Atheists Rise in India while Fall in Pakistan

[PlanetWarrior]

fake or true i wont go into details but idolworshiping is an ancient religion. You may break it into different branches but the main point is that atheism is NOT part of hinduism . Those Indian hindus who come up with facepalm claims like they are atheists and at the same time worshiping shiva, vishnu, and so on, are just tyring to portray themself as liberals for the world.

either you are follower of a religion or not thats all.

if you are an ethiest then howcome you follow one religion and discard the other.

Alright end of the thread.

Indian Hindus worship all kinds of objects and idiols as gods and at the same time they say they are athiests.

well yeh oh they dont believe in ibrahamic religion so yup they are athiests

From my observations of your postings on this forum, you seem to adopt the approach that if it doesn't fit within the Abrahamic line of belief then it can't be a religion. On a wide comparative basis, wouldn't you agree with me that by adopting that approach you are in effect saying that if it doesn't fly then it can't be a bird ?

 

[Banana]

Indians have kamzoor iman.

Concept of Imam is not there in Hinduism.

They know their statues cannot help themselves if they are pushed over. So they know their religion is fake, but have to latch on to it for cultural/traditional reasons.

Define Religion.

Islam guides you with a Prophet, God, Holy Book and Hadeeths.

If you go outside this, you are dead.

Hindus are Free to pursue their own path.

Muslims only have Allah's Path

Hindu: Unlimited

Muslim: Only One Way, No way else!

So they try to justify their hypocrisy by saying that atheism is a part of hinduism.

Hindu can be atheist, tomorrow a deist and after that does not even care about God. He is Free throughout his Life.

Muslim is a Slave of Allah right from his Birth to Death.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

I've made my point, it's here for everyone to see.

I'm done with this thread, cuz i dont want to hurt sentiments of others.

Just expose Indians for bring hypocritical about their religion.

Only hypocrite exposed here is yourself buddy. Living in the UK I would expect you to be much more enlightened as an individual. I guess you can take the animal out of the bush but you certainly can't take the bush out of the animal

 

[RazPaK]

You are clearly in territory where you dont know what you are talking about. This is very much possible in Hinduism. As I mentioned to RazPak, these matters are much yObeyonf the understanding of Muslims of Pakistan, where you guys have a much different thinking...

Ever heard of Savarkar? He is one of the founding members of the RSS and the Hindutva ideology. You cant get anymore legit Hindu than that. He claimed himself to be a Hindu-Atheist.

Don't mudsling here.

I can mention more negatives about your religion than you can mine.

 

[Spring Onion]

From my observations of your postings on this forum, you seem to adopt the approach that if it doesn't fit within the Abrahamic line of belief then it can't be a religion. On a wide comparative basis, wouldn't you agree with me that by adopting that approach you are in effect saying that if it doesn't fly then it can't be a bird ?

NO. if you had read carefully thats what the Indians think NOT me.

Many indians here imply that they are Hindus but at the same time athiests. Its like worhshiping all hindu gods and also claiming that they dont believe in them.

 

[the_man]

Don't mudsling here.

I can mention more negatives about your religion than you can mine.

Which part of my post was mudsling? I never insulted anyone.

I simply mentioned that Muslims in Pakistan have a very different line of thinking, when compared to Hinduism in India. Which is very true...

 

[Spring Onion]

Concept of Imam is not there in Hinduism.



Define Religion.

Islam guides you with a Prophet, God, Holy Book and Hadeeths.

If you go outside this, you are dead.

Hindus are Free to pursue their own path.

Muslims only have Allah's Path

Hindu: Unlimited

Muslim: Only One Way, No way else!



Hindu can be atheist, tomorrow a deist and after that does not even care about God. He is Free throughout his Life.

Muslim is a Slave of Allah right from his Birth to Death.

Yes we are on path of Allah. And we proudly claim to be slave of One and ONLY God and not slaves of many gods

You are right in hinduism there is no place for iman. You iman or belief can be changed but the gods will remain one or the way.

In other words you are religious hindus and not atheists.

oh by the way if Hindus are not guided by books then why to impose cow slaughter ban on pretext of vedas?

 

[RazPaK]

Only hypocrite exposed here is yourself buddy. Living in the UK I would expect you to be much more enlightened as an individual. I guess you can take the animal out of the bush but you certainly can't take the bush out of the animal

You guys kill people over cows.

You persecute your ppl and cast them as outcasts in your society.

You philosophical mantra goes into the dustbim.

So don't talk to me about hypocrisy.

 

[WAR-rior]

Atheists are hindus too..agnostics specially..so say our vedas..no sweat for us. Let the Abrahamic religions worry. We are not a religion of submission but a faith of knowledge..and then people wonder how and why we've endured for so long.

Exactly the Point. Bulls Eye

 

[PlanetWarrior]

NO. if you had read carefully thats what the Indians think NOT me.

Many indians here imply that they are Hindus but at the same time athiests. Its like worhshiping all hindu gods and also claiming that they dont believe in them.

But that is my exact point. You simply refuse to accept the message that they are passing onto you. Hinduism is not one single dictated religion unlike the Abrahamic religions. Even within the Abrahamic religions there are divisions. Islam for example has Suffi, Shia, Ahmediyas etc. Now you would stand up (possibly) and cataegorically claim that a Shia or a Ahmediya is NOT a Muslim. They on the other hand would say "we ARE Muslims". And the fight begins. The counter to that is if they start claiming that they are Hindus, most Hindus would put their hands together and welcome them with a Namaste/Vannekum etc

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

NO. if you had read carefully thats what the Indians think NOT me.

Many indians here imply that they are Hindus but at the same time athiests. Its like worhshiping all hindu gods and also claiming that they dont believe in them.

Well my passport says"Hindu" in the religion section... because I am a born Hindu... but I am an atheist... world over Athisim is not a recognized religion so there is not a single application form that accepts Athisim as a just entry in religion sections.

The advantage of being a born Hindu is that I was allowed to question.. apply logic...and then chose what I want to believe... I doubt any other religion in the world gives you that kind of flexibility.

 

[scorpionx]

Thread like this always end up in finding faults in each other. So I pray this thread should get closed now.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

You guys kill people over cows.

You persecute your ppl and cast them as outcasts in your society.

You philosophical mantra goes into the dustbim.

So don't talk to me about hypocrisy.

If a few Hindus kill people over cows then the comparison can be equated to a few Muslims who kill people over a cartoon. Yup there is the dogma of castes in Hindu culture (not religion). Care to explain the bombing of Shia, Sunni , Deobandi mosques etc in Islamic societies including your homeland Pakistan and exponate on your denial that a caste system of "what is a true Muslim" in Islam is arising? My philosiphical mantra is simply this .."judge not lest you be judged" Have a good day

 

[Banana]

Yes we are on path of Allah. And we proudly claim to be slave of One and ONLY God and not slaves of many gods

Hindus can be Friends of God, they may treat God as their mother, father, anyway they want. They are free to pursue their own path and out of their willingness.

Muslims have no advantage like Hindus. Even if it is against their free will, Muslims have to practice Islam mandatorily.

You are right in hinduism there is no place for iman. You iman or belief can be changed but the gods will remain one or the way.

In other words you are religious hindus and not atheists.

Your deeds are important in Hinduism, not God.If God does not exist, does not matter, I should be doing good deeds. That's Dharma!

oh by the way if Hindus are not guided by books then why to impose cow slaughter ban on pretext of vedas?

Hinduism and India is inter woven. In India No Cow Slaughter, We don't care if you kill all the cows in the rest of the world.

 

[the_man]

NO. if you had read carefully thats what the Indians think NOT me.

Many indians here imply that they are Hindus but at the same time athiests. Its like worhshiping all hindu gods and also claiming that they dont believe in them.

Hinduism is more than just a religion, its the soul of ancient India. Hinduism also has a lot of cultural aspects of ancient India.