Bars, Nightclubs, Lottery, Casinos, HorseRacing - Why can't we have those things?

[Longhorn]

You forgot to demand brothels too.

If you want brothels too you wont like the idea of strangers shagging your daughter for money.

Why don't you forward an argument if you have one instead of trying to insult the OP.
Is this your Islamic morality?

 

[dBSPL]

Being Tunisian , Iranian , Arabian , or being any muslim state member on the other side won't increase your chances in heaven. Each individual is responsible for his own path. That's just what I mean. You can't force people to convert ( or live ) to Islam. But if we can re-raise the moral and cultural elements of our civilization, if we can increase our importance in the world economy again and get our old role in the scientific circles, this high civilization will bring a respectable Islamic understanding.

What we're doing now is no different than formalism. Err... in fact, we do nothing but formalism.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Are we that desperate for tax money that we would introduce such practices just to tax the awam
Rather than doing that people should have the decency to give their taxes

The debate is on night clubs,gambling and prostitution not on ****.

 

[B.K.N]

Thats sad to hear. It sounds like Pakistan is better off keeping these things illegal rather than making money and destroying families.

Perhaps when the country is more developed. Defenitely don't want an India like enviornment,immoral and sleazy.

Sharab and charas is very common in Pakistan most of the people drink home made or desi

Are we that desperate for tax money that we would introduce such practices just to tax the awam
Rather than doing that people should have the decency to give their taxes

Only OP and few other PDF members want it no one in Pakistan talks about legalizing these things
Those who want to do such things are already doing and others don't care

 

[Lincoln]

People like you are the reason that Pakistan is being fucked it has nothing to do with the "majority illiterate". You look down on people by calling them retards but it is you are uneducated and a "retard". The majority of people in Pakistan are poor and cannot afford an education. It not on their own volition that they do not educate their young. I mean seriously guy, What the **** have you done for Pakistan and how dare you look down on people?

You need to read and learn a few things before you start calling people retards. Go read about Islam and Islamic jurisprudence. You should also read about Pakistan and its formation. Then go read a basic medical book so that you can learn something about alcoholism. Finally, castrate yourself so scum like you cannot pollute the earth.

No need to vent your life insecurities here, friend.

 

[Patriot01]

Well the UAE is very happy with you it seems...after all you seems to "Participate" in UAE "FUN" economy...
Congrats...

Majority of Pakistanis are

 

[HannibalBarca]

Why don't you forward an argument if you have one instead of trying to insult the OP.
Is this your Islamic morality?

His wording could have been more restrained... but the Arguments is indeed there...
OP kept out the Brothel part out of the equation... knowing himself that his logic is going to far...
When you play the Objective card you play by it's rules and go all in... otherwise it's being a Hypocrite...

Every "Fun" things that OP gave are bound to the same Brothel logic... It's harmful for society and therefore for each individual...

It's like the liberals who says "as long it doesn't harm anyone or any of those involved, then it's ok" but when you bring the Adult consenting Incest logic in it they directly back off and call for "Misunderstanding".

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Pakistan is not an islamic state. However, I still think the evils of alcohol or prostitution outweigh the benefits (taxation is the only one really) by far. Gambling, and horse racing, as long as controlled so that vulnerable people don't get addicted, is ok in my book. Plenty of tax available.

 

[M.Bison]

Every single ghairat brigadier here has watched p0rhography multiple times but they want to lecture everyone else.

The holier they act the creepier the internet browsing history. Guaranteed hypocrites.

So you equate pornography to prostitution? I mean that is ridiculous.. What guarantee do you have that someone who engages in pornography will then go and hire a prostitute? It is a ridiculous argument and you are being a reverse ghairat general. You are the hypocrite. Prostitution is done out in the open and is a harm to society. Someone who engages in pornography is not jerking off in the middle of the street..

 

[masterchief_mirza]

If we allow smoking which is very dangerous, I can't see how we can criticize other vices on moral grounds.

 

[M.Bison]

No need to vent your life insecurities here, friend.

Good answer. Now I know for sure you are a stupid person and have learned alot from your Indian colleagues.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Pakistan is not an islamic state. However, I still think the evils of alcohol or prostitution outweigh the benefits (taxation is the only one really) by far. Gambling, and horse racing, as long as controlled so that vulnerable people don't get addicted, is ok in my book. Plenty of tax available.

The West who are way more richer than any Muslim country on earth and their Rule of Law that is better than Any Muslim country on earth FAILED to do so...and we see the consequences of it... Where TODAY Western society are wasting BILLIONS just to get out of it... But you think Muslim societies will succeed in regulating Haram?

 

[B.K.N]

horse racing

What is wrong with horse race?
Gambling?

 

[HannibalBarca]

If we allow smoking which is very dangerous, I can't see how we can criticize other vices on moral grounds.

Yeah... Why criticizing prostitution/rapes/murder/incest then... you right mate...
Let's categorize every wrong the same.
If one is allowed then ALL shall too...

What is wrong with horse race?
Gambling?

yes.

 

[SQ8]

Pakistan had all these things before its decline began. At no point did these things lead to corruption, military defeats or earthquakes.

These things were openly available in Pakistan and those who went there weren’t questioned nor were those who did not go looked at different. Many of the attendees were tourists anyway since we weren’t considered an intolerant dangerous people.

Previously Pakistanis would pray at home and those who wished to indulge in these things do it openly. Now these things are done hidden and in higher numbers, while long beards and fake prayers are done publicly for show.

Those countries that spent their time trying to impose removal of evils rather than insisting it to be the personal battle it is; are left with nothing more than a facade of piety with nothing else to show for it.