At least 80,000 Muslims in China Allegedly forced to do slave labor in Chinese concentration camps

[mangekyo]

How can Radio Free Asia found and count 1000 deaths without being able to provide even one name? What their number is based on?

What are you talking about, there is a database with full names, testimonies, occupation etc. https://shahit.biz/eng/#view

 

[beijingwalker]

How do you explain these??

True story in Xinjiang: alleged 'missing' people found safe and sound

So called "missing relatives" being interviewed on TV

Residents in Xinjiang debunk rumors of them going 'missing'

 

[beijingwalker]

Allegedly 'missing' Uygur woman found working in local restaurant

TV interview with reportedly missing Uygur

 

[mangekyo]

She is not on the list, no one filed her missing, thats just something CGTN made up.

Here is the list:

List of confirmed missing/killed Uighurs: https://shahit.biz/eng/#view
(Almost 10 000)

 

[beijingwalker]

How do you explain A dead Uighur can be on TV for interviewed the very next day after the western media delared his death?

 

[mangekyo]

How do you explain A dead Uighur can be on TV for interviewed the very next day after the western media delared his death?

Nobody claimed that person dead. And theres no interview lol

Here is the list:

List of confirmed missing/killed Uighurs: https://shahit.biz/eng/#view
(Almost 10 000)

 

[beijingwalker]

Nobody claimed that person dead.

Here is the list:

List of confirmed missing/killed Uighurs: https://shahit.biz/eng/#view
(Almost 10 000)

You are just in denial mode, refuse to face the facts.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1138534.shtml

 

[mangekyo]

You are just in denial mode, refuse to face the facts.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1138534.shtml

What has this to do with your video? @BHarwana You still dont believe it, after seeing his desperate and completely baseless irrelevant videos? Look at the video and look at the article he posts, you see they are not even related. He is only posting whatever he comes across.

 

[BHarwana]

Same logic

You dont trust Uighurs goes through ethnic cleansing and genocide in Xinjiang because western media wants us to believe it.

Then dont trust that Palestinians are being mistreated, because western media wants us to believe that too. You should side with Israel like you side with China.

Also dont trust Saudis are bombing Yemenis, because western media wants us to believe that too. Side with Saudis here.

How interesting:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/world/asia/kashmir-india-pakistan.html

Western propaganda!

Then Kashmir is a lie too.

Right?

Isn't this your logic?

Just a simple question. If they posted something about Kashmir which we already know means that they are our source for Kashmir? Most of western media sources for Kashmir are taken from PDF the very Place you are posting at & how one truth makes another lie a truth? I mean how are you trying to mix 2 things? If I say 1+1 =2 which is a global fact means that when I say japan is on moon is also truth? Strange comparison you are doing here. You are constantly trying to hurt Kashmir cause I have disagreed with you just to make me submit to your cause which is because you lack evidence of your cause. For how long will these tactics help you. I have trust issues & you will have to provide me proof & in it's answers you are still trying to justify with excuses rather than evidence. Intentions change on every story cause with every story foreign policy changes. You will have to do better than that.

 

[beijingwalker]

What has this to do with your video? @BHarwana You still dont believe it, after seeing his desperate and completely baseless irrelevant videos? Look at the video and look at the article he posts, you see they are not even related. He is only posting whatever he comes across.

You based all your claime on some unverifiable accounts from Radio Free Asia and take them as undisputble facts, but can't explain why those so called missing and dead people are on TV being interviewed, can anythinig be more pathetic than it?

 

[mangekyo]

@BHarwana Remember this video? The Pakistani who lost his wife?

Here is his wife:

https://shahit.biz/eng/viewentry.php?entryno=24


Testifying party (submitted by third party)

Mirza Imran Baig, 35, trader between Lahore and Urumqi. Pakistani citizen, Passport no: 3922392.

Victim's relation to testifier

The victim is Mirza's wife.

About the victim

Melike Memet, 33, from Bachu county (巴楚县). Uyghur, married to Mirza, couple have a 4-year-old daughter. DOB: January 5, 1985. Chinese ID: 65130198501031424. Occupation: cosmetics saleswoman.

Two media articles published are contradicting, but it can be said that she was in a camp in Bachu and has been under house arrest with her four-year-old since her release from the camp, while not being able to get her passport back:

She was detained for 14 months in a camp after returning to Xinjiang from Pakistan in February 2016. She has not been able to leave her hometown of Bachu or get her passport back, she is under house arrest with her 4-year-old daughter (source: 4)

She was detained in a camp for 2 months in Bachu county (in May and June 2017), then released but didn’t get her passport back and cannot leave Bachu county together with her four-year-old son (source 3)

Victim's location

In the Bachu (Maralbeshi) area.

When victim was detained

In May/June 2017.

Probable (or official) reason for detention

Not given.

Victim's status

Hometown arrest together with 4-year-old child. Passport confiscated.

How did the testifier learn about the victim's status?

Not specified. It is clear that Mirza is able to travel to China, however.

Additional information

This information comes from:

1) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-free-wives-trapped-in-xinjiang-idUSKCN1M51R7

2) https://apnews.com/def18b6ee7c34083...hina-seek-answers-about-detained-Uighur-wives

3) https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-trapped-in-xinjiang/articleshow/65952587.cms (published 25 SEPT 2018)

4) https://www.ft.com/content/b477529e-c150-11e8-95b1-d36dfef1b89a (published 26 SEPT 2018)

5) Letter by Lord Ahmed of Rotherham to Embassador of China in London Liu Xiaoming, https://twitter.com/nazir_lord/media

The letter from Lord Ahmed and the attached list of victims are available here: shahit.biz/supp/list_002.pdf

*Reuters reports Mirza Imran Baig as being 40, but according to the AP reporter this is a mistake - he is 35. Reuters also reports them having a son, but AP clarifies that this is a daughter.

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@BHarwana Still deny?

Check the site, there are almost 10 000 well documented cases. Check the site and then draw whatever conclusion you want.

https://shahit.biz/eng/#view

 

[beijingwalker]

@BHarwana Remember this video? The Pakistani who lost his wife?

Here is his wife:

https://shahit.biz/eng/viewentry.php?entryno=24


Testifying party (submitted by third party)

Mirza Imran Baig, 35, trader between Lahore and Urumqi. Pakistani citizen, Passport no: 3922392.

Victim's relation to testifier

The victim is Mirza's wife.

About the victim

Melike Memet, 33, from Bachu county (巴楚县). Uyghur, married to Mirza, couple have a 4-year-old daughter. DOB: January 5, 1985. Chinese ID: 65130198501031424. Occupation: cosmetics saleswoman.

Two media articles published are contradicting, but it can be said that she was in a camp in Bachu and has been under house arrest with her four-year-old since her release from the camp, while not being able to get her passport back:

She was detained for 14 months in a camp after returning to Xinjiang from Pakistan in February 2016. She has not been able to leave her hometown of Bachu or get her passport back, she is under house arrest with her 4-year-old daughter (source: 4)

She was detained in a camp for 2 months in Bachu county (in May and June 2017), then released but didn’t get her passport back and cannot leave Bachu county together with her four-year-old son (source 3)

Victim's location

In the Bachu (Maralbeshi) area.

When victim was detained

In May/June 2017.

Probable (or official) reason for detention

Not given.

Victim's status

Hometown arrest together with 4-year-old child. Passport confiscated.

How did the testifier learn about the victim's status?

Not specified. It is clear that Mirza is able to travel to China, however.

Additional information

This information comes from:

1) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-free-wives-trapped-in-xinjiang-idUSKCN1M51R7

2) https://apnews.com/def18b6ee7c34083...hina-seek-answers-about-detained-Uighur-wives

3) https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-trapped-in-xinjiang/articleshow/65952587.cms (published 25 SEPT 2018)

4) https://www.ft.com/content/b477529e-c150-11e8-95b1-d36dfef1b89a (published 26 SEPT 2018)

5) Letter by Lord Ahmed of Rotherham to Embassador of China in London Liu Xiaoming, https://twitter.com/nazir_lord/media

The letter from Lord Ahmed and the attached list of victims are available here: shahit.biz/supp/list_002.pdf

*Reuters reports Mirza Imran Baig as being 40, but according to the AP reporter this is a mistake - he is 35. Reuters also reports them having a son, but AP clarifies that this is a daughter.

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Photo on phone

How can you explain a presumbly dead person can be on TV being interviewed?? that's a hard fact no one can deny, as for personal claims, I can make a thousand each day.

 

[mangekyo]

How can you explain a presumbly dead person can be on TV being interviewed?? that's a hard fact no one can deny, as for personal claims, I can make a thousand each day.

There was no one who was claimed dead and showed up on TV. This is something you made up

 

[BHarwana]

@BHarwana Remember this video? The Pakistani who lost his wife?

Here is his wife:

View attachment 654150

https://shahit.biz/eng/viewentry.php?entryno=24


Testifying party (submitted by third party)

Mirza Imran Baig, 35, trader between Lahore and Urumqi. Pakistani citizen, Passport no: 3922392.

Victim's relation to testifier

The victim is Mirza's wife.

About the victim

Melike Memet, 33, from Bachu county (巴楚县). Uyghur, married to Mirza, couple have a 4-year-old daughter. DOB: January 5, 1985. Chinese ID: 65130198501031424. Occupation: cosmetics saleswoman.

Two media articles published are contradicting, but it can be said that she was in a camp in Bachu and has been under house arrest with her four-year-old since her release from the camp, while not being able to get her passport back:

She was detained for 14 months in a camp after returning to Xinjiang from Pakistan in February 2016. She has not been able to leave her hometown of Bachu or get her passport back, she is under house arrest with her 4-year-old daughter (source: 4)

She was detained in a camp for 2 months in Bachu county (in May and June 2017), then released but didn’t get her passport back and cannot leave Bachu county together with her four-year-old son (source 3)

Victim's location

In the Bachu (Maralbeshi) area.

When victim was detained

In May/June 2017.

Probable (or official) reason for detention

Not given.

Victim's status

Hometown arrest together with 4-year-old child. Passport confiscated.

How did the testifier learn about the victim's status?

Not specified. It is clear that Mirza is able to travel to China, however.

Additional information

This information comes from:

1) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-free-wives-trapped-in-xinjiang-idUSKCN1M51R7

2) https://apnews.com/def18b6ee7c34083...hina-seek-answers-about-detained-Uighur-wives

3) https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-trapped-in-xinjiang/articleshow/65952587.cms (published 25 SEPT 2018)

4) https://www.ft.com/content/b477529e-c150-11e8-95b1-d36dfef1b89a (published 26 SEPT 2018)

5) Letter by Lord Ahmed of Rotherham to Embassador of China in London Liu Xiaoming, https://twitter.com/nazir_lord/media

The letter from Lord Ahmed and the attached list of victims are available here: shahit.biz/supp/list_002.pdf

*Reuters reports Mirza Imran Baig as being 40, but according to the AP reporter this is a mistake - he is 35. Reuters also reports them having a son, but AP clarifies that this is a daughter.

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Photo on phone

So what should I do with this video? How should I relate it with camps in China & why should I believe this video. Where do you live? Norway? How many Muslims in China have you talked to? We live at the very border across which those Muslims are & why have not experienced those stories which you are talking about? why don't our truck drives which transport goods every day to China don't tell us those stories? why is that only you know about it & our media don't utters a word over it which has more & open access to China? My friend you telling these things to people who live here from standing at a place which far there.

 

[mangekyo]

So what should I do with this video? How should I relate it with camps in China & why should I believe this video. Where do you live? Norway? How many Muslims in China have you talked to? We live at the very border across which those Muslims are & why have not experienced those stories which you are talking about? why don't our truck drives which transport goods every day to China don't tell us those stories? why is that only you know about it & our media don't utters a word over it which has more & open access to China? My friend you telling these things to people who live here from standing at a place which far there.

Check the site that has almost 10 000 well documented cases, and then you will understand.
https://shahit.biz/eng/#view