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Bhagavad Gita Must Be Declared National Scripture: External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj

You need to tone it down. If there were no chaddis your philosophizing bullshit would not have existed now. Chaddis understand Hinduism in its practical application a lot more than vacuous philosophers do.

Wow. I rightly attack the RSS and you return it by calling Hindu philosophy BS. You love Mohan Bhagwat more than Lord Krishna? :crazy:

Composed by ancient pakistanis to become the national scripture of india

Composed by ancient and enlightened Hindus sages who're your ancestors. Why have you terminally rejected their wisdom and embraced medieval monotheism? You must right the wrongs of a 1000 years and honor your ancestors by embracing Dharma.
 
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Wow. I rightly attack the RSS and you return it by calling Hindu philosophy BS. You love Mohan Bhagwat more than Lord Krishna? :crazy:

What did Lord Krishna say? Did he tell you to stop performing karma and just philosophize? Mohan Bhagwat is a simple humble human being doing exactly what Hindu Dharma prescribed him to do.
 
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What did Lord Krishna say? Did he tell you to stop performing karma and just philosophize? Mohan Bhagwat is a simple humble human being doing exactly what Hindu Dharma prescribed him to do.

It seems the women are in love with Mohan ji because of his mustache. These Indian women I tell you :rofl: On a serious note I'd recommend the RSS conduct an RSS JEE entrance exam so that intellectual and dynamic individuals become part of the organization. Too many loons are now an integral part of the RSS which pushes the intellectuals away from the ideology. I admire the social work that the RSS does and has done though :)
 
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It seems the women are in love with Mohan ji because of his mustache. These Indian women I tell you :rofl: On a serious note I'd recommend the RSS conduct an RSS JEE entrance exam so that intellectual and dynamic individuals become part of the organization. Too many loons are now an integral part of the RSS which pushes the intellectuals away from the ideology. I admire the social work that the RSS does and has done though :)

Surely I can appreciate a good man doing a good job without being in love with him, or is everything reduced to hormones in the new modern world?

Majority people joining RSS are graduates and nowadays double graduates. So they are not some loons as you easily dismiss them. If they were, they would not be such a successful organization. The so called intellectual community in India has been a shame to the word intellect and it is good those half brained sissies are kept away.

By the way, things that you recommend have been going on for a long time now. So much so that commies are citing examples of RSS to revive themselves.

Learn from RSS, Karat tells unions - The Hindu
 
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The so called intellectual community in India has been a shame to the word intellect and it is good those half brained sissies are kept away.

You're referring to the secular intellectuals. What about right wing intellectuals like Rajiv Malhotra, Arun Shourie, S. Gurumurthy, Swapan Das Gupta, Bibek Debroy etc? At least they never make embarrassing statements like 'Science is nothing compared to astrology' or 'The Mughals brought caste system to India' :)
 
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Dear sushamaji i can understand the occasion you were speaking needed such rhetorics but gita doesn't require your petty special status, the message it contains is universal and it will remain relevant as long as humanity exists.
 
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You're referring to the secular intellectuals. What about right wing intellectuals like Rajiv Malhotra, Arun Shourie, S. Gurumurthy, Swapan Das Gupta, Bibek Debroy etc? At least they never make embarrassing statements like 'Science is nothing compared to astrology' or 'The Mughals brought caste system to India' :)

All those intellectuals you mention are affiliated to RSS or its sister organizations one way or other and share a healthy mutual respect for each other. RSS has a different role to play and other organizations have a different role to play.

The Brains Behind Modi Sarkar | Tehelka.com

"The VIF’s alleged links with the RSS has come in handy for Modi’s critics. Sangh leaders regularly visit the VIF, while RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat and BJP leader LK Advani actively engage with it. Recently, Bhagwat was at the VIF to release former diplomat OP Gupta’s book Defining Hindutva. Since the VIF emerged out of the Vivekananda Kendra, critics believe it would be a mistake to consider the VIF separate from the RSS.

“VIF is an RSS project,” says a critic. “The first thing you notice when you enter the building is a photograph of Eknath Ranade. VIF is filled with right-wing officials. As they were marginalised intellectually, they created their own think-tank. It is a desperate attempt to get acknowledged in the intellectual world. If it is not so, then why does the RSS chief keep visiting the VIF?”

Now coming to your point. Astrology is science. The minister might have been less articulate or not good at communicating this and the media is known to distort everything the right wing leaders have to say to paint them evil.

Muslim invasion did exacerbate manifold the pre-existing caste system. Read Megasthenes to know that there were very very few people in India who were considered outcastes or lived in the margins of the society. This changed with the coming of war and deprivation in the Indian society and it is not wrong to state the the prevalent caste system is the fruit of this event.

Dear sushamaji i can understand the occasion you were speaking needed such rhetorics but gita doesn't require your petty special status, the message it contains is universal and it will remain relevant as long as humanity exists.

It is just like any other official recognition. If we do not celebrate Independence Day, it does not mean we are not independent. So Gita getting official recognition is just in the way of the world.
 
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SECULARS HAVING A MASSIVE HEART ATTACK!They might as well die looking at the news and the divining the future. ;)
Wait and watch happens in the future,history will be changed and a new nation will arise!
 
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SECULARS HAVING A MASSIVE HEART ATTACK!They might as well die looking at the news and the divining the future. ;)
Wait and watch happens in the future,history will be changed and a new nation will arise!

I wish they would hurry up though. When I read Amit Shah's interview we seem headed in the right direction, but even he had to say there are plenty of things that needs to be done yet.
 
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But hey what does national scripture mean??
I might sound dilettante but would it also be included in our school syllabus?? :undecided:
This part might be tricky and I will not be surprised if the ministers and the RSS block appear to contradict each other in this matter. While the core Hindutva quarter might have expect to visualize Gita as a holy book representing the general Indian national life, some others like the Haryana chief when calls it above constitution wants Gita by comparing it with constitution, to be seen as a code of law of governance. Quite different from the RSS version, the later might have aimed to see it in line with Arthashastra or Magna Carta There is off course these two versions of 'national scripture' available so far.

And hey Gita isn't such a bad book :)
I think what Krishna taught Arjun back then is still very relevant....like the destination is more important than the path ...or something to that effect ,which is just the opposite of what Mr.gandhi had to say :angel:
It is definitely not. On the contrary, principles of life and the path to salvation are regarded to be vital and central issues of philosophical discussions for thousands of years in this country and what can be more relevant other than Upanishadas and Gita in this regard? But the problem is India as an institutional democracy can't afford to overlook opinions from other non-Hindu communities and sects. Also, the voice of educated middle class who even if a firm believer of principles of Hindu scriptures in private life, might not be interested in India becoming an orthodox theocracy. It is a crisis of misplaced priorities and gimmicks unfortunately.
 
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BJP people seem to be running a relay race of stupid statements.

Did mrs Swaraj understands the meaning and implication of declaring Gita as national scripture?

Is she saying that Vedas, Upanishads, Brahma Sutras, Asthavakra samhita, Tattvaboha, Tipikta, Agam sutra, and Guru granth sahib are lesser scriptures?
 
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Validating one does not mean invalidating others. The lotus being the national flower does not mean it gets promoted to the exclusivity of other flowers. Nor are Indians less appreciative of other flowers. So while all scriptures are sacred, we do choose one that captures the essence of all symbolically.
 
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