Boeing Wants Washington To Clear F-15EX Pitch To India

[Wood]

How many Su30s were lost by that logic? Su30 is slightly bigger than F15 (15% by weight), is more maneuverable with thrust vectoring and can carry higher fuel and hence higher endurance. I don't see how Su30 can be worse than F15

How much of thrust vectoring will actually be used in BVR?

Superior service life, (likely higher) availability with reliable engines, better avionics and EW suite are tempting indeed. How much of these advantages will be offset by the Super Sukhoi upgrade remains to be seen.

 

[KungFuLee]

Alarming news, if true.

Boeing's Indian-origin lead is doing wonders for his birth country.

Weren't both Boeing Chairman and CEO are German descent?

Dave Calhoun is the CEO and Larry Kellner is the chairman?

 

[CONNAN]

I find the deal would go through. Transfer of technology was previously an issue which USA didn't agree as much as India wanted. After Rafel's purchase, I don't think India is after TOT as it wanted under MMRCA.

But India is creating itself more and more technological mess. In IT, we call it "technological debt" and that debt eventually kills software businesses. Its military version is in making in India.

Too bad India has already signed up a deal with Rafael.

graphican adding to your post

I wonder whether those of our political masters who have been put in charge of the defence of the country can distinguish a mortar from a motor; a gun from a howitzer; a guerrilla from a gorilla, although a great many resemble the latter --- Field Marshal Sam Hormusji Framji Jamshedji Manekshaw MC (3 April 1914 – 27 June 2008)

 

[khanmubashir]

the best overall feasible and most cost effective option for India r single engine jets
f16 or gripen latest versions

India already has a big fleet of heavy su30 which will be upgraded
India already wasted decades only to repeat who show again

 

[LeGenD]

Weren't both Boeing Chairman and CEO are German descent?

Dave Calhoun is the CEO and Larry Kellner is the chairman?

Sorry for my confusing tone.

I was alluding to Boeing F-15 program manager Boeing Pratyush Kumar.

This guy: https://www.businesstoday.in/sector...g-f-15-fighter-jet-aircraft/story/284299.html

He is making it possible for India to acquire state-of-the-art weapons from Boeing.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

BREAKING: Boeing Wants Washington To Clear F-15EX Pitch To India
Shiv Aroor. Feb 12, 2020 2 47 pm

Confirming a thread that has long been speculated upon in Indian defence circles, Boeing today confirmed to FlightGlobal’s Asia Managing Editor Greg Waldron that the company was seeking clearance from the U.S. Government to make a formal offer of the F-15EX fighter to India. This would be for an upcoming contest in which India is looking to build at least 110 fighters in country as part of a ‘Make in India’ effort. Boeing’s F/A-18 Block III Super Hornet, a long-standing contender for Indian fighter requirements, has already been pitched by Boeing as part of the 110 jet contest.

The FlightGlobal piece quotes a Boeing executive as saying, “While awaiting further definition on the Indian air force’s requirements, we have requested a license for the F-15 so that we’re ready to share the full spectrum of potential solutions across our fighter portfolio when appropriate. We continue to offer the F/A-18 Super Hornet to both the Indian navy and Indian air force, and our F-15 is experiencing a resurgence in interest in the US and around the world.”

The Indian government is expected to detail next steps in the ambitious fighter buy-and-build project later this year. If Boeing receives clearance to add the F-15EX to the mix, the list of prospective contenders would swell to 8: apart from the two Boeing jets, the Indian government will also be considering the Rafale, Lockheed Martin F-21, Eurofighter Typhoon, Gripen E, MiG-35 and Su-35.

The F-15EX is the latest iteration of the highly successful Eagle program, with a raft of improvements.

Boeing’s tryst with the Indian fighter acquisition program began in the mid-2000s when the F/A-18 became a surprise entrant into the then M-MRCA (medium multirole combat aircraft) contest — an endeavour that spiralled into oblivion and finally saw the Indian government contract for a fraction of the intended 126 jets and settle for 36 French Rafales. The F/A-18 has hovered around India’s twisting and turning acquisition program, and now sees itself as a frontrunner for both the Indian Air Force’s 110 jet build program as well as the Indian Navy’s hunt for 57 new generation carrier deck fighters.

The F-15EX pitch is, in many ways, unsurprising. The F-15 program is currently headed by Pratyush Kumar, who took over the reins of the program after a very successful stint as Boeing’s country head in India. Under Kumar, Boeing scored a list of significant contracts for military aircraft, including the AH-64E Apache, CH-47F Chinook, C-17 and P-8I.

https://www.livefistdefence.com/202...ashington-to-clear-f-15ex-pitch-to-india.html

if i was india i would acquire atleast 1 us origin mrca which would not only come with superior technology but also training that no other compatitor would offer.
Rafael was chosen to get pak of french market other wise super hornet would have been a better choice.

2030 decade is starting to look quite weak for pakistan in terms of technology acquired.
india has access to almost every high tech market in west while pak is struggling to acquire decent chinese export variants due to broke economy.

 

[LeGenD]

War is coming, they are doing same what they did after 65 war.

Unfortunately Indians completely fail to understand that both Pakistan and India are increasingly facing the prospects of mutually assured destruction (MAD) while foreign powers continue to exploit our differences to their advantage by dangling fancy carrots in front of chosen puppets. India wants to drag China into this shit as well.

Its like a masterstroke wherein the TRIO of Pakistan, India and China are risking destruction. Smartness of Zionists and Foolishness of Asians go hand in hand unfortunately. Asians are their own worst enemies unfortunately.

 

[KungFuLee]

Sorry for my confusing tone.

I was alluding to Boeing F-15 program manager Boeing Pratyush Kumar.

This guy: https://www.businesstoday.in/sector...g-f-15-fighter-jet-aircraft/story/284299.html

He is making it possible for India to acquire state-of-the-art weapons from Boeing.

Well, I think he is the President of Boeing India too.

But yes, it would seems like he want to push hard to sell

 

[maithil]

India can't afford 100of these. In fact can afford 100 Rafale as well. At most there will be a repeat order of 36-54 Rafales. This whole MRCA competition is just for show.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Unfortunately Indians completely fail to understand that both Pakistan and India are increasingly facing the prospects of mutually assured destruction (MAD) while foreign powers continue to exploit our differences to their advantage by dangling fancy carrots in front of chosen puppets. India wants to drag China into this shit as well.

Its like a masterstroke wherein the TRIO of Pakistan, India and China are risking destruction. Smartness of Zionists and Foolishness of Asians go hand in hand unfortunately. Asians are their own worst enemies unfortunately.

at the same time they dont want pak to be destroyed and just keep it just so that they could milk $$$$ from india.... just like how iran and north korea is used to milk $$$$$ from region.

India can't afford 100of these. In fact can afford 100 Rafale as well. At most there will be a repeat order of 36-54 Rafales. This whole MRCA competition is just for show.

india would rather starve its soldier then compromise on quality and quantity of its AF.
100-200 mrca is possible over the period of a decade.

 

[maithil]

India is not buying F15. India never asked for it. So, what is the debate about?


Su30 is better than F15. Su30 has much higher maneuverability which makes F15 weaker in comparison

Huge AESA Radar, GaN based EW suite, Next Generation Cockpit, Best Passive sensors. All of these tied to a mission computer which is reportedly faster than one on F-35. On tope of that, can carry 22 AAMs. Su-30 is miles behind this beast.

 

[LeGenD]

at the same time they dont want pak to be destroyed and just keep it just so that they could milk $$$$ from india.... just like how iran and north korea is used to milk $$$$$ from region.

I am not sure, bro.

Who benefits from an all out war between Pakistan and India, is an important question. Idiotic Modi Sarkar does not get the memo. This pathetic arms race will lead both countries to ruin. All for nothing.

Pakistan should take notice of these offers and convey to Washington DC that WE expect to be "compensated." WE must put our house in order (fix our dysfunctional economy by hook or crook), and learn to leverage our geopolitical merits to our advantage in our dealings.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

I am not sure, bro.

Who benefits from all out war between Pakistan and India, is an important question. Idiotic Modi Sarkar does not get the memo. This pathetic arms race will lead both countries to ruin. All for nothing.

Pakistan should take notice of these offers and convey to Washington DC that WE expect to be "compensated." WE must put our house in order (fix our dysfunctional economy by hook or crook), and learn to leverage our geopolitical clout to our advantage.

Money makes the world go round... my friend.

 

[LeGenD]

Money makes the world go round... my friend.

Unfortunately.

F-16 Block 70/72 should be sought at minimum, and entire fleet upgraded to this standard in the long-term.

 

[Windjammer]

Seems people have overlooked the psyche of the headlines.
Boeing Wants Washington To Clear F-15EX Pitch To India
So Boeing is seeking US permission....it doesn't mean that India is interested or asked for a feasibility study.
Obviously a company would be keen to market its product.