B-21 Bomber unveiling tonight

[jhungary]

B-21 is in "development phase."

Nobody privy to development of B-21 has complained that it faces major challenges going against modern integrated air defense systems produced by nations like Russia and China. This typical narrative is floated around as a "cover-up."

B-2A is good enough to penetrate, degrade and destroy defenses of (any) country in its current modernized form [an operation will involve use of multiple units], let alone B-21 which is a major leap from it.

These aircraft represent the pinnacle of evolution in stealthy sciences and applications - design and features are informed by extensive testing in anechoic chamber(s) and data gathered from operations around the world. They know what they are doing.

It's way more than that.

B-21 is said to be creating something new to fight a war - MODULAR WARFARE.

Look at it like Legos (We all love Lego) Modular warfare is to put in a mission package on a single platform that was used instead for you to build a completely new platform to do it. It was pioneered by the LCS (Litterol Combat Ship) Program. But is now accented by the B-21.

B-21 in its later design is going to be a 1-man army, it is going to be a manned/unmanned platform, you can use a B-21 to perform a multitude of combat mission with just changing of their mission configuration. It can be used as a manned platform and connect itself with the drone and unmanned version of NGAD Fighter to make the commander of the B-21 access to their own escort and thus each B-21 can fight their own war. Or it can be a part of someone else plan when a manned fighter (EA-18G, NGAD or F-35) can command unammed B-21 to use it for his/her own mission.

Imagine if you are a B-21 bomber commander, you want to bomb a near peer enemy, in the old days, you would have to depend on other pilot to perform SEAD to suppress enemy Air Defence, and yet another group of pilot to perform CAP to get enemy fighter off you, then you plot your course to sneak into enemy airspace and drop your payload, you don't need to do any of that in a B-21, you can loiter outside unseen, you can command drone, NGAD fighter to do those bidding for you, and who know more on what you wanted up there other than you?? Nobody.

This WILL REVOLUTIONISE how war is being fought, we may not have skynet, robot and terminator to fight war for us as a unit, but this is getting pretty close as far as I concern.

 

[Baburfromsarmarkand]

But are bombers still relevant? They seem to be a relic of the cold war. I dont see how a bomber is more useful than a cruise missile?

 

[Foinikas]

But are bombers still relevant? They seem to be a relic of the cold war. I dont see how a bomber is more useful than a cruise missile?

More precision.

 

[jhungary]

But are bombers still relevant? They seem to be a relic of the cold war. I dont see how a bomber is more useful than a cruise missile?

Missile is a point to point attack, which mean 1 missile, 1 target, that is if you can hit it with just a single missile, and also it would be hamper by the range, cruise missile have a relatively short range (around 1000 km) compare to a Bomber which usually have more than 10,000 km+.

A bomber like B-2 or B-1 can carry around 80 500lb bomb or 20 2000lb bomb, if I can sneak all 20 (1 crashed) B-2 in a country as big as China or Canada, those 20 planes alone can take out the entire country command and control structure before they know what hit them, which you would otherwise have to launch over 1000 missile for. And that's just 20 B-2, we also have 60 B-1 and around 60 B-52 that can do similar job but in a more low-risk environment.

You cannot replace bomber with missile in a conventional war sense, you just have too many target to hit.

 

[LeGenD]

But are bombers still relevant? They seem to be a relic of the cold war. I dont see how a bomber is more useful than a cruise missile?

Bombers make it possible to attack, degrade, and destroy increasingly sophisticated defenses and infrastructure of a region in limited sorties. To bomb a country back to the stone age if necessary.

This comparison shows that just two B-2A are sufficient to produce "battlefield effects" that would take multiple aircraft to replicate otherwise. And there is no need to use Tankers for B-2A.

- Costs are reduced.
- Complexity is reduced.
- Probability of suffering losses is reduced.

 

[Rusty2]

B-21 bombers don't discriminate. You can ask the Serbs. They would disagree with that comment about being Brown and getting bombed.


The wings and the outer fuselage are reduced compared to the B-2. IMO I believe they kept the same size bomb bays while shrinking the rest. Notice how fat it looks vertically?

I have no doubt that no babies are safe.
Just that the numbers support what I have said.
But hey, it's okay to murder brown babies, so long as you kill a few white ones while your at it.

 

[SQ8]

The likelihood China can develop a bomber as capable as B-21 anytime soon is next to none. The US has 50 years of experience working on stealth aircraft and deploying them in combat.

The US is decades ahead in aerospace capability.

Unfortunately, what is not understood is that knowledge and research isn’t immediately thrown into the public eyes within the US defense industry (DARPA) and then the massive black programs budget that never sees the light of day until 40 years later.

There is stuff out of groom lake and other facilities that is decades ahead -

 

[Goritoes]

B-21, You don't detect it but you can see it, and by the time you see it its already to late
Front window's looks like ghost eyes.

 

[VCheng]

Unfortunately, what is not understood is that knowledge and research isn’t immediately thrown into the public eyes within the US defense industry (DARPA) and then the massive black programs budget that never sees the light of day until 40 years later.

There is stuff out of groom lake and other facilities that is decades ahead -

But why remind people of that? Instead, tell people that Murrikans are dumb lazy bastards. Let us reinforce that as much as possible.

B-21? Piece of crap!

 

[Goritoes]

B-21? Piece of crap!

If B-21 is piece of crap, than I am Nancy Pelosi.

 

[Oldman1]

I have no doubt that no babies are safe.
Just that the numbers support what I have said.
But hey, it's okay to murder brown babies, so long as you kill a few white ones while your at it.

Yeah sure. I mean the Russians and Chinese and others like North Korea and Iranians seem to feel like they could be killed by these bombers and not all are white or brown. Like I said, bombers don't discriminate. I mean its not like Muslims don't kill Muslims right? They are surely safe from their own.

 

[Rusty2]

Yeah sure. I mean the Russians and Chinese and others like North Korea and Iranians seem to feel like they could be killed by these bombers and not all are white or brown. Like I said, bombers don't discriminate. I mean its not like Muslims don't kill Muslims right? They are surely safe from their own.

I have no idea what you are trying to say. Do you deny that the American Armed forces have killed an awful lot of brown babies?
This new marvel of engineering will surely continue this grand and noble tradition.

 

[Oldman1]

I have no idea what you are trying to say. Do you deny that the American Armed forces have killed an awful lot of brown babies?
This new marvel of engineering will surely continue this grand and noble tradition.

Do you deny Muslims killing Muslim babies?

 

[Rusty2]

Do you deny Muslims killing Muslim babies?

Absolutely not.
Are you done with your whataboutism now?
Can we get back to the topic?

 

[Oldman1]

Absolutely not.
Are you done with your whataboutism now?
Can we get back to the topic?

LOL! Yeah sure.