Atheists Rise in India while Fall in Pakistan

[bornmoron]

Quite possible ,,,Eg Bollywood,,,,

or they have a modern lifestyle and want to shy away from religion. thats what we have seen in such veild claims by certain liberals.

 

[RazPaK]

What is an organised? there are only Abrahamic religion which is organised and every branch of it is produly carrying it forward one or the other.

81 % Hindus are strictly believers of their gods and faith. You cant just claim to be a hindu and ethiest at the same time but yes for cosmatic face saving you can be. thats simple.

its like if i say oh i dont follow the god but i believe in some supreme divine power.



the surprise is that they worship shiva and at the same time they say we dont believe in him.

Indians have kamzoor iman.

They know their statues cannot help themselves if they are pushed over. So they know their religion is fake, but have to latch on to it for cultural/traditional reasons.

So they try to justify their hypocrisy by saying that atheism is a part of hinduism.

 

[the_man]

Indians are kaafirs. What's the big surprise here?

"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil, that takes religion. " - Steven Weinberg

 

[surya kiran]

You cant just claim to be a hindu and ethiest at the same time

Yes you can. If you do not understand better to ask and clarify rather than pass judgements.

Indians have kamzoor iman.

Indians are not the ones who have sold everything to the Americans. Tells you a lot about relevant things that you are stating.

 

[xuxu1457]

Believe is a very pertional problem, why pay close attention on the problem???

 

[sms]

What is an organised? there are only Abrahamic religion which is organised and every branch of it is produly carrying it forward one or the other.

81 % Hindus are strictly believers of their gods and faith. You cant just claim to be a hindu and ethiest at the same time but yes for cosmatic face saving you can be. thats simple.

its like if i say oh i dont follow the god but i believe in some supreme divine power.

I've said it before it impossible for a person following Abrahamic religion and I've no intention to go in details as many people may feel offended. Let's agree to dis agree!!

 

[the_man]

Indians have kamzoor iman.

They know their statues cannot help themselves if they are pushed over. So they know their religion is fake, but have to latch on to it for cultural/traditional reasons.

So they try to justify their hypocrisy by saying that atheism is a part of hinduism.

We in India dont judge other people by the strength of their "imaan" as you put it.

Religion is a personal matter, whether you dont believe, are a liberal believer, or a conservative fundamentalist doesnt matter.

We dont have Taliban that kill you for not being "true believers", or whatever else it is they kill people for. That is a Pakistani phenomenon.

It might be a hard and alien concept for you Pakistanis to understand, but that is how it is.

 

[TopCat]

atheist, gay etc are the scar of the society.
chinese are the follower of Confusius, and making them as atheist are the ill design of the moronic atheist themselves.

There were Saitan from the very begining of human kind and there were atheist even with the small minority.

 

[Spring Onion]

Indians have kamzoor iman.

They know their statues cannot help themselves if they are pushed over. So they know their religion is fake, but have to latch on to it for cultural/traditional reasons.

So they try to justify their hypocrisy by saying that atheism is a part of hinduism.

fake or true i wont go into details but idolworshiping is an ancient religion. You may break it into different branches but the main point is that atheism is NOT part of hinduism . Those Indian hindus who come up with facepalm claims like they are atheists and at the same time worshiping shiva, vishnu, and so on, are just tyring to portray themself as liberals for the world.

either you are follower of a religion or not thats all.

if you are an ethiest then howcome you follow one religion and discard the other.

Alright end of the thread.

Indian Hindus worship all kinds of objects and idiols as gods and at the same time they say they are athiests.

well yeh oh they dont believe in ibrahamic religion so yup they are athiests

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

People love bashing Hindus... that is for sure.... by far Hinduism is the only religion that gives you right to question the religion itself.

You guys need to read "The Argumentative Indian- by Amratya Sen.

 

[sms]

Indians have kamzoor iman.

They know their statues cannot help themselves if they are pushed over. So they know their religion is fake, but have to latch on to it for cultural/traditional reasons.

So they try to justify their hypocrisy by saying that atheism is a part of hinduism.

That's not true. I found people kamzoor who dare not to say what they do. In that case most of Pakistanis are even kamzoor than Indians. Who ever I know from Pakistan are drinkers big time, lot of extremist group calling them religious man and killing human (god's own creation) and there are zillions example to say who is kamzoor.

Any way religion is matter of personal choice and must not be forced. So do not try to say what you do not understand and avoid generalizing to avoid mud slinging from both side.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Indians have kamzoor iman.

They know their statues cannot help themselves if they are pushed over. So they know their religion is fake, but have to latch on to it for cultural/traditional reasons.

So they try to justify their hypocrisy by saying that atheism is a part of hinduism.

The essence of Hinduism is karma, athma, moksha and dharma. Now any person who believes in those four essentials and the concept behind them is a good Hindu. You could worship Allah, Christ or Krshna' but the essential message in our scriptures is that God the creator is at rest and you dictate your future. God in the form of the preservor (birth, creation etc) will preserve and God in the form of the destroyer (nature etc) will destroy. The statues etc do not reflect God to us but respect to God. In fact, to us God need not be in the form of a statue. A Hindu could concentrate on a flower and trust that his prayer to God is being transmitted. The bottom line belief in Hinduism is that God has done His/Her job and it is encumbent upon the individual to do his/her duty as a good human being. We don't believe in a God who is plotting and planning and who is the best plotter and planner. For the average Hindu to do so would be unthinkable. It would be equating God to a bearded old man in a white rob hiding in a basement mixing a concoture of cocktail bombs to wipe out humanity. That is demeaning to the concept of God. If you ask the average Hindu to decribe God the response would be .."let me know when you find out". Hence your statue rhetoric is unnecessary. Your claim of a "fake religion" is applied by only one who has yet to understand the concept of God in all religions, including Islam. You need to find yourself first before you search for God my friend

 

[humanfirst]

Indians have kamzoor iman.

People with kamzoor iman are the ones who go on rampage and murder on the slightest provocation to save the "honor of religion",they bloody well know that their god is unable to punish the "blasphemer"..

They know their statues cannot help themselves if they are pushed over. So they know their religion is fake, but have to latch on to it for cultural/traditional reasons.

So they try to justify their hypocrisy by saying that atheism is a part of hinduism.

"Idol worshipping" is not at all the central dogma or philosophy in hinduism..And hinduism and its philosphy inherantly allows evolution and pluralism-So doesn't have to latch on anything..On the other hand you have to believe whatever quran and hadith tell you as eternal and perfect and uncorruptable laws-Be it the barbaric blasphemy laws or condoning rape of female pow or condoning child marriage-Just Because prophet muhammed done/allowed it all-you have to accept all of them as perfect and fine,no matter how $hitty you know they all are..Can you see the difference,pseudo arab..?

 

[RazPaK]

I've made my point, it's here for everyone to see.

I'm done with this thread, cuz i dont want to hurt sentiments of others.

Just expose Indians for bring hypocritical about their religion.

 

[the_man]

fake or true i wont go into details but idolworshiping is an ancient religion. You may break it into different branches but the main point is that atheism is NOT part of hinduism . Those Indian hindus who come up with facepalm claims like they are atheists and at the same time worshiping shiva, vishnu, and so on, are just tyring to portray themself as liberals for the world.

either you are follower of a religion or not thats all.

if you are an ethiest then howcome you follow one religion and discard the other.

You are clearly in territory where you dont know what you are talking about. This is very much possible in Hinduism. As I mentioned to RazPak, these matters are much beyonf the understanding of Muslims of Pakistan, where you guys have a much different thinking...

Ever heard of Savarkar? He is one of the founding members of the RSS and the Hindutva ideology. You cant get anymore legit Hindu than that. He claimed himself to be a Hindu-Atheist.

During his incarceration, Savarkar's views began turning increasingly towards Hindu cultural and political nationalism, and the next phase of his life remained dedicated to this cause.[13] In the brief period he spent at the Ratnagiri jail, Savarkar wrote his ideological treatise – Hindutva: Who is a Hindu?. Smuggled out of the prison, it was published by Savarkar's supporters under his alias "Maharatta." In this work, Savarkar promotes a radical new vision of Hindu social and political consciousness. Savarkar began describing a "Hindu" as a patriotic inhabitant of Bharatavarsha,[18] venturing beyond a religious identity.[13][19] While emphasising the need for patriotic and social unity of all Hindu communities, he described Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism and Buddhism as one and same. He outlined his vision of a "Hindu Rashtra" (Hindu Nation) as "Akhand Bharat" (United India), purportedly stretching across the entire Indian subcontinent. He defined the Hindu race as neither Aryan, Kolarian or Dravidian but as[20] that People who live as children of a common motherland, adoring a common holyland ”

Scholars, historians and Indian politicians have been divided in their interpretation of Savarkar's ideas. A self-described atheist,[2] Savarkar regards being Hindu as a cultural and political identity.