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Australian growing relations with India, where does Pakistan stand?

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has reached a historical agreement with India in the field of science & technology, defense, and maritime security on 4th of June 2020 during a virtual summit with the Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

PM Morrison’s visit to India was scheduled for last January, but canceled due to bushfire in Australia, followed by COVID 19 situation.

India and Australia are attempting to counter the rising power of China in the region. China is significantly growing its expanding belt and road initiative. In recent times, China has expanded its military presence in the South China Sea, which is an alarming situation for the United States and Australia. Therefore, the United States wants Australia to extend her relationship with India, especially in maritime time activities in the Indian Ocean region. India also desires to have free trade with Australia. United States invited Australia and India in G7, which has been scheduled to be held this year at Camp David. Therefore, it should have been noticed by the Pakistan foreign office through their diplomats in Australia and counter to the Indian plan for India-Australia relations.

Building relations with Australia could have been an opportunity for Pakistan, particularly in maritime, education, science & technology. Australia is one of the few countries where Pakistan established its embassy in 1948 before India established its relations after the partition of the sub-continent. There was a time when Pakistan had closer ties with Australia compare to Australian relations with India. In the last 40 years or so, there has been a continuous decline in Pakistan-Australian relations. It demonstrates the incompetence and ineffective progress of the Pakistani mission in Australia.

The growing interest of Australia to have strong relations with India in various fields must have been known to Pakistani diplomat a long time ago. So, the point is what Pakistani diplomats have done in the last few years or so. The Australian national media gives India significant space while Pakistanis in Australia hardly see any story on Pakistan-Australia relations. When the news broke out in the Australian media about two years ago regarding the planned visit of the Australian Prime Minister to India, did Pakistani diplomat in Canberra or Sydney tried to invite the Australian Prime Minister to visit Pakistan when will visit to India?

Primary Role of diplomats is to create opportunities for their country in trade, economy, science & technology, and other areas available in the country where they are appointed. Talking about the progress of Pakistani diplomats in Australia concerning Pakistan-Australia relations in trade, science & technology, education, maritime or other areas and compare with the work of Indian diplomats for India, it is highly disappointing what Pakistani diplomats have done for India.

Pakistanis living in Australia see the productivity of Pakistani diplomats is in socializing with so-called Pakistani community leaders, attending parties and community functions as VIPs. Indeed stamping visas and renew passport are their administrative duties; nevertheless, their real job is to promote and extend relations of Pakistan with Australia in different fields. Attending small and large functions as Honourable Guests, having photo-sessions with the community members, and promoting their engagement with community selected members on social media, and now chatting online with a couple of so-called leaders and journalists are not the primary function of the diplomats.

In the current situation of COVID 19, like others, Pakistanis in Australia has been gone through a challenging time, especially over 12,000 Pakistani students gone through financial crises. Pakistani students lost jobs and have no money left to pay their bills, rent for accommodations, pay college/university fees and buy foods to survive. Pakistani diplomat office announced that they would help them and make a travel arrangement so that they can return to their homes in Pakitan. Then they arrange two flights and charged $3000 airfare to these poor, jobless students. They have announced an emergency phone number and formed a committee to look after Pakistani students and visitors issues. But and as a matter of fact, Pakistanis found diplomat offices phone number never be available, committee supposed to help Pakistani community composed on those people who were seen busy in the photo session for self-projection. There are some sincere individual Pakistanis, and groups help Pakistani students, and those needed urgent attention using their resources and fund collections.

Recently, Pakistani foreign minister, Makhdoom Shah Mahmood Qureshi, was engaged online on social media set-up by the Pakistani High Commission with local Pakistani figures claimed as the representatives of Pakistani community in Australia. First of all, this was not a status of a foreign minister of Pakistan to appear on a social media type online arrangement. If this was the wish of the Foreign Minister Qureshi, then his meeting should have been arranged with the Australian national media or with prominent & experienced Pakistani journalist working in Australia. It was not a difficult job for the diplomat to find who is actively involved and genuinely represent the over 50,000 Pakistanis in Australia. Secondly, if the foreign minister had to connect with the Pakistanis in Australia, his meeting should have been announced in the community through prominent and genuine media and community platforms.

PM Khan's slogan was to bring change in Pakistan before he came to power, but now after nearly two years, no change has been seen in the corrupt and inefficient culture of diplomatic offices. I have been watching the activities of Pakistani diplomats for the last at least 25 years in Australia, and when I compare their output with the output of Indian diplomats and how Indians have built relations with Australia, I feel shame.

The majority of overseas Pakistanis demonstrated support to Imran Khan, and his party Pakistan Tehreek e Insaf before Imran Khan came to power. Therefore, Khan’s government has to look at what is happening in Pakistani diplomatic offices in Australia and make things right. (Syed Atiq ul Hassan, writer, is Sydney-based Journalist, analyst, editor Tribune International (Australia), his email address is shassan@tribune-intl.com ).
See, this is paindo thinking. Dost chahy kisi kam k nah hon, doston ki wajah se apna ghar ujar jaey, laykin dost hon 15 20, bilawaj k.
Nai chahiay hain dost.
Mark my words, if you are capable enough, there will many goods friends, and many good relationships. And for this capability, we need to focus on our own people, specially people from 0 to 40 years of age.
Translate knowledge in Urdu. At first, establish industry for our own consumption (self reliance). After, start taking on others.
Australia is making her relations good with India, because India is a big consumer. And after bans from China, Australia is looking for big buyers.
I mean, in West and China enmity, Australia sided with west for no good reasons, and now Australia with pay the price. Unless, Australia reconsiders her international policies.
 
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See, this is paindo thinking. Dost chahy kisi kam k nah hon, doston ki wajah se apna ghar ujar jaey, laykin dost hon 15 20, bilawaj k.
Nai chahiay hain dost.
Mark my words, if you are capable enough, there will many goods friends, and many good relationships. And for this capability, we need to focus on our own people, specially people from 0 to 40 years of age.
Translate knowledge in Urdu. At first, establish industry for our own consumption (self reliance). After, start taking on others.
Australia is making her relations good with India, because India is a big consumer. And after bans from China, Australia is looking for big buyers.
I mean, in West and China enmity, Australia sided with west for no good reasons, and now Australia with pay the price. Unless, Australia reconsiders her international policies.

Either the author is plain crazy and doesn't know how diplomacy works, or he is just naive.

Anyone who utters Australia already knows by default that this country is closely allied with the US and regards China as a major threat. India that also belongs in the China containment camp is obviously a partner in this area. Whether Australia and India suck up to each other to contain China is not news to anyone. The author seems to disregard these facts.

Pakistan has a strong ally in China. We are not going to be impressed by Morrison meeting Modi LOL
 
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When a wide range of countries like Australia, UAE, Vietnam, Mexico expand relationships with India without expanding ties with Pakistan.

pretty soon you will be wondering what hit you

UAE, Vietnam, and Mexico its like india is having best friend who next exist when needed.
 
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Why don't you take a hike? LOL at criticism. You are an Indian cheerleader. You are not criticising, but cheerleading. Every person on this forum knows who you are. Your hate and rants against Pakistan are well known.
Either he is pretending not to be Indian - which is understandable - or he is not Indian and wishes he was. If it’s the second option - he needs to go see a shrink.
Just because the Indians have had a meet with Ausland - they feel they will now rise in the global picture? They will never grow until they sort their obsessions.
Time to go to surgery and save lives! Tot ziens.
 
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Shouldn't it cultivate one though ? I mean that's the whole premise of that article

I understand what you are trying to say but then a country (Pakistan) which has never taken interest to develop this relationship in the first place, although it had plenty of opportunities, then I do not see this happening in the near to medium future at ALL. In other words, Australia has ZERO influence on Pakistan and vice versa in any shape or form.
 
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Either he is pretending not to be Indian - which is understandable - or he is not Indian and wishes he was. If it’s the second option - he needs to go see a shrink.
Just because the Indians have had a meet with Ausland - they feel they will now rise in the global picture? They will never grow until they sort their obsessions.
Time to go to surgery and save lives! Tot ziens.

He is a Tamil Sri Lankan. Of course he is going to sing praises of his beloved India. He is known for his pro-India and anti-Pakistan stance. The members who have been here long enough know this treacherous character inside out.

Tot ziens and save some lives!
 
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Why is it that even minute constructive criticism of Pakistan from a non Pakistani are taken with such over the top offense, And automatically construed as by an Indian ? Usually people get this defensive when they have nothing to or little facts to retort

LMAO this guy calls people wankers and thinks it's "constructive criticism of Pakistan". I'm so glad that no matter how hard boat people like you try to pretend to be Australian, at the end of the day, your skin tone will always stay the same shade of disgusting muddy toilet brown, reminding Bogans there's a foreigner who needs a good bashing.
 
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I understand what you are trying to say but then a country (Pakistan) which has never taken interest to developed this relationship in the first place, although it had plenty of opportunities, then I do not see this happening in the near to medium future at ALL. In other words, Australia has ZERO influence on Pakistan and vice versa in any shape or form.

Fair call, But would'nt you as an Pakistani Aussie (I presume) think it's counter productive, Lets leave military affairs out but atleast diplomatic and economic ties.. Dismissing any nation as irrelevant in a globalized world imo is a major blunder

LMAO this guy calls people wankers and thinks it's "constructive criticism of Pakistan". I'm so glad that no matter how hard boat people like you try to pretend to be Australian, at the end of the day, your skin tone will always stay the same shade of disgusting muddy toilet brown, reminding Bogans there's a foreigner who needs a good bashing.

Lol.. So you conveniently missed how you "Dutch" friend needlessly went on a hissy fit to which i responded in kind ? Birds of a feather i guess
 
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Thats usually the case everywhere



Why is it that even minute constructive criticism of Pakistan from a non Pakistani are taken with such over the top offense, And automatically construed as by an Indian ? Usually people get this defensive when they have nothing to or little facts to retort

Ive noticed that a lot here. The same people thanking your posts when you criticise India, Modi etc, will curse you out when you criticise something about Pakistan, China or Turkey. Although in my case it is expected since i have an indian flag
 
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He is a Tamil Sri Lankan. Of course he is going to sing praises of his beloved India. He is known for his pro-India and anti-Pakistan stance. The members who have been here long enough know this treacherous character inside out.

Tot ziens and save some lives!

@Nilgiri @waz Apparently im a Tamil Sri Lankan, You cant make this shit up :lol:
 
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Lol.. So you conveniently missed how you "Dutch" friend needlessly went on a hissy fit to which i responded in kind ?

Don't care about that, I'm just here to dab on the monkey roleplaying as an Australian.
 
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Ive noticed that a lot here. The same people thanking your posts when you criticise India, Modi etc, will curse you out when you criticise something about Pakistan, China or Turkey. Although in my case it is expected since i have an indian flag

Nah apparently i'm A Tamil Sri Lankan refugee :lol:

Don't care about that, I'm just here to dab on the monkey roleplaying as an Australian.

As opposed to ? Whats your definition of a Australian ?
 
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