Bars, Nightclubs, Lottery, Casinos, HorseRacing - Why can't we have those things?

[M.Bison]

Illiterates are in the majority as well, your point?

What does literacy have to do with drinking, gambling, and prostitution? It is the literates that are doing the harm when it comes to gambling, alcoholism, and prostitution. My point is quite simple, if you want the country to be called the Islamic Republic of Pakistan then it is best not commercialize these things.

 

[khansaheeb]

Many Pakistanis drink, dance and gamble often at underground parties. Why can't we have bars, nightclubs, lotteries, sportsbetting and casinos and tax the shit out of them for the national exchequer?

Why do we have this facade where everyone is wonderfully Muslim? In Defence, private parties are protected by the Police to keep unwelcome public out.

Why should pious and often hypocritical Muslims impose their pseudo-morality on others?

Pakistan used to have bars, ballrooms and was a fun place to be at one time.

In the west, lottery revenue is used to provide for students and elderly.

Turkey has all of these things. Why can't Pakistan have anything fun?

Go to India if you or anyone else like these fun things.

 

[Lincoln]

What does literacy have to do with drinking, gambling, and prostitution? It is the literates that are doing the harm when it comes to gambling, alcoholism, and prostitution. My point is quite simple, if you want the country to be called the Islamic Republic of Pakistan then it is best not commercialize these things.

My point was that majority isn't always good at making good decisions. If it did, this country wouldn't be getting fucked for the past few decades

Go to India if you or anyone else like these fun things.

Since you don't like these things, you should go to Saudi Arabia from Netherlands

 

[B.K.N]

Drinking, drugs and gambling elements are present in middle upper class and upper class societies.

Daily wage earners also drink
Most of the drug addicts in Pakistan are poor

 

[Lincoln]

Daily wage earners also drink
Most of the drug addicts in Pakistan are poor

Also no one is saying to legalize drugs for God's sake.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Also no one is saying to legalize drugs for God's sake.

What's your point???
Are you saying that these restrictions are preventing fun for public???

 

[khansaheeb]

My point was that majority isn't always good at making good decisions. If it did, this country wouldn't be getting fucked for the past few decades



Since you don't like these things, you should go to Saudi Arabia from Netherlands

Proud to be a true Pakistani and not a haramee. I don't encourage Indianism.

 

[Patriot01]

I can imagine how much it will help Pakistans economy if all this were to be done sadly people with terrible mindset would never let it happen

 

[Menace2Society]

Daily wage earners also drink
Most of the drug addicts in Pakistan are poor

Thats sad to hear. It sounds like Pakistan is better off keeping these things illegal rather than making money and destroying families.

Perhaps when the country is more developed. Defenitely don't want an India like enviornment,immoral and sleazy.

 

[313ghazi]

Agree with the writer we need to have them to promote proper tourism and btw a lot of Muslim countries have them including where i live. I dont find anything wrong with them but unfortunately a lot of people would due to their mindset and that is what needs to be changed first

Brother, Islam teaches us there is not baraka in haram. You may live in Muslim countries where there is haram openly available, but was it the oil that benefited them or the haram? You yourself probably work hard to earn halal, you do that because you know there is no baraka in haram, indeed it will be a weight against you.

Guys dont forget despite not having all this there are still 8.9 million drug addicts in the country. There are still brothels. There are underground nightclubs. Point is if someone is meant to do bad they will do it so people who are complaining please stop.

I accept that. As a society we should look to end this, not open it up for everyone. Like someone else said, those who want to participate in haram will do it even in Makkah.

The Fards, Vajib behaviors and our beloved Prophet's (sav) Sunnah , only a small part consists of our duties to Allah. Much of it is about good morality, good education, healthy living, hardworking and honest trade, a harmonious social order.

Unfortunately, while Muslims today are rejecting (Takfir ) each other, or thinks they have the authority to decide who is a good Muslim and who is a bad Muslim : our educational and cultural level is threatened, we do not trade honestly, we do not live healthy, we lose our moral values and smiling face. The role of women in social life is in the background in most Islamic countries. Sexual hunger and moral collapse are institutionalized within us step by step.

So what does it matter if you don't drink, don't play lotto? We will pay the price of our sins to Allah. We pray for Allah's sake. We do not drink to gain God's approval (except for health issues) . All this must remain between God and the individual.

Those who preach Islam can tell what is right and what is wrong. We can learn from Sunnah of our beloved Prophet(sav) and follow in his footsteps by researching relevant sources.

However, there is no compulsion in our religion. To choose to walk (or not) in that path is each individual's own conscientious problem.

Our problem is not a religious problem, dear friends. The problem we have is civilization.

First we need to stand up our civilization.

You make some very good points, especially the one about haqooq ul ibad. However the responsbility of state is different to that of the individual. There is no compulsion in religion - you don't have to be Muslim, but anyone who is, is obliged to follow certain rules. The Prophet Muhammad pbuh prohibited haram actions, in his state they were banned. Why? Because a prohibition helped the believers avoid the wrong and it was the responsbility of the state to facilitate the good and prohibit the bad. Things like alcohol, gambling, prostitution, drugs, have a social harm too.

Says the Pakistani living in the UK where all these things are legal and freely enjoyed at one's discretion.

By Allah as my witness I have prohibited from these haram activities all my life. I pray i can go to my grave and make the same statement. I didn't come to the UK to enjoy whisky and wine - I was born here because our family are refugees from Kashmir who settled in a poor remote part of Pakistan with no opportunities, even today - let alone 70 years ago. The people of AJK would be living like the people of interior Sindh had it not been for expat workers sending money home.

I live in a society where haram is openly available, i can tell you first hand the social harm it does.

 

[SkyWolf]

You forgot to demand brothels too.

If you want brothels too you wont like the idea of strangers shagging your daughter for money.

There are people that advance discussion with debate and logic and there are those like you, quick to judge and quick to insult.

I can guarantee that for all your ghairatmandi - on the internet - you have watched **** multiple times and thats just this week.

Here is what i am trying to advance. Pakistanis are going to dubai malaysia indonesia turkey for fun. Tourists are avoiding pakistan like the plague. This money is needed at home. This is happening everywhere , might as well tax it. Put it to good use like charities.

Also, please keep family out of discussion.

 

[M.Bison]

My point was that majority isn't always good at making good decisions. If it did, this country wouldn't be getting fucked for the past few decades

People like you are the reason that Pakistan is being fucked it has nothing to do with the "majority illiterate". You look down on people by calling them retards but it is you are uneducated and a "retard". The majority of people in Pakistan are poor and cannot afford an education. It not on their own volition that they do not educate their young. I mean seriously guy, What the **** have you done for Pakistan and how dare you look down on people?

You need to read and learn a few things before you start calling people retards. Go read about Islam and Islamic jurisprudence. You should also read about Pakistan and its formation. Then go read a basic medical book so that you can learn something about alcoholism. Finally, castrate yourself so scum like you cannot pollute the earth.

 

[HannibalBarca]

I can imagine how much it will help Pakistans economy if all this were to be done sadly people with terrible mindset would never let it happen

Well the UAE is very happy with you it seems...after all you seems to "Participate" in UAE "FUN" economy...
Congrats...

 

[bananarepublic]

But people living in a country can have a religion
You can say most of the Pakistanis are Muslims

Yes horse races are held in Lahore race club

Are we that desperate for tax money that we would introduce such practices just to tax the awam
Rather than doing that people should have the decency to give their taxes

 

[SkyWolf]

Every single ghairat brigadier here has watched p0rhography multiple times but they want to lecture everyone else.

The holier they act the creepier the internet browsing history. Guaranteed hypocrites.