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[jhungary]

@waz , @Horus , @WebMaster , @Chinese-Dragon , @Hu Songshan

Sirs, I do hope you would take action and strip the above member of its negative rating privileges because, as he admits in his above post, the said term is not racist, but a historical-political term.

Whether it is an insult is also debatable. If the word ‘insult' is taken so lightly, anything can be construed as an insult and a negative rating can be given.

Is the term "Chinese Communist" an insult? In my opinion, it is not. In the same sense, calling a government run by a Communist party should not be viewed as an insult.

As I said before, I would request the respectful moderators to decide once and for all whether the said term is an insult that warrants a negative rating or not.

Otherwise, the above poster will use his negative rating powers arbitrarily. If you construe the term as an insult, then the above member would be right in his judgement and I would have nothing else to add.

Regards.

I quote the post for your reference.

And you twisted my word.

I DID NOT SAY THE TERM IS NOT RACIST. I said EVEN IF I did not contest whether or not the term is racist, this is still offensive. This is a lot different than I am saying the term is not racist.

And Not only me think this is an insult, another Vietnamese member and possibly ALL Vietnamese member considered this an insult as well.

 

[terranMarine]

Like i said before that hybrid is faking his high morale by using this functionality which he describes as some kind of divine power so he can hand out negative ratings to Chinese members for using "Vietcong" in which he now says is an insult. But everybody can tell he never complains about that Pinoy for calling Chinese Nazis nor using his so called power . So if that is not double standard then i don't know what is. And if he considers my reply to him as an attack then it is because he deserved it in the first place for acting so full of himself.

 

[TaiShang]

Like i said before that hybrid is faking his high morale by using this functionality which he describes as some kind of divine power so he can hand out negative ratings to Chinese members for using "Vietcong" in which he now says is an insult. But everybody can tell he never complains about that Pinoy for calling Chinese Nazis nor using his so called power . So if that is not double standard then i don't know what is. And if he considers my reply to him as an attack then it is because he deserved it in the first place for acting so full of himself.

Exactly. I just wish the respected moderators @waz , @Hu Songshan , @Horus , @WebMaster would take care of this situation so that the above member would not hand out negative rating out of what seems to be pure hatred and animosity towards a group of people.

One cannot simply declare a historical-political terms racist or insult without basing one's argument on solid empirical-terminological grounds.

What the rest of the Vietnamese members that this member seems to have communicated think do not matter.

The mods need to make it clear whether they view the term as an insult or not. If not, the negative rating must be abolished and the member abusing his privilege must be stripped of it.

 

[EAsian]

How many negative ratings should he receive by posting this clearly personal insult post if you get one by saying vietcong?

 

[TaiShang]

How many negative ratings should he receive by posting this clearly personal insult post if you get one by say vietcong?

If I had negative rating power, I would certainly use it against this member for explicit personal insult.

I do hope that moderators will take this issue seriously and clamp down on hatred and animosity-based negative rating by certain member.

@waz , @Horus , @Hu Songshan , @WebMaster

 

[terranMarine]

LOL we Chinese can also consider that statement "i'm a Chinese" as an insult since he's clearly a hybrid. That dude has no shame labeling himself Chinese.

 

[gambit]

Anyone who wants to take Vietcong as an insult - then an insult is born within him/herself instantly

Buddy...

The Viet Cong, as a movement and as a paramilitary unit, was a temporary thing. Once the Vietnam War was over, calling any Viet 'Viet Cong' not only is wrong, but is also an insult. Would YOU mind being call a 'coolie' ?

@waz , @Horus , @WebMaster , @Chinese-Dragon , @Hu Songshan

Sirs, I do hope you would take action and strip the above member of its negative rating privileges because, as he admits in his above post, the said term is not racist, but a historical-political term.

Whether it is an insult is also debatable. If the word ‘insult' is taken so lightly, anything can be construed as an insult and a negative rating can be given.

I call you guys 'conscript rejects' and you guys whined about it.

 

[TaiShang]

You can be anyone as you wish. Cyber-space is your limit. Your claims are definitely inconsequential and harmless.

At least your claim for expertise is safe and sound, unlike the poor soul below. Stay in that domain, anonymous internet user.

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[rcrmj]

@waz , @Horus , @WebMaster , @Chinese-Dragon , @Hu Songshan , sirs, I believe that action needs to be taken as to the hate-filled negative rating saga against a respected member @Keel and then @terranMarine .

This kind of irresponsible use of one's privileges may not be accepted.

The used term is definitely not racist, it is entirely political. It has nothing to do with color, religion or sect. The said term is a historical-political reference and also being used widely by the same people (in the historical-academic context) against whom the above member claims the term is being used.

I do hope and wish that you would take immediate action and solve the issue once and forever. I would request you to decide whether the term is racist or not and take action accordingly.

If you decide the term is racist, that's final I would respect your opinion. But the term should not be abused by a member holding no moderator but negative rating power.

Regards.

that guy is not mature enough to have such power,
he is acting like a kid, issuing negative rating just because he lost in his 'wisdom' and words

@WebMaster, just have a review of jhungary's rating record, you will find the regretting truth is that only the Chinese members were receiving it, and jhungary's stance is well-known here, which is prejudice and somehow hatred towards Chinese and China

 

[gambit]

that guy is not mature enough to have such power,
he is acting like a kid, issuing negative rating just because he lost in his 'wisdom' and words

@WebMaster, just have a review of jhungary's rating record, you will find the regretting truth is that only the Chinese members were receiving it, and jhungary's stance is well-known here, which is prejudice and somehow hatred towards Chinese and China

Yeah...Pretty much even legitimate criticisms of China constitutes racial 'hatred' against Chinese while you Chinese calling others 'monkeys' gets a pass from your protector in the admin staff.

 

[jhungary]

that guy is not mature enough to have such power,
he is acting like a kid, issuing negative rating just because he lost in his 'wisdom' and words

@WebMaster, just have a review of jhungary's rating record, you will find the regretting truth is that only the Chinese members were receiving it, and jhungary's stance is well-known here, which is prejudice and somehow hatred towards Chinese and China

lol some kind of PDF Chinese logic at work I reckon

That guy recieved 3 or 4 negative rating from me in the window of 4 minutes, and this is not because he did put the same insult over and over again in 4 minutes, no, he got it because I am not mature enough and only targetting Chinese member?

I only ever hang around technical section and Chinese section and there are virtually NO TROLL on technical section, and only people who troll the other in the Chinese section, well, surprise, surprise, its the PDF Chinese brigade itself. Of course I only leave Negative rating to Chinese...

But no, all my rating is invalid because it was all to Chinese member, regardless what they had say right?

 

[70U63]

You guys need to calm the fxxk down.
Example :
It is like using the term Jap, some Japanese found this term insulting (or racist). But please...
Jap is an English abbreviation of the word "Japanese." Today it is generally regarded as an ethnic slur among Japanese minority populations in other countries, although English-speaking countries differ in the degree to which they consider the term offensive. In the United States, Japanese Americans have come to find the term controversial or offensive, even when used as an abbreviation. In the past, Jap was not considered primarily offensive; however, during and after the events of World War II, the term became derogatory.
Jap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And this is internet forum, don't be too serious. People still getting killed in middle east, you guys should grab your popcorn and watch the show.

 

[powastick]

Its so obvious jhungry is trolling.

 

[William Hung]

Can the Chinese members here stop trying to wiggle your way out of your mistake. Jhungary is correct on this one. Here is another academic reference:

Vietcong is a derogatory abbreviation used in South Vietnam for “those who direct guerilla warfare and also are subversive agents” that is, Vietnamese Communist. The term is not used in north Vietnam.

Quoted from page 5 in Air War Vietnam: Plans and Operations by J. van Staaveran and S. Slate.

Like I said, just google “Vietcong” and “derogatory” together and you will get many other academic references that will attest to the demeaning nature of the word “Vietcong”. The origin of the word was for insulting purposes.

Calling Vietnamese communist as Vietcong is derogatory, as it was intended to be. Calling non-communist Vietnamese as a Vietcong is even more so. So for a non-Vietnamese to generalise Vietnamese people, whether they are communist or not, and label them as Vietcong is indeed racist. Vietnamese members here have also already agreed to this. If your excuse is you didnt know, well now you can clearly know.

You are free to leave your Vietcong comments, but don’t moan if it gets negative ratings, as per forum rule.

 

[jhungary]

First of all, if you have to accuse of me trolling, PLEASE DO SPELL MY USERNAME RIGHT.

I considered that is an insult if you trying to insult me but you got the wrong username. My name is JHungary, not Jhungry. People have got to get this right or instead of insulting me, you would be insulting an entire Fast Food Chain, not that they needed insult anyway.

Secondly, the term "Vietcong" as mentioned by Vietnamese member here are created with Degradation in mind, it was not a short of Vietnamese Communist, that word is V-Com or VCP. The word is not originally a short for anything, it does not have a term Vietcong to begin with, it was made solely to degrade an entire group of people.

Now, the war is far over, calling Vietnamese in general as Vietcong would even lost the original taste and would consider very offensive to North and South Vietnamese alike. It was a slur before, and it is more than a slur now.

Finally, I am not the one who jump up and down wanting to clear this up, that guy have 3 negative rating in 4 minutes because he post 3 exact same post in 4 minutes, he is the one making noise, I don't really care what he is thinking of me or to some extend what you lot think of me anyway.