu-and-kashmir-removed-from-list-of-disputes-under-un-439267

https://www.dnaindia.com/india/repo...ps-kashmir-from-pending-disputes-list-1467275

I rest my case

regards

Get neutral sources, otherwise you are just saying crap here.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Canada suspends, fines ISNA-Canada over 'funding' Hizbul Mujahideen in India
World FP Staff Oct 03, 2018 14:39:35 IST

Canadian Revenue Agency (CRA) has suspended the Islamic Society of North America-Canada (ISNA- Canada) for funding groups allegedly linked to terrorist organisations like the Hizbul Mujahideen. The CRA has banned the Mississauga-based Islamic charity organisation for a year starting from 12 September and has also ordered it to pay a fine of $5,50,000.

The Canadian government auditors have alleged that ISNA-Canada “failed to conduct any meaningful due diligence” when it transferred $1,36,000 to India's Kashmir region where groups like Hizbul Mujahideen have been in an armed conflict with the Indian forces. The CRA said that the Islamic charity has acted as a ‘conduit’ for many organisations which supports terrorist activities in other countries. “It is the CRA’s view that the society’s resources may have, directly or indirectly, been used to support the political efforts of Jamaat-e-Islami and/or its armed wing Hizbul Mujahideen,” CRA has stated, according to an India Todayreport.

According to Sputnik International, CRA audit documents reportedly allege that ISNA-Canada donated $90,000 to the Relief Organization for Kashmiri Muslims (ROKM) between 2007 and 2009 and funded an additional $46,000 to the Kashmiri Relief Fund of Canada, which had previously raised funds for the ROKM.

"Our research indicates that ROKM is the charitable arm of Jamaat-e-Islami, a political organisation that actively contests the legitimacy of India's governance over the state of Jammu and Kashmir, including reportedly through the activities of its armed wing Hizbul Mujahideen," the CRA said. The audit was conducted in 2011 and covered the period from 2007 to 2009. The results were conveyed to ISNA-Canada in 2014 but the CRA only sanctioned the charity on 5 September 2018.
ISNA- Canada Logo. Image courtesy: Twitter/@ISNA_Canada

"Providing resources to organisations operating in support of a political purpose, including the achievement of nationhood or political autonomy, are not recognised at law as charitable," the CRA said.

By acting as a "conduit" for other organisations, ISNA-Canada "may have, knowingly or unknowingly, provided the benefits of its status as a registered charity to support the efforts of a political party and its armed wing”, CRA said.

However, according to a Hindustan Times' report, the Charities Directorate has not revoked ISNA-Canada’s charity status but the group was required to enter a compliance agreement whereby it must “cease its overseas operations”.

According to a Global News article, ISNA Islamic Services of Canada was stripped of its charitable status for “non-compliance,” according to records obtained by Global News. Authorities also revoked a related charity, the Canadian Islamic Trust Foundation. Both are former affiliates of the Islamic Society of North America-Canada (ISNA-Canada), and shared its Mississauga, Ontario, address.

However, the ISNA-Canada has denied all the allegations levelled against it by the CRA. “We are saddened by this outcome," ISNA-Canada said in a written statement, another Global News article said.

According to the report, ISNA- Canada has also denied any links to terrorism and has said that it has in fact made "progressive and important changes” to its governance and in "how it operates as one of the largest Muslim organisations in Canada".

“We remain politically impartial and are not in any way linked to any political or extremist group,” said the organisation, adding, “We will continue our operations and remain committed to always striving to be the best possible organisation we can be in service to Canadians."

According to the Global News report, in a letter addressed to community members, ISNA-Canada chair Katherine Bullock said: "We have spent the last decade rectifying these mistakes and reforming our organisation to ensure that we have a robust governance structure in place so that the mistakes made are not repeated."

The auditors identified a number of other concerns, including "inadequate internal controls", a "third-party receipting scheme", close links to for-profit Muslim housing co-operatives and a halal certification programme that the CRA said was essentially a business. The CRA also found ISNA-Canada’s mission statement — "to advance the cause of Islam and serve Muslims in North America so as to enable them to adopt Islam as a complete way of life" — as too broad and vague to be considered exclusively charitable, according to several media reports.

ISNA-Canada runs mosques and provides services to Muslims such as weddings, funerals and "accounting services to other Islamic charities in the surrounding community". It is by far the largest such organisation with $3.1-million in reported revenues in 2016, according to the CRA.

According to India Today, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke at an ISNA-Canada event in 2013 and Canada's Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale was photographed there in April 2017, according to reports. The organisation was called the "Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)" until October 2014, when it changed its name to "Islamic Society of North America-Canada".

https://www.firstpost.com/world/can...a-islamic-charity-denies-charges-5307311.html

This is bogus and nothing but lies. ISNA is giving money to poor Kashmiris, whom the Indian state does not take responsibility for. India views all Kashmiris as enemies with what BJP calls 'terrorist blood.'

I hope the Arabs who run ISNA realize exactly the true nature of India and Hindutva politics.

 

[SQ8]

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/jammu-and-kashmir-removed-from-list-of-disputes-under-un-439267

https://www.dnaindia.com/india/repo...ps-kashmir-from-pending-disputes-list-1467275

I rest my case

regards

Yes, on biased sources which we consider worthless. So move on.

 

[MultaniGuy]

This is bogus and nothing but lies. ISNA is giving money to poor Kashmiris, whom the Indian state does not take responsibility for. India views all Kashmiris as enemies with what BJP calls 'terrorist blood.'

I hope the Arabs who run ISNA realize exactly the true nature of India and Hindutva politics.

No bro, it is true. ISNA made a mistake. It's even on Canadian media.

 

[VCheng]

Contact the Dawn author then not me.

NMFP.

Just know that any legal arguments based upon incorrect interpretations never go far, and that should be an important lesson for anyone wishing to argue such a case.

 

[MultaniGuy]

NMFP.

Just know that any legal arguments based upon incorrect interpretations never go far, and that should be an important lesson for anyone wishing to argue such a case.

What does NMFP mean?

 

[bananarepublic]

No, bro its true. Its even in Canadian news as well.

CRA suspends, fines major Islamic charity over concerns it may have ‘provided resources’ to armed militants
By Stewart Bell National Online Journalist, Investigative Global News

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A major Canadian Islamic organization has been suspended and fined by federal charities regulators following an audit that raised concerns it had “provided resources” that may have been used to support to armed militancy.

The Canada Revenue Agency said it had suspended the Islamic Society of North America-Canada (ISNA-Canada) for a year effective Sept. 12 and ordered the Mississauga-based charity to pay a $550,000 penalty.

Government auditors alleged ISNA-Canada had “failed to conduct any meaningful due diligence” when it transferred $136,000 to the war-torn Kashmir region, where the militant Hizbul Muhajideen has been fighting Indian troops.

By acting as a “conduit” for other organizations, ISNA-Canada “may have, knowingly or unknowingly, provided the benefits of its status as a registered charity to support the efforts of a political party and its armed wing,” the CRA wrote.

“It is the CRA’s view that the society’s resources may have, directly or indirectly, been used the support the political efforts of Jamaat-e-Islami and/or its armed wing Hizbul Mujahideen,” according to CRA documents.

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While the Charities Directorate did not revoke ISNA-Canada’s charity status, the group was required to enter into a compliance agreement under which it must “cease its overseas operations.”

“We are saddened by this outcome,” ISNA-Canada said in a written statement.

It denied any links to terrorism and said it had “made progressive and important changes” to its governance and “how we operate as one of the largest Muslim organizations in Canada.”

“We remain politically impartial and are not in any way linked to any political or extremist group,” the organization said. “We will continue our operations and remain committed to always striving to be the best possible organization we can be in service to Canadians.”

WATCH: Federal government revokes Islamic organization’s charity status

ISNA-Canada runs mosques and provides services to Muslims such as weddings, funerals and “accounting services to other Islamic charities in the surrounding community.”

During the suspension, it is prohibited from issuing receipts allowing donors to claim their contributions as income tax deductions.

“A suspended organization will continue to be listed on the CRA’s list of charities, with a notice advising the public that the charity is suspended. Once a suspension has been lifted, a charity can begin to issue official donation receipts,” said Dany Morin, a CRA spokesperson.

The audit was conducted in 2011 and covered the years 2007 to 2009. The results were conveyed to ISNA-Canada in 2014 but the CRA only sanctioned the charity on Sept. 5, 2018.

Syed Salahuddin (front right), leader of the Kashmiri militant group Hizbul Mujahideen, attends a rally in 2017. EPA/AMIRUDDIN MUGHAL

The CRA audit documents obtained by Global News were heavily redacted but alleged that during the audited period, ISNA-Canada “gifted” $90,000 to the Relief Organization for Kashmiri Muslims.

The CRA has previously described the ROKM as the “charitable arm” of Jamaat-e-Islami, a Pakistani group whose armed wing, Hizbul Mujahideen, is listed as a terrorist group in Europe and the United States.

The audit documents also showed that ISNA-Canada gave an additional $46,000 to the Kashmiri Relief Fund of Canada, which the CRA has previously alleged had fundraised for the ROKM.

“Providing resources to organizations operating in support of a political purpose, including the achievement of nationhood or political autonomy, are not recognized at law as charitable,” the CRA wrote.

It said a political purpose includes supporting a political party, or programs that promote a cause, doctrine, ideology “or generally seek to advocate, and bring about changes in the overall way that a society governs and manages itself.”

“In addition, Canada’s public policy recognizes that the tax advantages of charitable registration should not be extended to organizations whose resources may have been made available, knowingly or unknowingly, to a terrorist entity.”

READ MORE: Audit of B.C. mosque charity alleges personal spending, ‘relationship’ with Qatar group accused of supporting terror

The auditors identified a number of other concerns, including “inadequate internal controls,” a “third-party receipting scheme,” close links to for-profit Muslim housing co-ops and a halal certification program that the CRA said was essentially a business.

The CRA also found ISNA-Canada’s mission statement — “To advance the cause of Islam and serve Muslims in North America so as to enable them to adopt Islam as a complete way of life” — was too broad and vague to be considered exclusively charitable.

The suspension and penalty were the latest results of federal audits of four formerly affiliated Mississauga charities. ISNA Islamic Services of Canada was stripped of its charitable status last year after auditors raised concerns about possible funding of Hizbul Mujahideen. ISNA Development Foundation was stripped of its charity status in 2013 over similar concerns. The Canadian Islamic Trust Foundation’s charity status was also revoked.

An Indian policeman fires tear smoke shell on protesters during a clash in Srinagar, Indian controlled Kashmir, Monday, Feb. 15, 2016.

AP Photo/Mukhtar Khan
Of the tens of thousands of registered charities, only three are currently serving CRA suspensions.

ISNA-Canada is by far the largest, with $3.1-million in reported revenues in 2016, according to the CRA. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke at an ISNA-Canada event in 2013 and Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale was photographed there in April 2017.

A 2014 written response to the CRA audit by ISNA-Canada’s lawyers acknowledged that “not all of its practices may have been in complete compliance” but said the problems were the result of “unauthorized actions” by a former secretary-general who retired in 2011.

The lawyers said ISNA-Canada was “actively seeking legal information from our firm in order to inform the appropriate authorities at the federal and provincial level so that a criminal investigation may be commenced” against for the former secretary-general.

“The charity has had no other record of any non-compliance whatsoever. In addition, the charity has expressed its willingness to bring itself into compliance with the [Income Tax] Act in instances where there has been non-compliance and has been doing so for the past five years.”

READ MORE: India kills 5 militants trying to enter Kashmir region from Pakistan

ISNA-Canada was no longer operating overseas, it said. But it insisted it had not acted as a “conduit” but had directed that its money be used for humanitarian work in Kashmir. It also noted that “Hizbul Mujahideen was not a listed entity in Canada.”

“The charity is a prominent Muslim organization that has served Muslims locally in Canada and internationally for over 40 years. As such, it is one of the oldest and longest serving national organizations in Canada advancing the Islamic faith. At any given time the charity provides over 30 different charitable programs.”

But the CRA wrote that its concerns about ISNA-Canada “have not been fully alleviated. Specifically, our position that the society failed to devote its resources to its own charitable activities in that it gifted resources to non-qualified donees still remains.”

In a letter addressed to community members, ISNA-Canada chair Katherine Bullocksaid: “We have spent the last decade rectifying these mistakes and reforming our organization to ensure that we have a robust governance structure in place so that the mistakes made are not repeated.”

Stewart.Bell@GlobalNews.ca

https://globalnews.ca/news/4490892/...y-have-provided-resources-to-armed-militants/

Whatever, Kashmir is disputed territory. But Islamic organizations should follow the laws of the land.

why does the guy on the left have pak army cameo pants ???

 

[Indus Pakistan]

The UN is on record that it will mediate only if both parties agree to it.

To mediate means to be the interface between two. If both or only one agree to talk you cannot mediate. Thus what the UN said is given. It's like me saying "I will only clap if I can use both hands".