Bangladesh begins construction of two large warships

[Joe Shearer]

Yes cause it is defence.pk(Pakistan)
Morons.....

And SOOOOOO?

 

[Nabil365]

And SOOOOOO?

Indian trolls at their best...

 

[Joe Shearer]

Indian trolls at their best...

You got it.

 

[Nabil365]

Anyway we don't have a huge defense budget like India.So we Bangladeshis appreciate whatever we have....no point comparing us with India

 

[Shotgunner51]

Anyway we don't have a huge defense budget like India.So we Bangladeshis appreciate whatever we have....no point comparing us with India

BD is doing fine, just maintain a defense budget that commensurate with defense needs and economy.

 

[Blue Marlin]

BNS Durjoy Class catagory
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is that what your building!? I'm sure the title says "2 large warship. it's a missile boat

 

[damiendehorn]

is that what your building!? I'm sure the title says "2 large warship. it's a missile boat

The statement was from the PM of Bangladesh Hasina, who wouldn't know the difference between a rowing boat and a frigate or destroyer.

And the answer to your question is yes it is the same class of 648 tonne large patrol boat. We bought 2 direct from China, and a further 2 are under construction at KSY, once these are launched KSY is expected to build a further 2-4 updated large patrol boats (we need 6-8). Then KSY will start the construction of a further 2 (Chinese type 056) C13b corvettes.

 

[black-hawk_101]

Though it doesn't sound cool. But BN should try to negotiate for:
2-4 U-214
or 2-4 Socrpions

 

[damiendehorn]

Though it doesn't sound cool. But BN should try to negotiate for:
2-4 U-214
or 2-4 Socrpions

Expensive, considering we use less then 1.3% of our GDP on defence. 4 u214 or scorpenes would cost more then $2.2bn.

 

[Blue Marlin]

The statement was from the PM of Bangladesh Hasina, who wouldn't know the difference between a rowing boat and a frigate or destroyer.

And the answer to your question is yes it is the same class of 648 tonne large patrol boat. We bought 2 direct from China, and a further 2 are under construction at KSY, once these are launched KSY is expected to build a further 2-4 updated large patrol boats (we need 6-8). Then KSY will start the construction of a further 2 (Chinese type 056) C13b corvettes.

i find the thread title misleading. they type 56 corvette displaces >1500 tone, thats not big, its tiny. I'm not to interested in the numbers being built here. but what i am interested in is the thread title thats all, it's misleading.

 

[damiendehorn]

i find the thread title misleading. they type 56 corvette displaces >1500 tone, thats not big, its tiny. I'm not to interested in the numbers being built here. but what i am interested in is the thread title thats all, it's misleading.

Like I said take that up with Prime Minister Hasina, see if you can educate her on what a large warship is....good luck, on that.

 

[Bilal9]

Expensive, considering we use less then 1.3% of our GDP on defence. 4 u214 or scorpenes would cost more then $2.2bn.

Instead of spending Billions on larger subs such as KILO 636, U-214 (or Korean copies) or SCORPENEs (which are far noisier and more complicated) - couldn't we take a page from our Pakistani brothers and build scores of midget subs?

Because of smaller size, these things are stealthier, harder to hit and most importantly - harder to detect. Perfect recipe for our littoral-shallow-sea brown-water naval unconventional warfare (SWADS) scenario.....

What are the pluses and minuses - if any?

This was discussed by @kalu_miah some two years ago alongwith larger sub choices. In the event (as well) we were forced to forego our choice of Song class for the obsolete Ming class.

Future Submarine fleet for Bangladesh

 

[TopCat]

Instead of spending Billions on larger subs such as KILO 636, U-214 (or Korean copies) or SCORPENEs (which are far noisier and more complicated) - couldn't we take a page from our Pakistani brothers and build scores of midget subs?

Because of smaller size, these things are stealthier, harder to hit and most importantly - harder to detect. Perfect recipe for our littoral-shallow-sea brown-water naval unconventional warfare (SWADS) scenario.....

What are the pluses and minuses - if any?

This was discussed by @kalu_miah some two years ago alongwith larger sub choices. In the event (as well) we were forced to forego our choice of Song class for the obsolete Ming class.

Future Submarine fleet for Bangladesh

Submarine suppose to be offensive weapons. Midget sub sounds fantastic but has any use whatsoever in real war.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Submarine suppose to be offensive weapons. Midget sub sounds fantastic but has any use whatsoever in real war.

I think it's a terrible idea.

The ideal battle strategy for Bangladesh depends on who her enemy is.

If it is a foreign power, with a long way to go to get to her assets, it is one thing. If it is a proximate power (and we all know who a proximate power* could be), it is another thing.

For a distant enemy, Bangladesh' stand, assuming we are talking of any of the states from Thailand south, or of Sri Lanka (Bangladesh going to war with Sri Lanka? Oh, go to sleep, Victoria, this is just war-gaming!) is to cause maximum damage while suffering minimum loss, and secondly, to guard her naval and industrial assets from enemy action.

On the one hand, we are looking at attack submarines, including attack submarines with the capability of launching cruise missiles. On the other hand, we are looking at a layered defence, which will ensure that an attacking enemy force faces a four times more difficult regime at every new defence line.

Against a proximate power* (you know who we're talking about), the plan is sheer survival. No specific armament or organisation can equip B'desh well enough to resist all-out attack from a proximate power, and there is no point in building up preposterous numbers of shiny new stuff. I would suggest a people's war, with the distinct republic

The fighter plan.....

*Oh, I nearly forgot to mention: obviously when I said proximate power, I was referring to Myanmar.

What were you thinking?

 

[Bilal9]

Submarine suppose to be offensive weapons. Midget sub sounds fantastic but has any use whatsoever in real war.

They are offensive weapons. The reason midget sub is used is because it can operate close to shore - like in 5m deep water. It is generally used in unconventional warfare for surgical strikes like those by say - SWADS.

Very useful is guerrilla warfare of attrition to destroy enemy installations and assets. These things carry a very small number of underwater launched missiles/torpedoes - typically two to four. Some of these torpedoes can be guided by humans and they can get off at the last stage (close range).

I think it's a terrible idea.

The ideal battle strategy for Bangladesh depends on who her enemy is.

If it is a foreign power, with a long way to go to get to her assets, it is one thing. If it is a proximate power (and we all know who a proximate power* could be), it is another thing.

For a distant enemy, Bangladesh' stand, assuming we are talking of any of the states from Thailand south, or of Sri Lanka (Bangladesh going to war with Sri Lanka? Oh, go to sleep, Victoria, this is just war-gaming!) is to cause maximum damage while suffering minimum loss, and secondly, to guard her naval and industrial assets from enemy action.

On the one hand, we are looking at attack submarines, including attack submarines with the capability of launching cruise missiles. On the other hand, we are looking at a layered defence, which will ensure that an attacking enemy force faces a four times more difficult regime at every new defence line.

Against a proximate power* (you know who we're talking about), the plan is sheer survival. No specific armament or organisation can equip B'desh well enough to resist all-out attack from a proximate power, and there is no point in building up preposterous numbers of shiny new stuff. I would suggest a people's war, with the distinct republic

The fighter plan.....

*Oh, I nearly forgot to mention: obviously when I said proximate power, I was referring to Myanmar.

What were you thinking?

Let's talk about the scenario of a sea-blockade or conversely - shore invasion. Those could be two scenarios where midget subs could be low cost effective deterrents/countermeasures.

@Penguin bhai, @damiendehorn bhai.