Army reaction on decision by Special court about General Pervez Musharraf

[HAIDER]

Pakistan now victim of judicial anarchy ... Iftikhar Ch and Nawaz are the founder of this anarchy.... Now 4 weeks gone , anyone ask PMLn and Nawaz family where he is ? ...

 

[Village life]

Sir we think alike
I will never forgive him for what he didn't do while he could.
now he is a rag doll

actually he wanted to do but Fareeha Pervaiz ,Hadeeqa kayani and Black label was so pretty and attractive he couldn't resist, thus detracked and lost initiative , the unforgivable sin is NRO and it's the real treason for which he deserves death penalty , not for fu******kg up the prostitute constitution,

 

[Cool_Soldier]

Well, decision is not accepted by majority of people and stake holders.
It is going to be challenged in SC and hope to see cancellation of current death penalty.
It is important case , it must be trialed in a fair and neutral way.

 

[Mentee]

so they were the aider and abetter in the abrogation of Constitution in 1999 coup ....??

this one argument of yours is actually proving the the argument of Selective Justice under the influence of political interest of certain quarters.

The present judiciary got no qualms with ex president musharaf if the parlaimant ratifies his emergency + action . This is also what the books says to be done or bear the consequences.

Now History has it that when a pillar of state the Supreme Court was ransacked by gavalmandi goons and pakistan was reduced to a banana state still then the military didn't intervene even on the direct constitutional order of the chief justice syed Sajjad shah.

Judges could have got mob lynched that day.

And what did they do to uphold the rule of law as some posters are now a days harping it day in and out? they sent the notification asking for executing a courts judgement to a freaking secretary defence who in turn withheld it.

And theirs more to it. Has anyone ever dragged the army chief from his hairs?
Has anyone ever incarcerated the coas?
Has anyone ever called him out a foreign agent or fifth columnist?
Has anyone ever questioned why majority of them prefers to leave for western lands as soon as they retire?


Now plz don't make this some ex chief of some other instituition taking the heat a matter of biblical importance.

Tamatar sasaty kro yar

 

[SecularNationalist]

A person who fought wars for this country and risked his life and got injured is for sure not a traitor. He is paying the price of exposing Nawaz Sharif and his allegiance with corrupt judiciary i.e ifthikhar Chaudhary.
A strict punishment should be meted out to the court and judges who announced this death sentence despite knowing this death punishment will never be implemented because Pakistan armed forces and majority of pakistanis won't allow this to happen.
Since yesterday I personally feel very angry and want to shoot down the judges who made this decision and insulted the whole nation because pervez Musharraf is a hero of millions of pakistanis like me.

 

[Hayreddin]

Country where majority of judges are corrupted to core , sell their decision for money and women .where lawyers attack hospital , where judicial system is based on 150 yrs old anglosaxon laws , where u need to spend millions to getur ligimitate right and still have to wait decades . In such system always expect such decisions .

actually he wanted to do but Fareeha Pervaiz ,Hadeeqa kayani and Black label was so pretty and attractive he couldn't resist, thus detracked and lost initiative , the unforgivable sin is NRO and it's the real treason for which he deserves death penalty , not for fu******kg up the prostitute constitution,

Prostitute may be got some morality but this current system is worse than that

 

[TNT]

Patriotic liberals next joke people like you "PATRIOTIC" Pakistanis are the reason for our downfall the people you are naming patriotic in your dreams are as patriotic pakistani as Zardari and Nawaz Sharif spare us your bullshit patriotism no one on this forum I repeat no one will ever be as patriotic as general pervez Musharraf left shoe forget about the man himself you are not a worthy comparison


You dont represent patriotic Pakistanis

When did i call those thieves as patriotic Pakistanis??? Are u delusional or lack comprehension skills? Pakistan belongs to every Pakistani and not any specific group or institution. Also no one has the right to judge anyone as pateiotic and non patriotic. Musharaf maybe patriotic but he destroyed Pakistan. He got us into such a big mess that still we suffer, yet if he had ended these corrupt thigs, we would have loved him but that little scared man let them free, gave them NRO. He was a coward and deserve to be disgraced.

 

[Verve]

Nothing was really ammended. Only language was made stronger by adding the words "suspend or hold in abeyance". But that was only to cover some semantics play and shoddy excuses by past dictators (Oh, I didn't abrogate, I merely suspended!!).

Suspend covers Emergency specifically. Even civilian government can't impose emergency anymore.

AGP has called the conduct of the judges as Unconstitutional so Musharaf is not going to be hanged and if the courts keep breaking laws then Presidential Pardon will be there for him.

And if the death penalty remains, I would like the same unconstitutional treatment given to Maryam and Nawaz over Dawn Leaks. No witnesses, no evidence, no statement and verdict of death!

 

[GriffinsRule]

Who remembers the time when Nawaz Sharif's goons burned down the Lahore High Court

List of Traitors In Pakistan Who Deserve Instant Death Penalty.

People who deserve public hanging in Pakistan are the following.

1. Nawaz Lohaar (The king Traitors)

2. Shahbaz Lohaar ( Married To Nargis Khosa The Cheap Justice of Pakistan) LANATH.

3. Maryam Qatri

4. Zardaree Haramee Murdered BB

5. Murad Ali Shah.

6. Ifthekar Choudhry

7. Fazlu The Pig

8. Hamza Shahbaz

9. Captain Safdar

10. Asfand Yar Wali

11. Adee Faryal

12. Ishaq Dar

13. Ochuka Zai

14. Faez Esa A sitting judge with properties in UK.

15. Ahsan Iqbal

16. Saad Rafeeq

17. Hamid Mir

18. Malik Riaz

19. Hassan Hussan Nawaz rat bastards.infected DNA OF SATAN.

20. Rana San Ullah the Drug dealer.

21. Abid Kunjur Sher kulee.

Bonus death penalty.. Gay Bilawal.

You people can add more.

You missed Haqani and Yadav

1999 coup was provided legal cover by the parliament and judiciary.

2007 action was neither provided legal cover by the parliament nor judiciary.



Army is loosing its ground fast.

It was army who brought judiciary into this game. Now judiciary believes they are even more powerful then the army.


Musharaf bhi bahar he hay.

Remember while going to court for hearing protected by rangers instead of appearing in court he ended in AFIC Rawalpindi.

Real power is wielded by those that have guns in the end or support of those with guns. In a real fight between any branch of government and its military, the latter will always win. You can check any country's history to attest to that. Now, when you have corrupt branches of government trying to go after an institution, it has zero chance to success in the end as people see the duplicity, contradiction in meting out justice, and the utter hypocrisy and are not easily fooled.

 

[Ghessan]

Judiciary make it in a haste and that is wrong. what was behind this urgency raised the voices.
legal experts raised objections the way the verdict was given are quite considerable.

people were alert when supreme court took notice of chief's extension and then this.

judiciary is not setting good examples, it seems verdicts are not only influenced from outside but are also influenced by personal bias.

lawyers, the future of the benches in courts, have been experienced by the public several times one recent incidence evidence it, speaks of the future of judiciary.

this judiciary is based on lower courts which is corrupt to the extreme low to the level where our police stands in character and is hidden behind the same police department which takes all the share in corruption.

ns was allowed to go, indemnity asked in billions by govt was rejected by court. everybody knew what was cooking behind all this sickness of his. if count the traitor list ns is well ahead of everyone with a long list during all of his tenures if count together.


zardari is another story, bales are granting to zardari and sister. hence supreme court judges giving verdicts by quoting "big words" out of their tongue (running on tv channels as breaking news) does not look how everybody is slipping under their noses with bales. their house is not in order and they always lecture other institutions on same.

one wonders it is the duty of the parliament to do reforms in judiciary, if suo moto actions can be taken on petty matters, the sitting prime minster and opposition leader can also be trialed in the court after giving a time frame to do reforms for judiciary, even every party leader sitting in parliament can be summoned but no.

military did several wrongs during the history of this country particularly the 1990s. but they have their strength, stand and resolve so they recover. had the democracy given full chance since the independence either we would have matured by now in politics or these thugs sitting in parliament were not seen anymore.

ik is doing several mistakes and not reading between the lines where a word "conspiracy" is written clearly.

 

[ADIL SHERDIL]

Laws are meant for everyone if i am not wrong. If you want to hang Musharaf go ahead but also hang Maryam Nawaz for dawn leaks and also punish the corrupt politicians who always use the protection of courts and run abroad whenever their is a little problem. Also hang the LAWYERS how were involved in PIC attack.
Justice and law are equal and should be used the same way. But in Pakistan its used for scoring Politcal Points and CJ Khosa is painting a target on Judiciary back. I might be wrong but someone can please correct me " Punishment cannot be granted unless the accused is present in court". What the hell happened there?
What about the Model Town Incident or Sahiwal Incident? Innocents were killed there. Why Nawaz and Zardari are let go? Why every corrupt persons favorite court is LHC?
This is a disastrous decision by the courts which will only make situation worst. Are they trying to mock the armed forces or provoking them to do something? What about the Honorable Chief Justice Chaudary Iftakhar son?
I am not taking anyone side but pointing out some facts. People like me dont gives a rat *** if their is democracy or dictatorship as long as we have our jobs and we can provide our family with the necessities. Thats the bitter truth no bull shit.

 

[Crusher]

The way this PTI government is "defending" pervez musharraf by holding press conferences with "attorney general" has strengthened by "suspicion" that this current PTI/Imran Khan government is a puppet of establishment doing what is "ordered" to do by their masters in establishment. PTI government is behaving as if it has "rishtaydari" with musharraf or it is musharraf government 2.0.

 

[ejaz007]

Who remembers the time when Nawaz Sharif's goons burned down the Lahore High Court

You missed Haqani and Yadav


Real power is wielded by those that have guns in the end or support of those with guns. In a real fight between any branch of government and its military, the latter will always win. You can check any country's history to attest to that. Now, when you have corrupt branches of government trying to go after an institution, it has zero chance to success in the end as people see the duplicity, contradiction in meting out justice, and the utter hypocrisy and are not easily fooled.

Who remembers the time when IK goons attacked parliament.

The point to remember is that they all are the same.

There was a time during 90's when no one could dare question the military. Now they are sentencing a ex-COAS. Army is loosing the ground.

The real power is with the people of Pakistan. Remember when Turkish military attempted coup it was the people who stopped them.

Role of major characters in imposition of death penalty on Pervez Musharraf

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ISLAMABAD: Three major characters played a dominant role in building the high treason case that culminated in the award of unheard of death sentence to Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf for violating the Constitution.

The first and foremost role was played by Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry as the chief justice of Pakistan when heading the full court ruled on July 31, 2009 that Musharraf violated the Constitution by imposing a state of emergency on Nov 3, 2007and be tried for high treason.

Not only then-top judge pronounced the verdict but vigorously pursued later that it is implemented in letter and spirit. The Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) government successfully dragged its feet on enforcing the judgment and did not file the high treason compliant against Musharraf as ordered by the apex court. However, the PPP welcomed the imposition of capital punishment on the former dictator by the special court.

Just a few months after the subsequent Nawaz Sharif government took charge in June 2013, the chief justice started exerting pressure on it to execute the judgment specifically Musharraf’s trial on the high treason charge. However, it was apparently reluctant as it did not want to create a crisis when it had just started its new term.

Iftikhar Chaudhry launched implementation proceedings and at one point finally threatened to initiate contempt of court process against Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif for continuously disobeying the judicial direction. Ultimately, no option was left for the premier but to order Musharraf’s trial by the federal government.

The prime minister came in the National Assembly and announced the formation of a special court to proceed against the military dictator for high treason. A proper investigation was ordered before submitting the complaint in the tribunal. Thus, the process to try Musharraf was kicked off and the case was filed in the special court on Nov 20, 2013 on behalf of the federal government. So, Nawaz Sharif was one of the principal characters in Musharraf’s conviction for which he had to pay a heavy price later. Before that, he had been dismissed by the dictator in Oct 1999 after imposing martial law and exiled to Saudi Arabia. However, after assuming the office of the prime minister, Nawaz Sharif had declared that he had forgiven and forgotten the past and started a new beginning. However, Iftikhar Chaudhry literally forced him to launch the high treason proceedings against Musharraf.

Apart from a chief justice (Iftikhar Chaudhry), a prime minister (Nawaz Sharif) and a lawyer (Akram Sheikh), two judges of the special courts – Peshawar High Court Chief Justice Waqar Ahmad Seth and Justice Shahid Karim of the Lahore High Court (LHC) -, who concluded that Musharraf committed high treason, handed a very bold decision, creating ripples not only in Pakistan but abroad as well. This was the second consecutive day of important judicial decisions.

This was the first time ever in Pakistan’s history since incorporation of Article 6 in the Constitution that high trial case was initiated against the violator of the supreme document and he was convicted.

The third bold fellow, who also played a fundamental role in the case, was Akram Sheikh Advocate, who worked as the special prosecutor, appointed by the federal government. He had to undergo lots of sufferings and losses for forcefully pursuing the complaint in the special court. It was on the basis of his professional contribution that Musharraf has been sentenced.

A few weeks back when it appeared that the special court was about to hand its verdict, the present federal government dissolved the prosecution team headed by Akram Sheikh and hurled allegations over it as well. One of the accusations was that the team misrepresented and spoiled the case. It was only then when this team was detached from the case for the first time since 2013.

Even on the day the judgment was announced, the new prosecution team made its powerful efforts to prolong the case, but the three judges did not oblige. It wanted to implicate three others – then-Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, then-Law Minister Zahid Hamid and then-Chief Justice Abdul Hameed Dogar – in the trial but in vain.

The Supreme Court had held Musharraf solely responsible for violating the Constitution as the proclamation of emergency had been issued under his signatures in which he had admitted that this was his decision in view of the prevailing situation.

When Musharraf ruled, he had a large number of political allies and supporters, who all ran away after his exit never to look back. There was no weighty political voice speaking for him when death sentence was imposed on him by the special court. He left no political legacy to fall back on. The conviction was not less than a bombshell for the seriously ill former ruler.

New history has been written by the special tribunal, which comprised three judges from the Peshawar, Lahore and Sindh high courts. Musharraf has the right of appeal to approach the Supreme Court, which he is going to exercise. However, a question will rise about the “rights” of an absconder because it is often argued that such accused are divested of rights generally available to others.

The trial witnessed a number of judges forming the special court and adjournments during the six years. Different top lawyers represented Musharraf who now occupy top government positions.

The presence of Article 6 in the Constitution has often ridiculed and some have dubbed it as a redundant provision that has never been invoked to punish a dictator. It was significantly changed in the eighteenth amendment.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/58...position-of-death-penalty-on-pervez-musharraf

 

[Verve]

The way this PTI government is "defending" pervez musharraf by holding press conferences with "attorney general" has strengthened by "suspicion" that this current PTI/Imran Khan government is a puppet of establishment doing what is "ordered" to do by their masters in establishment. PTI government is behaving as if it has "rishtaydari" with musharraf or it is musharraf government 2.0.

That's your conclusion.

Government stance is clear that this process was unconstitutional and excluded all others who were part of imposing the Emergency. Judges refused the prosecution and defence both from bringing witnesses and evidence. No statements were allowed. Judges ran the court in a completely unconstitutional way.

Government will seek retrial with all involved and a proper constitutional trial.

Khosa Kutta directed this special court whereas he had no constitutional authority to do so. An illegal act, hence he's running off to USA immediately after retirement.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Who remembers the time when IK goons attacked parliament.

The point to remember is that they all are the same.

There was a time during 90's when no one could dare question the military. Now they are sentencing a ex-COAS. Army is loosing the ground.

The real power is with the people of Pakistan. Remember when Turkish military attempted coup it was the people who stopped them.

And Turkey peoples are more unite/educated than Pakistanis, and your NAWAS was result of army, And Musharaf is more loyal then the goons and leaders of PLM-N/PPP including NAWAZ/ZARDARI