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Army Colonel Warns: Chinese Preparing Attack on India by June/July 2012

Former Indian Army Officer Col. Dr. Anil Athale Warns: Expect a Chinese Attack Against India by 'June/July 2012'

In a recent article, former Indian Army officer Dr. Anil Athale warned that China is carefully orchestrating security-related incidents against India. Such incidents include Chinese military incursions into Indian territory in the Western and North-Eastern border regions of India, recent mistreatment of Indian diplomats and businessmen in China, recurring disputes on the issuance of visas, and diplomatic rows involving Chinese attempts to question Indian sovereignty in Jammu & Kashmir. Colonel (retired) Anil Athale, who is an author of the official history of the 1962 India-China conflict and now coordinator of the Indian Initiative for Peace, Arms Control & Disarmament (a think tank based in the city of Pune), warned that the government of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is failing to prepare the country's armed forces to fight a likely war against China, which he warns could come as early as June/July 2012.

He said that such a war could be like Pakistan's Kargil war, the 1999 conflict which originated after Pakistani troops and jihadists marched into Kashmir. "It is time India woke up. Luckily, we do have some time. At the moment the Himalayan passes are frozen and no military operations are possible. The likely threat will only emerge in June/July 2012. It must be made clear that one is not talking of an all-out war. What we must accept is a short, sharp, attack by the Chinese, more in the nature of a slap!" he wrote in a recent article. The article, titled "Expect a Chinese attack by June/July", was published by rediff.com, a leading Indian news and community portal. Following are excerpts from the article:

"On December 14, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh Told Parliament That His Government Does not Share the View That China Plans to Attack India"

"Last year when this author wrote about a Kargil-style foray by China in the near future, the idea was more in the realm of speculation. But the events of the last few months seem to move the likelihood from the speculative to the possible. "But it seems that New Delhi is in deep slumber or has no time to pay attention to such 'minor' issues like national security when all attention is focused on the upcoming assembly election in [the northern state of] Uttar Pradesh…." " :hitwall:

This is an attempt by a student of history to give a wake-up call. "What makes matters even worse than 'normal' in Delhi today is the inefficiency that has crept in all decision-making due to the 'Diarchy' that prevails in Delhi [i.e. a reference to decision making led by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and his Congress party's boss Sonia Gandhi in whose hands real power resides]. For those unfamiliar with the term – this was the system in British India when the rulers of the princely states had all the trappings of power but the British resident exercised the real power…." "[The ruling] United Progressive Alliance resembles that model with real power in the hands of the Gandhi dynasty while the prime minister has all the trappings of power. What this has done is the pivotal position of the Prime Minister's Office and its job of co-ordination and enforcement of the will of the government on the State machinery is severely compromised. "In case of vital decisions on security issues, this can lead to disasters. "The portents indeed are ominous. On December 14, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh told Parliament that his government does not share the view that China plans to attack India.

"Exactly half a century ago, another Indian prime minister [Jawaharlal Nehru] stuck to a similar view, until November 21, 1962. Broadcasting to the nation that day, that prime minister lamented that in this hour of peril, our heart goes to the people of Assam! [the northeastern region which faced a Chinese attack] "As Jawaharlal Nehru spoke to the nation, the civil administration in Tezpur had begun to burn documents and currency in the government treasury, prison doors were thrown open, and everyone made a beeline to get across the Brahmaputra [river] by whatever means. The stage was being set for surrendering all territory north of the Brahmaputra to the Chinese. "To the people of my generation, the memories of that day give goose pimples even today. The unfortunate similarities do not end there…"

"One of the Horror Stories of the 1962 Conflict with China was the Way India Made a Frenzied Effort to Arm the Soldiers with Modern Weapons [without Ammunition and Training]"

"[The] morale of the army was badly affected. As someone who has studied that conflict, including the famed Henderson Brooks Report [a classified report on India's defeat], one can say without any contradiction that 'loss of morale' was the single biggest cause of our debacle in 1962 [in the war with China]…." "One of the horror stories of the 1962 conflict with China was the way India made a frenzied effort to arm the soldiers with modern weapons. The insistence on 'indigenous' production of arms and inability of the local R&D[Research & Development]/factories starved Indian soldiers of tools of war." "So, what do we do? "Brand new rifles (the 7.62 SLR) were airdropped at Dirang Zong, of course without ammunition! As if the soldiers are robots who can instantly master new weapons and begin using [them]! "Our army's modernization is stuck in red tape of the deepest hue. Import of the critical lightweight howitzer, so important to provide artillery support to infantry in the mountains, is stuck in the courts/CBI [Central Bureau of Investigation] clearances and what not. ":hitwall:Anyone familiar with the armed forces remembers the phrase often used by superiors while giving orders, 'I do not care whether you beg, borrow or steal! I want this done!' "It is time to remind the defense minister [A. K. Antony] that the country expects him to deliver security and efficiency. His primary job is to ensure honor and safety of the country, and not his honor, that must come last, always and every time.…"

"The Likely Threat will Only Emerge in June/July 2012; What We must Accept is a Short, Sharp, Attack by the Chinese…"

"It appears that China is carefully choreographing incidents … [against] India. First, there were several instances of Chinese troops crossing the border, marking their presence. We have dismissed these as 'minor' incidents. "Then there was the verbal spat and exchange of notes over the Indian foray into oil exploration in Vietnam waters. The New Year saw ill-treatment of an Indian diplomat. Earlier, there were cases of Indian diamond merchants being imprisoned in China. All these could well be dismissed as minor incidents that involve local officials. "If similar incidents were to take place on the India-Pakistan border, they are not to be taken seriously because in Pakistan nobody is in control of the armed forces or civilian officials. "But China is NOT Pakistan – the People's Liberation Army [PLA], the media (including the Internet) are all under tight party/government control in China. "India would be making a grave error of judgment if it considers these incidents as non- serious.

There seems to be a design behind these orchestrated events, especially the forays by the PLA. "It is time India woke up. Luckily, we do have some time. At the moment the Himalayan passes are frozen and no military operations are possible. The likely threat will only emerge in June/July 2012. It must be made clear that one is not talking of an all-out war. "What we must accept is a short, sharp, attack by the Chinese, more in the nature of a slap! "To those who claim that Indo-Chinese trade is too big – one needs to remind them that as a proportion of overall Chinese trade with the world, it is of very little consequence! It is time the ministry of defense cleaned up its act [and] got cracking in building up the Indian Army's military capability to face the Chinese threat."

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That'd be a Blessed Day for the World. India has to pay back for It's crimes against humanity. May God brings it earliest. Ameen.
 
"... not sure what’s going on but its true that West won’t like to see China ruling the world after next 8-9 years from now, when West will have economically collapsed. I don’t think West would like to live with that China who will have more capable aircraft, J20, and submarines/ tanks etc than US+West, just after 7-8 years from now."


I don't think 7-8 years is realistic. The west isn't collapsing economically, its stagnating (it has a chance to recover). The J20 is still in early stages of testing, its takes time to make a new generation aircraft operational, then you have to build enough of them to give battle, all the while training new pilots, coming up with new strategies, etc.

Look, its written on the wall that economies of US+EU is going to collapse within just 2 to 10 years from now, you just have to open your eyes. West is losing their techs to China and we hope China will soon produce even better techs than West, wait for just 5-6 years more. The way Chinese companies are buying all the top brands of EU and also of US, soon these Chinese companies will start making those high tech products using cheap labour of China. If increase in export of China during 90s and during last decade came on the cost of India+ASEAN’s and South America’s export then in between 2011 to 2020, increase in export of China will come on the cost of US’s+EU’s export. And the time West will not earn even as much foreign currency that they may import oil/ gas also, they will face similar economic collapse as to SU.:agree:

But I find developing countries to gain much due to rise of China. First the same type of products, (usual products to high tech products/ machines), are being made available by Chinese companies at a very low cost than OECD countries, then at the same time Its now very easy for the companies of India, ASEAN, South Africa, South America etc to copy those techs as the time China copy a technology, they make it for so low price that West doesn’t care what next happen to those techs. :smokin:

We would welcome rise of China in place of organising any war in behalf of those losers who want to get something done before world may get changed, hopefully by 2015 itself, we may not need to wait till even 2020 also. :tup:
 
the US military cannot militarily defeat the PLA in Chinese airspace and littoral waters with currently avaliable resources. They can maybe mobilize half their assets against China within the space of 1 month. We will defeat those half assets with "from J-20 to HQ-9", then they will decide if they want the remaining half to follow.

I don’t think West really want to defeat China. They may prefer to organise a short scale war in Asia involving India-China-Japan and then cut all the trade links with China with a claim that China is a rogue nation by giving reference of war with India. This way they will get opportunity to bring other nations in the position to take a side with a single question, “you are either with West or against us.” It will first help West to cut easy access to their countries by China, to protect their high techs/ high tech companies and resources from China, and at the same time West will get an opportunity to bring those Chinese origin people living in West in the position to either support West or go back to China. This way they may first start producing all the products by themselves in place of importing from China, protecting Western culture from Chinese influence, at the same time they will be in the better place to isolate China to avoid losing any more tech to China. :pop:

And at the same time, West just need to push a war between India and China to the level of at least 1000+ deaths, regardless Indian or Chinese, which will help them to put Indian and Chinese emotions face to face for any type of big War in future also, to avoid Chinese aggression to the soil of West by putting India and Japan on the front of China with reference of those recent deaths that will occur in 2012, (as it looks like). And about India, then they will face the worse from West than China, as, they will then always need help of West against China after that war which will in fact turn India doing whatever West order them, to get help against China. this way by engaging China with India/ Japan only, West will get a comfortable position in every aspect. :agree: (that 'would be' war between India and China may not provide freedom to Tibetans but since that war, hopefully in 2012, there will always be different rallies/ protests by Tibetans in India and on Chinese border making the 'World' think how to give ‘justice’ to Tibetans also…………) :no:

have a look on the publicity by few Indian journalists loyal to those who fund them from US as below. they are already making an environment that its US who help India "against China" :hitwall:
http://articles.timesofindia.indiat..._india-and-china-henry-kissinger-indo-pak-war

and the truth is, US tried its best to attack on India in 1971 but they couldnt due to Russia/ SU
http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-...hina-attacked-during-1971-indo-pak-war-4.html

There can’t be comparison of friendship of Russia with India………….
 
Its clear that Indian side is plotting a war against China. The way publicity of Chinese attack is being done, no matter whether China will attack on India, or, it will be India+West who will plot an attack on Chinese areas, people will think its China only. Dalai Lama is treated as a Lord in India and as Buddhism was originated from India, ………. Im not sure what’s being organised right now………

But yep, month of June/ July would be good for a war on mountains. Here I remember, when India claimed that a Pakistani plane had attacked on India in early December 1971 then it was mainly because Indian war specialists knew that even if China would try to interfere during winter, it would be very hard for them. And now a war with China in summer is being plotted, again a good time, as it will be easy to fight a war on mountains in summer……………… Im not sure what’s going on but its true that West won’t like to see China ruling the world after next 8-9 years from now, when West will have economically collapsed. I don’t think West would like to live with that China who will have more capable aircraft, J20, and submarines/ tanks etc than US+West, just after 7-8 years from now. its clear that US+West want to get something done over China before world may get changed :pop:
That is correct. When india says "China will attack by 20XX" it really means "india will attack China by 20XX." Now it looks like india has decided on June / July as well.

But india has miscalculated, because in the first days of the war, China will launch hundreds of DF-11 / DF-15 ballistic missiles at New Delhi and more or less level the whole city center. Then the millions of people in the slums will rise up against the high caste rich in New Delhi and rob all their gold. Within days from the start of the war, india will break apart into many small countries.
 
That is correct. When india says "China will attack by 20XX" it really means "india will attack China by 20XX." Now it looks like india has decided on June / July as well.

But india has miscalculated, because in the first days of the war, China will launch hundreds of DF-11 / DF-15 ballistic missiles at New Delhi and more or less level the whole city center. Then the millions of people in the slums will rise up against the high caste rich in New Delhi and rob all their gold. Within days from the start of the war, india will break apart into many small countries.

Sino, listen carefully, even if Bangladesh doesn’t have nukes and 400+ aircrafts etc like Pakistan, are they controlled by India, then the answer is just “No”. as, its in India’s interests to keep Bangladesh happy for a combined progress. I mean, even if Bangladesh is almost nothing in front of Indian military and also surrounded by India, best Interests of India can be fulfilled by having good relationship with Bangladesh only. I mean, even if Pakistan reduce its aircraft, tanks, and troops number by 50%, for example, with keeping only good arms in their inventory, nothing India would do with Pakistan other than having just good relationship with Pakistan to fulfil India’s best interests :agree:

Let me tell you something else, even if Japan was a very small country than US+Britain, only nuclear weapons could make Japan surrendered in WW2 and Germany lost WW 2 because of Russian resistance. And since WW2, super power US only lost to small countries whether its Vietnam, Iraq, in Afghan also, including in many African countries where US with other UN’s forces are facing continuous defeat from local poor militants who neither have bullet proof jackets nor good arms. And even if NATO won in Libya then it was because of local groups only. So don’t underestimate any country :no:

I mean, I met one gentleman from China on PDF few days before who showed Chinese great history over Russia in 60s and 70s, (it was in fact funny for me), but do you think even Indian or Pakistani troops aren’t brave? they fight on even the highest battle field of the world, Siachen Glacier also. Even in a small country like Sri Lanka, Tamil Tigers were brave enough to die and remove whoever came in front of them and they could be defeated by local Sri Lankans only, not even by Indian military. And Indian military’s first strength is 'Gorkha Rifles' whose even 10s of soldiers may capture any big target/ mountain by just 2-3 arms on their hands like 'Tiger Hill' during Kargil war (no wonder Nepal was never ruled in history) and second Indian military has 'Rajputana Rifles' whose just 50-60 military men can win over 5000 troops. in fact fighting has been morale of Sikhs and Rajasthani Rajput who do whatever they commit on war front. if 50 men of 'Rajputana Rifles' go for a mission, even if they lose 47-48 in the middle, then also the remaining 2-3 will have definitely won the mission :tup:. And here again, do you think Bangali/ Bihari/ Tamil/ Maratha soldiers etc aren’t brave? Think again…….……:coffee:

And about missile attacks on India you said, there might be many crazy in IAF who will not only start launching missiles but also they will not hesitate to bomb directly on big cities of China by aircrafts. Before West would interfere, (very likely as they will be the main beneficiary), till then IAF will have scored at least as many numbers in China as India will lose by Chinese missiles. Once a war start, there will be an answer of 10 if 10 die, 100 if 100 die and even if 1000 die then also, no matter what but the number gotto be maintained otherwise other side will have more to say in future. therefore, longer we avoid such situation, we may teach better lessons of our coming generation, other than telling them how many numbers enemy killed and how much we could score :)
 

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