Bangladesh is secular, not moderate Muslim country: FM

[TopCat]

These are just few words for you. You just going to reject them as they are nonsense. There is a limit of "baygarati" man. Drew your line at least when comes to Allah's supremacy. This is minimal requirement of being a Muslim. How could you disrespect Allah's toheed in this manner being a Muslim. You are so blinded by your Bengali nationalistic ideal that you questioned supremacy of Almighty Allah. Astaghfirullahal'azim.

There isn't Much different between "people republic" and "Islamic republic". Bangladesh is majority Muslim nation so therefore its people represent Islamic republic and it's constitution further enforced it.

I already explained myself and my view regarding State and Religion and their relationship in the following post. I believe that should be enough to explain myself.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/24909-bangladesh-secular-not-moderate-muslim-country-fm.html#post350897

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The only loosers I can see here are people like you and gang since AL won a landslide victory at the elections.

Regards

Can we refrain from the personal attacks please? That was completely uncalled for, and you have been participating on this forum long enough to know that.

 

[Al-zakir]

Sorry al-zakir but iajdani is actually correct.........one has to be a bangladeshi first then belong to any religion.....only if you could understand.........what if some muslim wants something terrible for bd,will you support him?? Thats when your nationalistic mentality comes into play..........and PLEASE STOP RANTING AT PEOPLE WHEN THEY POINT OUT THE TRUTH,I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTATION,BUT KEEP THAT UPTO YOURSELF IN YOUR DIRTY MIND........ If you dont want an healthy debate no body will mind you getting lost.......

Well look who is talking. There is a Urdu saying "bin bulaya mehaman". Do you know what are you talking about and what nonsense are you talking about anyway? We are here discussing about whether Bangladesh constitution is secular or not. I have proven with documents that nether Bangladesh current constitution nor it's people are secular. Why don't you and Iajdani prove it to me with document otherwise.

You aren't talking to a kid jako. I know who I am and what are my believes. Have your worthless advise to some one your level..

 

[afriend]

Thanks for your concern about me. I am not alergic to Islam rather concerned about the future of Islam.
You very much know how I view state and religion and their independence. Yes we can make our nation as Muslim as we are majority here. What about those nations where muslims are minority?? If we ourselves, not becoming secular, how we could ask USA govt to be secular where you live. So by becoming secular in a muslim majority country does not harm yourself as a muslim but gives a arsenal to the minority muslim who lives in a majority of other religion. Also you are trying to promote a very harsh Islam where there is no scope for others (you may disagree, but your language does portray that) makes every muslim uncomfortable and hinders the scope for Islam to spread even beyond religious boundary. Islam start as a minority and eventually becomes majority in every nationhood, but it did through benign way, not in a jinguitic way.

Regarding Ziaur Rahman, he had his good and he had his bad. He did nothing to promote Islam but did politics with Islam, sorry to say that.

You are a very wise man Mr.iajdani. I agree with every word you said. I dont know why people hate this word secularism which gives equal rights to the majority and the minority without any bias..!!!

 

[Jako]

Well look who is talking. There is a Urdu saying "bin bulaya mehaman". Do you know what are you talking about and what nonsense are you talking about anyway? We are here discussing about whether Bangladesh constitution is secular or not. I have proven with documents that nether Bangladesh current constitution nor it's people are secular. Why don't you and Iajdani prove it to me with document otherwise.

You aren't talking to a kid jako. I know who I am and what are my believes. Have your worthless advise to some one your level..

my dear al-zakir,abiding words of DARKSTAR i am not going into any personal comments......... But i want to ask you a simple question-suppose A MUSLIM(NOT BANGLADESHI) TRIES TO KILL A HINDU BANGLADESHI,WHOM WOULD YOU SUPPORT? would you support your islamic brotherhood or your fellow country men?

 

[idune]

my dear al-zakir,abiding words of DARKSTAR i am not going into any personal comments......... But i want to ask you a simple question-suppose A MUSLIM(NOT BANGLADESHI) TRIES TO KILL A HINDU BANGLADESHI,WHOM WOULD YOU SUPPORT? would you support your islamic brotherhood or your fellow country men?

Other than regular indian propaganda, speculation and provocation, so far you have not provided anything.

Fact that you see Bangladesh as “Muslim Bangladesh” and “Hindu Bangladesh” shows how deeply communal your and most indian view on the Bangladesh. And that is more reflective of your experience in India than reality in Bangladesh. In Bangladesh everyone is Bangladeshi, regardless of their religion. That’s how Bangladeshis lived for last 38 years in a Muslim country.

You can not say the same for India where Muslims, Christians and even lower Hindu caste are victim of everyday repression and chronic genocide; all under disguise of “secular India”.

To Bangladeshis communalism is mostly an indian phenomenon. You need to correct that in India before lecture someone purely based on your pent up Hindu supremacy agenda.

 

[paritosh]

Other than regular indian propaganda, speculation and provocation, so far you have not provided anything.

Fact that you see Bangladesh as “Muslim Bangladesh” and “Hindu Bangladesh” shows how deeply communal your and most indian view on the Bangladesh. And that is more reflective of your experience in India than reality in Bangladesh. In Bangladesh everyone is Bangladeshi, regardless of their religion. That’s how Bangladeshis lived for last 38 years in a Muslim country.

You can not say the same for India where Muslims, Christians and even lower Hindu caste are victim of everyday repression and chronic genocide; all under disguise of “secular India”.

To Bangladeshis communalism is mostly an indian phenomenon. You need to correct that in India before lecture someone purely based on your pent up Hindu supremacy agenda.

^^^ you , feel their pain...
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5)Will Bangladeshi Hindus be ignored Again? | Bangladeshi Hindu - Portal to Hindu World!
6)Human Rights Features on Bangladeshi Hindu minorities
7)http://economictimes.indiatimes.com..._loose_property_study/articleshow/2075932.cms
8)Bangladeshi Hindus - Coveted Enemies Under the Vested Property Act - Part II | Asian Tribune
9)Welcome to Bangladeshi Hindu Community in Australia

 

[idune]

Your post again shows call for your brand of secularism come from propaganda campaign that Hindus are repressed. Most of these propaganda launched after Awami league election defeat in 2001.

pain based on indo-awami propaganda? I think people in Bangladesh has better things to worry about.

 

[Al-zakir]

But i want to ask you a simple question-suppose A MUSLIM(NOT BANGLADESHI) TRIES TO KILL A HINDU BANGLADESHI,WHOM WOULD YOU SUPPORT? would you support your islamic brotherhood or your fellow country men?

It’s an off topic question. Hopefully Mod would consider this post. I will appreciate if you PM me with such concern.

It's not about countryman or international rather Justice (Insaf) should be same for everyone. You are literally trying to demonize me and concept of Islamic brotherhood with your ill twisted mindset without thinking fundamental of Islamic brotherhood.

Islam is an “Insaf” based religion and against all injustices(Zulm) regardless religious identity. You don’t understand the concept of “Islamic Ummah”, it's importance and relativity so it’s better for you not to get involved nevertheless I will answer your question with this example.

1. Suppose an armed Muslim try to kill an innocent Hindu with ill motive than it will be my soul responsibility to save the Hindu because in this specific case Muslim happen to be a ‘Zalim’ and Hindu happen to be ‘Mazlum’ regardless the national boundary and vice-versa. It’s simple

Thanks, now lets get back to topic…

 

[Jako]

Other than regular indian propaganda, speculation and provocation, so far you have not provided anything.

Fact that you see Bangladesh as “Muslim Bangladesh” and “Hindu Bangladesh” shows how deeply communal your and most indian view on the Bangladesh. And that is more reflective of your experience in India than reality in Bangladesh. In Bangladesh everyone is Bangladeshi, regardless of their religion. That’s how Bangladeshis lived for last 38 years in a Muslim country.

You can not say the same for India where Muslims, Christians and even lower Hindu caste are victim of everyday repression and chronic genocide; all under disguise of “secular India”.

To Bangladeshis communalism is mostly an indian phenomenon. You need to correct that in India before lecture someone purely based on your pent up Hindu supremacy agenda.

i disagree,though the post was offtopic and i am sorry for that.........i wanted to see how you see of a unsecular bangladesh,.......leave all indians apart ,i am a communist.......and i would never support communalism.......btw subho nabo barsha 1416.....

 

[toxic_pus]

Other than regular indian propaganda, speculation and provocation, so far you have not provided anything.

Fact that you see Bangladesh as “Muslim Bangladesh” and “Hindu Bangladesh” shows how deeply communal your and most indian view on the Bangladesh. And that is more reflective of your experience in India than reality in Bangladesh. In Bangladesh everyone is Bangladeshi, regardless of their religion. That’s how Bangladeshis lived for last 38 years in a Muslim country.

You can not say the same for India where Muslims, Christians and even lower Hindu caste are victim of everyday repression and chronic genocide; all under disguise of “secular India”.

To Bangladeshis communalism is mostly an indian phenomenon. You need to correct that in India before lecture someone purely based on your pent up Hindu supremacy agenda.

It’s an off topic question. Hopefully Mod would consider this post. I will appreciate if you PM me with such concern.

It's not about countryman or international rather Justice (Insaf) should be same for everyone. You are literally trying to demonize me and concept of Islamic brotherhood with your ill twisted mindset without thinking fundamental of Islamic brotherhood.

Islam is an “Insaf” based religion and against all injustices(Zulm) regardless religious identity. You don’t understand the concept of “Islamic Ummah”, it's importance and relativity so it’s better for you not to get involved nevertheless I will answer your question with this example.

1. Suppose an armed Muslim try to kill an innocent Hindu with ill motive than it will be my soul responsibility to save the Hindu because in this specific case Muslim happen to be a ‘Zalim’ and Hindu happen to be ‘Mazlum’ regardless the national boundary and vice-versa. It’s simple

Thanks, now lets get back to topic…

Nice evasion. A simple question, yet so hard to answer (Mr Al-zakir however comes close to answering that question). Here, let me show you how to answer that question (which I have modified just a little bit).

A HINDU(NOT INDIAN) TRIES TO KILL A MUSLIM INDIAN,WHOM WOULD YOU SUPPORT?

Answer: MUSLIM INDIAN, in fact any INDIAN irrespective of his/her religion.

Your turn.

And yes, shaobaikey amar NOBOBORSHOr subheccha.

 

[TopCat]

Noboborhser Suveccha to all WB/Indian people and Late Suveccha to others. I was too busy partying yesterday...
By the way we are one day ahead of Calcutta...

 

[paritosh]

tomara bhalo theko thakureccha bhalo theko...
gawd!! bengali just melts in your mouth!

 

[TopCat]

tomara bhalo theko thakureccha bhalo theko...
gawd!! bengali just melts in your mouth!

Which part of India you from??? Did you have the new year too???
Bengali is a easy language.. Keep trying...

 

[gromell]

wow now that's what i call self-destruction
they are trying to please the world instead of their own people

What does Pakistan do? it's aim is to please USA rather than its own people.