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[TheBraveHeart]

LiveFist - The Best of Indian Defence: MBT Arjun's new Defensive Aid System ready for tests
MBT Arjun's new Defensive Aid System ready for tests
The DRDO's Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment (CVRDE) in Avadi, has taken up the development of a Defensive Aids System for armoured fighting vehicles (AFVs) to enhance the survivability of tanks against anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) threats and to reduce the probability of detection by target acquisition systems.

Under this project, two major systems -- an Advanced Laser Warning and Countermeasure System (ALWCS) and Mobile Camouflage System (MCS) are being developed. MCS is to provide multispectral signature management of the vehicle to reduce the vehicle signature against all known sensors and smart munitions. MCS system has been developed in collaboration with Barracuda Camouflage Ltd, Gurgaon. The system has been integrated on MBT Arjun and the performance evaluation trials have been successfully completed. The methodology and the technologies can be adopted for any AFV platform. ALWCS system comprises laser warning system, IR jammer, and aerosol smoke grenade system. This is being developed jointly with Elbit Systems Ltd, Israel. The system will be integrated on MBT Arjun and performance evaluation trials are expected during summer 2009.

 

[amarnath]

The best tank is depending on who is in charging of the test. If IA is doing it, one tank will win. If DRDO is doing it, Arjun will win.

mate it dosent go by your logic, army in the presence of technical persons from DRDO do this.... So that you Can Come out with the best and reliable, now this is not a competition between t-90 and Arjun, This is just a test of how much reliable and good is Arjun when compared to T-90. As we know T-90 is surely one among the best in the world, So DRDO is confident that Arjun can now run a trial with T-90...

 

[karan.1970]

Arjun is a 60 ton heavy, while the T-90 is a 40 something medium tank. This isn't exactly fair.

not a boxing match, mate..

 

[beckham]

Now Arjun is in class of M1, Leopard, Challenger, LeClerc type of tanks and incorporates latest designing trends.I think Arjun is gonna be inducted in large numbers.

During the early trails The problems faced by Arjun were,

1.Over weight.
2.Poor fire-control system (FCS)
3.Underpowered Engine and poor engine performance in deserts.
4.High internal temperature in desert environment.
5.Lack of support infrastructure(bridge laying equipment).
6.Lack of dedicate transport system.

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But now all the problems have been sorted out.....

1.Contrary to popular misconception, its weight is more easily distributed along its base in comparision to T-90 and other tanks thus making it easier for the tank to be operated in desert conditions.

2. FCS has drastically been improved to operate at sustained internal temperature of 45'C. The first batch of tanks of the 124 ordered by the Army will have an all-digital Sagem FCS, whereas the second block will have the BEL unit, which will be used for all units thereafter.

3.A new improved 1500 hp engine.LINK

4.Tank has been incorporated with inbuilt air conditioning system thus ensuring optimal temperature for electronics and systems to work.

5.Induction of Sarvatra (MLC-70 type bridging equipment).

6.Induction of BFAT (military acronym for heavy flat cars used by railways for transports).

 

[mrwarrior006]

unless and untill army inducts it in huge numbers this project will be considered waste

 

[lockh33d]

unless and untill army inducts it in huge numbers this project will be considered waste

Hence why the army is inducting it in huge numbers, a make believe for the public into thinking it's a success when it's the opposite. Afterall, how is it so hard developing a tank to begin with? If you got the tech to invent a car and a gun, you're on the right track to designing a tank.

 

[xuxu1457]

I think its mainly to compell defense ministry to pressurize IA to buy more Arjuns ..I am not sure may be some experts can help you..

It will let many soldiers go die and loss a war to pressurize IA to buy more unreliable Arjuns

 

[Iggy]

It will let many soldiers go die and loss a war to pressurize IA to buy more unreliable Arjuns

Dude you didnt get me..the whole idea of comparitive trail was to show that Arjun is same league as T90 or better than it..if that purpose is fullfilled then whats the problem is buying Arjun?

 

[TheBraveHeart]

It will let many soldiers go die and loss a war to pressurize IA to buy more unreliable Arjuns

Would u care to explain what makes Arjun unreliable....

the way u speak I guess u r a military professional and know more than the DRDO people who designed and modified it or the army people who deploy/use it...

Also make sure u go through previous posts and come out with genuine problems which have not been already answered/taken care off...

Just because it carries a 'Made in India' tag the tank is being targeted, had it been any other western it would have been called grand success!!

Same was done with Arihant sub.. but no one seems to laugh at Royal navys Astute class or type 45 destroyers..

 

[Iggy]

Hence why the army is inducting it in huge numbers, a make believe for the public into thinking it's a success when it's the opposite. Afterall, how is it so hard developing a tank to begin with? If you got the tech to invent a car and a gun, you're on the right track to designing a tank.

Who said its the opposite??you were in the development of that Tank??The DRDO officials are fully confident of the Tank and let them make the comparitive trails..if Arjun is better than T-90 in comparison then its good for India and DRDO..other wise we will use T-90's ..

 

[lockh33d]

Dude you didnt get me..the whole idea of comparitive trail was to show that Arjun is same league as T90 or better than it..if that purpose is fullfilled then whats the problem is buying Arjun?

No, no, no! Another reason, and a major reason, that Arjuns are being mass produced is that it gives India a hands on approach of designing its own equipment, so that it has confidence in itself and can continue upgrading and tweaking it so that in the end, it does eventually best other tanks in India's inventory. However, as of now, there are no promises that this Arjun proves anywhere near its paper specs.

 

[beckham]

No, no, no! Another reason, and a major reason, that Arjuns are being mass produced is that it gives India a hands on approach of designing its own equipment, so that it has confidence in itself and can continue upgrading and tweaking it so that in the end, it does eventually best other tanks in India's inventory. However, as of now, there are no promises that this Arjun proves anywhere near its paper specs.

So, what are you trying to say ??

 

[Iggy]

No, no, no! Another reason, and a major reason, that Arjuns are being mass produced is that it gives India a hands on approach of designing its own equipment, so that it has confidence in itself and can continue upgrading and tweaking it so that in the end, it does eventually best other tanks in India's inventory. However, as of now, there are no promises that this Arjun proves anywhere near its paper specs.

Please read the links brave heart posted above..the whole comparitive trial is to proove that Arjun is a world class tank..lets wait till the trial is over then criticize it ..

 

[TheBraveHeart]

Here is additional info from wiki...

A later report published by the Government of India during the induction ceremony of the Arjun tank, confirms the success of the trial. "An independent evaluation of the tank by a reputed tank manufacturer found that the MBT Arjun is an excellent tank with very good mobility and fire power characteristics."[45]

DRDO has installed a black box-like instrument in the Arjun, following attempts to "sabotage" its engine. The instrument was installed after the Indian Army termed the September 2007 winter trials of the Arjun tank a "failure". Attempts to sabotage the trials of the Arjun tank have failed after the black box was installed, said authorities.

 

[lockh33d]

So, what are you trying to say ??

For you, learn English in greater depth.