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Bomb Blast in Crowded Daata Darbar (Shrine), Lahore

I have no proof, but I do wonder - given the known corruption of Pakistani politicians and their mysterious sources of wealth - if they are sometimes bribed to look the other way at the existence or establishment of radical madrassas and terror institutions in their midst.

There are no doubt Taliban Sympathizers among masses as well as politicians, certainly they have a role as well, in simple words, We are all in a big mess, bloody big mess
 
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No one is shifting the whole blame to Arabs but they are certainly one of the major suppliers of money in this game of blood & fire

Pakistanis have hard time digesting that & its pretty much clear from the responses here, they didn't even knew about Arab financing

This is crystal clear that suicide bombers and terrorist are recruited from saudi funded wahabi madresass and than trained in tribal area and Afghanistan.
Now time is near to unveil the Truth.
Demolishing the shrines are their identity which cant be hide now.
imam e kaba use to visit their madresas with dollars suitcase but nawaz shareef and thier allies have no words over this issue.
 
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Can someone say Blackwater+RAW+Mossad successful planning?
I think these Afghan/Internal groups are just a proxy for the secret services underground war with the ISI. No Muslim would attack a Masjid.

muslims will not attack women & children, yet they do it,Muslims cannot attack Mosques, yet they do it,Muslims are very Tolerant, yet they want to kill any one who goes against their beliefs & so on


When are you people going to come out of that this particular mentality that a Muslim is the most innocent self righteous pious person on the face of the planet? When the fact is that all the handlers & executors of these acts of holiness are Muslims :hitwall:

I am yet to know about a Jew or a Christian who blew himself in other's holy places? WHY always its the Muslims who are ready to kill & die? There is certainly something wrong with the very foundations of the system that stands on the pillars of self righteous & superiority syndrome
 
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No one is shifting the whole blame to Arabs but they are certainly one of the major suppliers of money in this game of blood & fire

Pakistanis have hard time digesting that & its pretty much clear from the responses here, they didn't even knew about Arab financing

Other then Iran I dont know of any countries are involved in the direct support of terrorism. The USA has proscuted a number of people that were supporting terrorist organizations.

What is difficult to prevent is individuals from supporting terrorist organizations for example there was financial support from some Pakistanis financially supporting Faisal Shahzad in the New York Bombing, some group in Yemen supported the terrorist that tried to explode a bomb on a plane landing in Detroit.

Though I doubt if financial support or any kind of support from other countries have much to do with this kind of attack. Think you can examine the problem and say I have concluded the problem is me.
 
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Suicide bombers kill dozens at Pakistan shrine

Suicide bombers devastated one of Pakistan's most famous Sufi shrines last night, marking another vicious strike by violent extremists against the moderate form of Islam practised by most Pakistanis.

At least 42 people were killed and 175 injured when two bombers ripped through the Data Ganj Baksh shrine in central Lahore where thousands of people had gathered to pray, dance and listen to devotional music. The toll is expected to rise.

It was the second assault on a religious site in the city in recent months – an assault on members of the minority Ahmadi sect in late May killed 94 people – and underscored how extremists are determined to bring their bloody campaign to the heart of Punjab, Pakistan's most populous and powerful province.

The ruthless mechanics of the bombing were captured on CCTV footage and aired on television. The first bomber ran into a basement area, clutching a bag filled with explosives and ball bearings and pursued by a guard, before a large explosion swept across the room.

As the smoke cleared a presumed second bomber is seen slipping into the building, against the tide of fleeing worshippers, and running up a staircase into the main area, where he also exploded himself.

Television footage and photos showed debris and body parts scattered across the blood-stained marble courtyard of the shrine.

Angy worshippers surged through the streets outside, throwing rocks at police and attacking television broadcast vans. Police fired shots in the air to calm the crowd.

The government is considering a new media law that would prevent television stations showing graphic images from suicide attacks.

Investigators said they had recovered the heads of both suicide bombers, but there was no claim of responsibility. The Lahore commissioner, Khusro Pervaiz, blamed the attack on a "conspiracy in which locals are being used" – a euphemism often used to point the finger at neighbouring India.

Some Lahore residents blamed the attacks on the US, saying its drone attacks in the frontier were provoking militants, while others suggested the Ahmadi community – which has no history of organised violence – was taking revenge.

The most likely culprits, however, come from within Punjab. A network of hardline madrasas scattered across the province, mostly in the southern belt, is home to thousands of religious extremists.

Politicians have vowed to crack down on the militant networks following a series of attacks targeting the Sri Lankan cricket team, intelligence and police offices, and busy market places in recent years. But little action has been taken while the provincial law minister, Rana Sanaullah, has attracted controversy for allying himself with Sipah-e-Sahaba, a Sunni extremist group.

The task of "draining the swamp" is further complicated by the powerful intelligence agencies of the military, which has continued its policy of distinguishing between "good" and "bad" jihadi groups – a policy that analysts warn is dangerously destabilising.

Last night's deadly assault is not the first attack on Sufis. In March 2009 extremists in Peshawar blew up the shrine to Rahman Baba, the most celebrated Sufi of the north-west frontier region.

The glittering Data Ganj Baksh shrine is among Lahore's most famous and revered landmarks. It is devoted to Hazrat Usman Hajwery, a 12th century mystic popularly considered to be the spiritual protector of the city.

The shrine is busiest on Thursday nights when worshippers come to pray, listen to qawalli devotional music and, in some cases, smoke hashish – which, presumably, is why extremists struck last night.

Ripples of outrage spread across the country, after a relatively quiet month with no attacks in Lahore in June.

"This is a barbaric attack and should serve as a wake up call," wrote Raza Rumi, a prominent Lahore blogger. "Data Saheb's shrine is not just another crowded place – it represents a millennia of tolerant Sufi Islam which is directly under attack by the puritans."

Sufism is offensive to Muslims from the more ascetic Wahabbi and Deobandi sects, who consider worship of any saint to be heretical, and that the only access to God is through direct prayer.

This morning thousands of people flooded back into the mosque to offer funeral prayers for the dead.

Suicide bombers kill dozens at Pakistan shrine | World news | The Guardian
 
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Other then Iran I dont know of any countries are involved in the direct support of terrorism. The USA has proscuted a number of people that were supporting terrorist organizations.

What is difficult to prevent is individuals from supporting terrorist organizations for example there was financial support from some Pakistanis financially supporting Faisal Shahzad in the New York Bombing, some group in Yemen supported the terrorist that tried to explode a bomb on a plane landing in Detroit.

Though I doubt if financial support or any kind of support from other countries have much to do with this kind of attack. Think you can examine the problem and say I have concluded the problem is me.

T-Faz just [posted an article saying that Whabis are vehemently against the Sufi Version of Islam, does it rings any bells?

plus here you go....

- Sleeping With the Enemy

-Original US govt. Docs providing links of Saudi Royal family's financial links with Al-Qaeda
 
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^^^^^^

Just wait & see the E-Mullahs & Key Board Jihadis from their respective Sects are coming at you, I just don't understand why can't these people believe that religious bigotry, inter sect violence & hate exists in Pakistan :hitwall:

& damn that Stupid Rana Sanaullah, May he die by the hands of the dogs he supports
 
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you guyz derailed this topic

calm down boys........... calm down..... its not saudi related thread
 
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you guyz derailed this topic

calm down boys........... calm down..... its not saudi related thread

This thread is related with disrespect of Shrine and saudis are the pioneer of that job. SO this is 100% concern with the demolisher of shrine saudis.

Now Authorities must eliminate the people who are saying mushrik to Sufis concept Sunnis and Shias, and must shut down their all madresas and preaching activities.
 
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Don't you understand why the Saudis fund terror, be it in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Lebanon, or Israel? It isn't all about religion. It's because as long as people are putting out fires in distant places they will be too busy to do anything about the volcano that spouted fire in the first place. The Sauds conquered Arabia and keep most of the wealth of the land themselves. Apart from the royals, the human inhabitants of the Kingdom are subjects who are thrown crumbs, not citizens who could demand welfare and government services as other peoples do. That is what the Sauds want to keep people from doing anything about. It's the same attitude as Iran's mullahs, but to a lesser extent.
 
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This culture of denial is not going solve our problem. Talking about a phantom must stop.

Sadly this phantom has guns that fire, grenades that blow up and bombs that smash people to smithereens. And we can only stand and watch. Is that all we can do?
 
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