Britain recognition for Pakistani Soldiers in WW1/WW2

[MuZammiL Dr. s[1]n]

Mine is the fifth generation. Serving in PA.

Doesn't get any better than this

you are wariors of PakisTan ...

Live LOng & prOsper ...

 

[Steve781]

you can't blame yourself when the people from these countries didn't gave them enough recognition in the first place. Atleast we got India Gate in the memory of world war heros. I don't think any other country got such a monument after the world war heroes. I will stand corrected if anyone share it.

Irish people didn't used to like to honour their dead either because they viewed them as traitors. But many of the Irish who served in the army did so for nationalistic reasons in the hope of gaining independence. I believe the Muslim League took that view as well although Indian nationalists didn't.

 

[drimalik]

Dulmial, Pakistan- 'The Village with the Gun'
Remembering the soldiers of the First World War, 100 years on.
By Dr Irfan Malik and Michael Noble (The Centre for Hidden Histories, University of Nottingham)
A nineteenth century cannon sits at the centre of a Pakistani village. Here we take a look at the story of the Dulmial Gun.
Dulmial is a village approximately 100 miles south of Islamabad, in the Salt Range region. A century ago, the area was part of British India, which meant that its inhabitants were drawn into the Great War on the side of the Allies. A settlement steeped in military history, Dulmial sent 460 of its men to fight in the British Army, including both of Dr Malik’s great grandfathers. The largest single participation of any village in Asia. Nine gave their lives. In recognition of the significant military service and sacrifice, in 1925 the British Government offered Dulmial an award of their choosing. The man in charge of choosing was Captain Ghulam Mohammad Malik, the highest ranking and most decorated soldier of the village. The Captain was a man of great experience, having commenced his military life in the Derajet Mountain Battery and participated in Lord Robert’s famous march from Kabul to Kandahar in 1880. His photograph and achievements are documented in the book by Brig.Gen. Graham 'The History of the Indian Mountain Artillery' in 1957. A career soldier, he eschewed the British offers of land, money and water facilities, choosing instead to have Dulmial’s contribution recognised with the presentation of a cannon.
The British agreed to this selection and provided Dulmial with a twelve pounder. The cannon itself was made at Carron ironworks, in Falkirk, Scotland in 1816. It’s stand was built in Cossipore Gun Foundry, India under the leadership of Captain A. Broome, in 1847. The gun was first collected from the First Punjab Regimental Centre in Jhelum, from where it was carried by train to Chakwal. There the gun was dismounted and loaded in a cart to be pulled by three pairs of oxen for the remaining 28 kms. The roads were semi-mountainous and the passage was difficult. It would take the ox carts 2 weeks to cover the distance. From 5 kms out, at Choa Saiden Shah, the route became more difficult still and Dulmial had to dispatch 5 additional pairs of oxen to relieve the initial 6 and complete the gun’s journey.
Safely in Dulmial, the gun was placed at the centre of the village and a photograph taken with the local commissioned officers. It remains there today, a reminder of the contribution that Dulmial made in the First World War.
Dulmial is now known within Pakistan as the 'village with the gun’, but is rather less well known in the UK. This is because little has been written or published about the village in English. Dr Irfan Malik in collaboration with Michael Noble, The Centre for Hidden Histories, University of Nottingham aims to research the First World War history of the village as it played such an impressive part during that period. Since that time Dulmial has continued to produce many generations of high ranking, distinguished Army officers. It is our intention to bring this hidden history to a wider audience and help to share the reasons of just what a nineteenth century Scottish cannon is doing in the Salt Range region of Pakistan.
After informing the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London of Dulmial’s significant history, several representatives of the village attended the First World War Centenary reception at the British High Commission, Islamabad, Pakistan, on 10th November 2014. This is great honour and privilege for the inhabitants and worldwide descendants of Dulmial.

 

[Reichmarshal]

you can't blame yourself when the people from these countries didn't gave them enough recognition in the first place. Atleast we got India Gate in the memory of world war heros. I don't think any other country got such a monument after the world war heroes. I will stand corrected if anyone share it.

We got Pakistan due to the sacrifice of these brave Muslim soldiers of the sub continent......it is a pity that this fact is not high lighted at all in fact ignored.

 

[INDIC]

Irish people didn't used to like to honour their dead either because they viewed them as traitors. But many of the Irish who served in the army did so for nationalistic reasons in the hope of gaining independence. I believe the Muslim League took that view as well although Indian nationalists didn't.

Muslim League was pro-British even during world War 2, Congress were not. All of the top Congress leader were arrested during World War 2 after they organized Quit India Movement in 1942, previously all Congress ministries resigned in 1939 for dragging India in World War 2 without taking with them.

 

[ranjeet]

We got Pakistan due to the sacrifice of these brave Muslim soldiers of the sub continent......it is a pity that this fact is not high lighted at all in fact ignored.

Well if you think so, alright. I just wanted to know about about any monument which was constructed to acknowledge the sacrifice made by these bravehearts.

 

[Pakistani shaheens]

My question is how Britishers Identified soldiers as Pakistani. It was British India then and hence soldiers should be referred as British Indians. Does anyone know how they categorized?

Pakistan consists of and is land of balochis, pakthuns, Panjabis, Sindhis and Kashmiris. These Pakistanis participated in that world war. And by the way if current india and Pakistan were once under british rule then that doesn't means that we were british indians and also it doesn't change our identity as well.

 

[Pakistani shaheens]

Muslim League was pro-British even during world War 2, Congress were not. All of the top Congress leader were arrested during World War 2 after they organized Quit India Movement in 1942, previously all Congress ministries resigned in 1939 for dragging India in World War 2 without taking with them.

That's why lord Mountbatten was made first Governor General of india when india was created on 15 August 1947.

 

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[INDIC]

That's why lord Mountbatten was made first Governor General of india when india was created on 15 August 1947.

Lord Mountbatten stayed as Governor General of India to wind up the British Raj, nothing more special about it.

 

[Rafi]

British recognition of our separate identity is most welcome - in fact most academics and scientists are increasingly aware of this, species of animals are even included.
Pakicetus - the ancient ancestor of all whales and dolphins is named after Pakistan.

The ancient Pakistani identity has become a reality, the Indus Valley Civilization is Pakistani

 

[Pakistani shaheens]

British recognition of our separate identity is most welcome - in fact most academics and scientists are increasingly aware of this, species of animals are even included.
Pakicetus - the ancient ancestor of all whales and dolphins is named after Pakistan.

The ancient Pakistani identity has become a reality, the Indus Valley Civilization is Pakistani

Bro you missed one, Pakisaurus--- a dinosaur specie which was once inhabited in area which is now Pakistan

 

[Pakistani E]

About time soldiers from modern day Pakistan were given their due recognition. We have racist ***** heads wandering around in some areas of England proclaiming how Pakistanis did nothing for this country.

But what would have been even more greater was if they had build this in London or somewhere in England to remind UKIP and their fellow ***** heads about what our forefathers did.

 

[Steve781]

That's why lord Mountbatten was made first Governor General of india when india was created on 15 August 1947.

An interesting fact is that during the 1947-8 war King George VI was technically at war with himself.

 

[Steve781]

About time soldiers from modern day Pakistan were given their due recognition. We have racist ***** heads wandering around in some areas of England proclaiming how Pakistanis did nothing for this country.

But what would have been even more greater was if they had build this in London or somewhere in England to remind UKIP and their fellow ***** heads about what our forefathers did.

UKIP have a Pakistani MEP.