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I moved around in this forum quite a few years back. Even forgot the log-in name I used back then!! :)
But its good to be back!
 
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still so many negetive votes against those f-7 bgi. but honestly it was a planned purchase not only for stop gap.we are going to purchase new advance fighters soon and those resting f- 7 will give a great close support to the army.in vietnam war the usa did the same they used advance fighters for the dog fight and old fighters for the close air support. its a proven tactics. so don't need to disappointed by those f-7 bgi

The MiG-21/F-7 is an interceptor that can fly at Mach 2.0 speeds. And you are supposing that it can fulfill a CAS role? Are you insane?

I know about those A-5's, and if anything; they may be replaced by Yak-130's.
 
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A submerged submarine is a pain to catch, especially in littoral waters like the Bay of Bengal. Once a submarine goes close to the bottom, it becomes extra difficult to find it. And as far as I know, BN doesn't have passive sonar arrays fitted with any of the ships, which is a must to detect submarines, even if its a 50-year old submarine. Most ships are fitted with basic hull-mounted sonars, which may not be able to find submarines at more than 8-10 miles even in the best of conditions. This makes a high-quality ship vulnerable to even the weakest submarine with torpedoes, as torpedoes usually have longer range than active sonars. Passive sonars with well-trained operators can find subs as much as 50-80 miles away. ASW aircraft and helicopters come with sonobouys, surface-search radar, IIR and MAD. Some great tools to find a "needle in a haystack". Any submarine and some ASW aircraft - thats the way to go to counter even the most rudimentary submarine threat!

And I thought this was the Navy thread!! :)
 
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Can anyone tell me the reason behind procuring Island-class OPVs? Is it because of 1. their size - 61m, 1,280t, or 2. is it because of their endurance - 11,000nm at 12kt ?

If it is because of their size, then what 'desired' benefit does the size bring to BN? - a. Better sea-keeping in less than ideal conditions? or b. Options to fit in weapons if the need arises. Think about the armed merchant cruisers of WWII that the RN used with great effect against German U-boats and bombers. Currently the Island-class is hardly armed. Their size might allow them to carry some extra weapons, like MANPADS, CIWS, ASW rockets, etc.

If it is because of their endurance, it brings the question - where is the requirement for a 10,000nm+ range? Are we looking to use these ships as armed escorts for civilian transport ships to and from Chittagong port during any crisis? And as a second option, protecting deep sea drilling platforms and future gas rigs? Their speed, max 16.5 kts, and long range make them suitable for convoy escort duties over long distances without refueling. These ships probably can stay at sea for more than a month. Compared to these, the new Padma-class 50m ships can stay at sea for 7 days only. The Padma-class is probably a coastal patrol craft. But the question is, what is the purpose of the Island-class in BN? We know their role in RN, but that was their need, and ours should be different.
 
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Gentlemen, I have found the following reporting in "The Defense Media Network" about the progress the BN is making, its induction of Frigates, Corvettes, LPCs, home built naval ships etc. Most of the information in this reporting may there be in piecemeal in this thread. Sorry, if some part of this reporting are replica of already posted news.

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BANGLADESH NAVY PROGRESS

Bangladesh Navy Ship Bangabandhu (F-25)

The Bangladesh navy ship Bangabandhu (F-25) steams off the coast of Bangladesh during Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) 2012. The South Korean Daewoo-built Bangabandhu is the most modern and capable warship in the BN. It is fitted with Otomat Mk 2 surface to surface missiles and a Chinese FM-90 surface to air missile system. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Sean Fure)

This acquisition of USCG Cutter Jarvis is emblematic of the progress made by the BN in recent years to improve its combat power, modernize its fleet, acquire larger platforms with longer endurance and crucially, become a three dimensional navy with naval aviation and submarines, as it strives to provide effective maritime security for Bangladesh.

It is doing so by modernizing the fleet with the upgrade of existing platforms as well as the induction of new platforms with long endurance.

Well supported by incumbent Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina, the ongoing naval acquisition package includes 11 ships and submarines as part of the Hasina administration’s commitment to building a well-equipped navy.

Besides the Samudra Joy, the most recent additions to the BN fleet are two large missile armed patrol craft, known as LPC, from China as well as a series of locally built, gun armed patrol craft – also of Chinese provenance.

The 648-ton LPC, with a length of 64.2 meters, a beam of 9 meters and a draft of 2.5 meters, was built at Wuchang Shipyard in Wuhan under the auspices of CSOC (China Shipbuilding & Offshore International Company).

2nd LPC at Wuchang

The second LPC prior to launching at Wuchang Shipyard. Bangladesh navy photo

The first, Durjoy (P 811), was launched on Aug. 26, 2012, while the second, Nirmul (P813), was launched on Sept. 27, 2012. Both ships arrived Bangladesh in February 2013.

The LPCs are armed with a single 76.2mm NG-16-1 automatic cannon, two twin 25mm cannon mounted amidships, four C-704 surface to surface missiles (SSM) mounted aft, and two forward-mounted six-barreled RDC depth charge rocket launchers.

Primary sensors include a TR-47C gunfire control radar with built-in electro-optical sensors, an SR-60 search radar, and an ESS-3 bow mounted sonar with an effective range of about 8000 meters. A JRCSS combat management system (CMS) with at least three multifunction consoles is also fitted.

The LPCs are powered by triple Pielstick diesels driving three screws for a top speed of 28 knots. Range is 2500 nautical miles (nm) and endurance with a crew of 60 is 15 days. According to CSOC officials speaking to Defense Media Network at LIMA 2013, these are cost-effective warships, able to perform both strike missions at ranges of about 40 kilometers as well as undertaking limited anti-submarine warfare (ASW) operations.

LPC BNS Durjoy at Port Klang Jan. 2013

BNS Durjoy at Port Klang, Malaysia during a three day port call Jan. 29-31, 2013 on its voyage to Chittagong naval base from Shanghai. TLDM photo

Wuchang is also building two 90-meter, 1,330-ton corvettes based on the Type 056 to bespoke Bangladeshi specifications, including a helicopter hangar. Steel cutting for these ships took place on Jan. 8, 2013. CSOC expects to complete construction of these corvettes by 2104 or early 2015.

The BN has also commenced induction of five 50-meter long, 255-ton Padma-class inshore patrol craft from the Navy-owned Khulna Shipyard, using material packages supplied by Hudong shipyard in China. Billed as the largest homebuilt warship to date, the first of class, BNS Padma (P 312), was commissioned on Jan. 24, 2013.

The second was delivered in early May, and all are to be delivered by December 2013. Impressively, the program is running on schedule. The long-term plan is to build 25 of these craft.

Powered by four Deutz diesels, the Padma class are capable of doing 23.7 knots. They have a range of 1,500 nm and an endurance of 7 days. Armament comprises two twin 37mm gun mounts as well as two 20mm cannon. These ships can also lay mines if required. They will be used primarily for riverine patrols and exclusive economic zone (EEZ) protection.

Padma P312

BNS Padma, the largest locally built warship to date in Bangladesh. Five of these 50-meter, 250-ton gun-armed patrol craft are being constructed at Khulna naval shipyard with Chinese supplied material packages.

Upon completion of this program, Khulna SY is expected to undertake construction of at least two LPC, similar to the two recently acquired from China. In due course, Khulna SY reportedly will also build corvettes. Two are planned initially.

In addition to the new-build ships, the BN is expecting to take delivery of two ex-PLA Navy Type 052H2 Jianghu 3 class frigates fitted with C-802 SSM around November 2013.

These acquisitions mean that the two elderly ex-Royal Navy frigates of 1950s vintage, BNS Umar Farooq (ex-HMS Llandaff) and BNS Abu Bakr (ex-HMS Lynx) can finally be withdrawn from service.

So, by 2014, the BN will very likely possess four additional frigates to complement a modernized Jianghu 1 frigate, BNS Osman, and a modern Daewoo-built DW 2000H frigate, BNS Bangabandhu, that’s been fitted with a Chinese-built FN-90 surface to air missile system.

Aside from the combatants, at least one auxiliary tanker is under construction at Ananda Shipyard and Slipways Ltd (ASSL) for delivery by July 2013. The 79.85-meter tanker has been designed to replenish two ships simultaneously using RAS gear sourced from the United Kingdom.
 
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our old nation pakistan is training the burmese and trying to sell old pakistani subs to them .gaddar forever
Some Myanmar Navy personnel are getting trained in submarine warfare. Rumour has it that they are trying to get submarines. If that is true, then we might require some genuine ASW aircraft and get trained with them quickly. And also to get a submarine quickly to get trained in ASW.
 
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interseptors role and yak 130s role is different.f-7 bg is interceptor and yak - 130 is an advance trainer jet.current bgi f7 is the best model ever builted in mig 21 siries.its 3.5 gen fighter with advance avionics and radar ,firecontroll system. for close air support it ant bad bro .ac-5 and l-39 albatros become too old as a trainer.bd is getting new 4th gen fighters soon.and these rest of the 7 -f bgi will be used as a suport fleet.
The MiG-21/F-7 is an interceptor that can fly at Mach 2.0 speeds. And you are supposing that it can fulfill a CAS role? Are you insane?

I know about those A-5's, and if anything; they may be replaced by Yak-130's.
 
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Myanmar Navy starts submarine training in Pakistan
20 June 2013

A small contingent of Myanmar Navy (MN) personnel has begun submarine warfare training in Pakistan, a move that suggests Myanmar is finally taking concrete steps towards developing a subsurface capability.

Around 20 officers and ratings arrived in Karachi in late April/early May to begin basic familiarisation training with the Pakistan Navy (PN), according to diplomatic sources. It is likely the contingent is based at the PN's Submarine Training Centre at PNS Bahadur, an onshore facility in Karachi that offers simulator training in diving, propulsion, and sonar tape listening and analysis.

The PN's submarine service has relied on French boats almost since its inception in the 1960s, and today operates two obsolescent Hashmat-class Agosta-70 boats and three modern Khalid-class Agosta-90Bs.

Myanmar Navy starts submarine training in Pakistan - IHS Jane's 360

btw, I left a question at the top...... anyone has any idea about it?

Can anyone tell me the reason behind procuring Island-class OPVs? Is it because of 1. their size - 61m, 1,280t, or 2. is it because of their endurance - 11,000nm at 12kt ?

If it is because of their size, then what 'desired' benefit does the size bring to BN? - a. Better sea-keeping in less than ideal conditions? or b. Options to fit in weapons if the need arises. Think about the armed merchant cruisers of WWII that the RN used with great effect against German U-boats and bombers. Currently the Island-class is hardly armed. Their size might allow them to carry some extra weapons, like MANPADS, CIWS, ASW rockets, etc.

If it is because of their endurance, it brings the question - where is the requirement for a 10,000nm+ range? Are we looking to use these ships as armed escorts for civilian transport ships to and from Chittagong port during any crisis? And as a second option, protecting deep sea drilling platforms and future gas rigs? Their speed, max 16.5 kts, and long range make them suitable for convoy escort duties over long distances without refueling. These ships probably can stay at sea for more than a month. Compared to these, the new Padma-class 50m ships can stay at sea for 7 days only. The Padma-class is probably a coastal patrol craft. But the question is, what is the purpose of the Island-class in BN? We know their role in RN, but that was their need, and ours should be different.
 
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Myanmar Navy starts submarine training in Pakistan
20 June 2013

A small contingent of Myanmar Navy (MN) personnel has begun submarine warfare training in Pakistan, a move that suggests Myanmar is finally taking concrete steps towards developing a subsurface capability.

Around 20 officers and ratings arrived in Karachi in late April/early May to begin basic familiarisation training with the Pakistan Navy (PN), according to diplomatic sources. It is likely the contingent is based at the PN's Submarine Training Centre at PNS Bahadur, an onshore facility in Karachi that offers simulator training in diving, propulsion, and sonar tape listening and analysis.

The PN's submarine service has relied on French boats almost since its inception in the 1960s, and today operates two obsolescent Hashmat-class Agosta-70 boats and three modern Khalid-class Agosta-90Bs.

Myanmar Navy starts submarine training in Pakistan - IHS Jane's 360

btw, I left a question at the top...... anyone has any idea about it?

Good gesture by Pakistan towards us, when are they transferring nuclear tech to them?
 
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Dornier 228 NG

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BNS Osman in UNIFIL mission..... take a close look - the ship is carrying only 4 SSMs

also remember that the ship did not return to Bangladesh since it left in April 2010..... there had been several crew changes, but the ship remained in the Mediterranean.... the ship went there with BNS Madhumati, which is not shown in the picture....

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Myanmar Navy starts submarine training in Pakistan
20 June 2013

A small contingent of Myanmar Navy (MN) personnel has begun submarine warfare training in Pakistan, a move that suggests Myanmar is finally taking concrete steps towards developing a subsurface capability.

Around 20 officers and ratings arrived in Karachi in late April/early May to begin basic familiarisation training with the Pakistan Navy (PN), according to diplomatic sources. It is likely the contingent is based at the PN's Submarine Training Centre at PNS Bahadur, an onshore facility in Karachi that offers simulator training in diving, propulsion, and sonar tape listening and analysis.

The PN's submarine service has relied on French boats almost since its inception in the 1960s, and today operates two obsolescent Hashmat-class Agosta-70 boats and three modern Khalid-class Agosta-90Bs.

Myanmar Navy starts submarine training in Pakistan - IHS Jane's 360

btw, I left a question at the top...... anyone has any idea about it?

As far as Island classes goes, im sure it was probably at an incredibly cheap price. Far too much of a good ship to miss out on(Although RN didn't actually like it)I also know the nigerians were also looking at it at the time but it was given to us.As far as rearmanments goes, im sure most of the budget priority is going towards armanements of bigger ships for now,im sure the Island classes would get a refit a bit later.

As far as the Myanmaese getting subs go, it will be a while since they need to build proper infrastucture first and i sincerly doubt they will be getting any in the next 5-8 years.
 
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