Armenians kill five Azeri soldiers

[Ir.Tab.]

All genetic researches? a Turk could be Iranian. All humans are from a same genetic I think!

 

[Targon]

Read the f.cking posts before claiming sh.t.

 

[ASQ-1918]

They are turkificated.

LOL, these are all Oghuz tribe/clans, mentioned in medieval sources.

 

[Surenas]

You moron, he worked under state of Atabegs of Azerbaijan, and also wrote a divan to Qizil Arslan, Sultan of Azerbaijan.

King Qizil Arslan Welcomes the Poet Nizami

King Qizil Arslan Welcomes the Poet Nizami · The Walters Art Museum · Works of Art

In other poems he also mentions Qizil Arslan.

In his poem "Sevgili Canan" (translated)

"Gəl söylə, cavabın nə olar, sorğu zamanı, Əhvalımı səndən soruşarsa Qızıl Arslan"

He was Iranian, born in a historically Iranian town and grew up with ancient Persian poetry. Nothing of Nizami is Turkish or Azeri. Even his most poems are written in Persian. You Turks can't even read them and you want to claim he was Azeri?

LOL, these are all Oghuz tribe/clans, mentioned in medieval sources. Genetic research? Really? You Persians then should be closest related to Arabs, who the hell bumped your kind for all these centuries?

Fcking apeschit Fars gypsy.

No, not Arabs:

European Y-DNA haplogroups frequencies by country - Eupedia

Just Iranian.

 

[ASQ-1918]

Yeah, all the countries who historically been part of the Persian empire. Great Iranian influence, isn't it?

Your "Persian empire" never existed after Arab conquest of Iran.

Seljuqs (after Arabs): Ancestors of Azerbaijani Turks
Atabegs of Azerbaijan: Azerbaijani
Ilkhanate: Mongols
Timurids: Turko-Mongols
Qara-Koyunlu: Azerbaijani
Agh-Qoyunlu: Azerbaijani
Safavids: Azerbaijani
Afshars: Azerbaijani
Qajars: Azerbaijani

 

[NeutralCitizen]

That is a natural process, in the whole f.cking word nations united, abosrbed, mixed with each other, its not mean current identity is false, Azeris are historically Turks, its not a modern invention.

And please just answer why is it concerns you ?

Neutral Ciziten

Azerbaijani and Armenian military have a massive difference right know, in the past their military was close.

And this is exactly why a Russian intervention will happen Armenia is in CSTO and Iran will help you don't remember russia's war with georgia ? most thought russia was bluffing georgia lost 20 % of it's Territory another war azeri's again will be the biggest losers.

 

[Surenas]

It's quite pathetic that Turks always steal historical figures of other people because of their own weak history and culture. The most greatest Islamic scientists were Persian (even Arab) and not Turkish. Greatest poets were Persian, not Turkish. Thats because the Seljuqs become Persians (culturally).

 

[ASQ-1918]

He was Iranian, born in a historically Iranian town and grew up with ancient Persian poetry. Nothing of Nizami is Turkish or Azeri. Even his most poems are written in Persian. You Turks can't even read them and you want to claim he was Azeri?

He was born in town a part of state of Atabegs of Azerbaijan and wrote a divan to Qizil Arslan, Sultan of Azerbaijan. Nothing to do with "Iran" or Fars gypsies.

 

[Surenas]

Your "Persian empire" never existed after Arab conquest of Iran.

Seljuqs (after Arabs)
Atabegs of Azerbaijan: Azerbaijani
Ilkhanate
Timurids
Qara-Koyunlu: Azerbaijani
Agh-Qoyunlu: Azerbaijani
Safavids: Azerbaijani
Afshars: Azerbaijani
Qajars: Azerbaijani

Yes, and they all were culturally Persian, not Turkish:

Turko-Persian tradition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Persian culture always dominated the Turks. They died for Iran, not for Turks.

 

[ASQ-1918]

Thats because the Seljuqs become Persians (culturally).

LOL, talk about being a total moron.

You admit that Seljuqs themselves adopted foreing culture, yet you talk about "linguistically Turkified" BS.

If anything, our own become linguistically "Persified".

 

[Ir.Tab.]

It's quite pathetic that Turks always steal historical figures of other people because of their own weak history and culture. The most greatest Islamic scientists were Persian (even Arab) and not Turkish. Greatest poets were Persian, not Turkish. Thats because the Seljuqs become Persians (culturally).

So tell why Persian had not have any before Turkic dynasties?

 

[Targon]

Thats simply ignorancy, you have no idea how cultural affairs works or how a national identity works.

First PERSIAN GOD KING and now you, is that amount of ignorancy really high among Iranians ?

 

[Surenas]

LOL, talk about being a total moron.

You admit that Seljuqs themselves adopted foreing culture, yet you talk about "linguistically Turkified" BS.

If anything, our own become linguistically "Persified".

No, they became culturally Persian, not linguistically.

So tell why Persian had not have any before Turkic dynasties?

Turkic migration.

Thats simply ignorancy, you have no idea how cultural affairs works or how a national identity works.

First PERSIAN GOD KING and now you, is that amount of ignorancy really high among Iranians ?

U jealous bro? We always dominated you guys culturally. In fact, Ottoman empire was mostly a Iranian civilization:

According to Bernard Lewis:

"Iran was indeed Islamized, but it was not Arabized. Persians remained Persians. And after an interval of silence, Iran reemerged as a separate, different and distinctive element within Islam, eventually adding a new element even to Islam itself. Culturally, politically, and most remarkable of all even religiously, the Iranian contribution to this new Islamic civilization is of immense importance. The work of Iranians can be seen in every field of cultural endeavor, including Arabic poetry, to which poets of Iranian origin composing their poems in Arabic made a very significant contribution. In a sense, Iranian Islam is a second advent of Islam itself, a new Islam sometimes referred to as Islam-i Ajam. It was this Persian Islam, rather than the original Arab Islam, that was brought to new areas and new peoples: to the Turks, first in Central Asia and then in the Middle East in the country which came to be called Turkey, and of course to India. The Ottoman Turks brought a form of Iranian civilization to the walls of Vienna..."

 

[ASQ-1918]

No, they became culturally Persian, not linguistically.

That's the point, there could never be a Turkic cultural or langauge assimiliation when they themseves adopted foreign culture, languageus.

The only reason why geography of Azerbaijan are Turkic now are because of huge Turkic settlements, which took place over centuries. These settlements are mentioned in historical sources.

Ibn-Battuta, who visited Azerbaijan and Tabriz in 13th century described it as a Turkic region, he spoke of Tabriz as the first Turkic city he met, 13th century! As early as that time.

It is also a well known fact that during Ilkhanate invasion Azerbaijan become even more Turkic, Turkic peoples dominated Ilkhanate army, and they settled in Azerbaijan with their families and wagons.

 

[Surenas]

Bernard Lewis:

"The work of Iranians can be seen in every field of cultural endeavor, including Arabic poetry, to which poets of Iranian origin composing their poems in Arabic made a very significant contribution. In a sense, Iranian Islam is a second advent of Islam itself, a new Islam sometimes referred to as Islam-i Ajam. It was this Persian Islam, rather than the original Arab Islam, that was brought to new areas and new peoples: to the Turks, first in Central Asia and then in the Middle East in the country which came to be called Turkey, and of course to India. The Ottoman Turks brought a form of Iranian civilization to the walls of Vienna. [...] By the time of the great Mongol invasions of the thirteenth century, Iranian Islam had become not only an important component; it had become a dominant element in Islam itself, and for several centuries the main centers of Islamic power and civilization were in countries that were, if not Iranian, at least marked by Iranian civilization. [...] The center of the Islamic world was under Turkish and Persian states, both shaped by Iranian culture. [...] The major centers of Islam in the late medieval and early modern periods, the centers of both political and cultural power, such as India, Central Asia, Iran, Turkey, were all part of this Iranian civilization. Although much of it spoke various forms of Turkish, as well as other local languages, their classical and cultural language was Persian. Arabic was of course the language of scripture and law, but Persian was the language of poetry and literature".