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Are Pashtuns descendents of lost tribes of Israel?

You mean false flagger? Nice job resorting to false flag insults since you have no argument.

I'm American. Ask any of the Indians I've dealt with. I don't take sides on issues between India and Pakistan as I'm neutral and my loyalty lies to only the United States and a small amount towards Canada.

Your tribe determines your race? You don't know the first thing about anthropology or genetics. Honestly, the Pakistani Punjabis I've met in Canada and the U.S. would be embarrassed to be associated with you.

What a loser.


I'll give you an example. Jatts are known as a Punjabi tribe, but Jatts also live in Peshawar and Balouchistan. They don't speak Punjabi but rather Pashto or Balouchi. Hope you're not too thick to understand now. Cheers.
 
What a loser.

I'll give you an example. Jatts are known as a Punjabi tribe, but Jatts also live in Peshawar and Balouchistan. They don't speak Punjabi but rather Pashto or Balouchi. Hope you're not too thick to understand now. Cheers.

How mature of you. I'm such a loser for having somewhat of a clue about anthropology and genetics.

Yes, the majority of Punjabis in Indian Punjab are also Jatt. The majority of Pakistani Punjabi Jatts live in Pakistan Punjab. The ones in Peshawar and Balochistan are immigrants from one point or another.

They might speak Pashto and Balochi but they are still ethnically Punjabi Jatts.

You do realize that Jatts are still closely related to Khatris, Rajputs, Gujjars, Aroras, etc? These are just sub-ethnic groups/castes of Punjabis.
 
How mature of you. I'm such a loser for having somewhat of a clue about anthropology and genetics.

Yes, the majority of Punjabis in Indian Punjab are also Jatt. The majority of Pakistani Punjabi Jatts live in Pakistan Punjab. The ones in Peshawar and Balochistan are immigrants from one point or another.

They might speak Pashto and Balochi but they are still ethnically Punjabi Jatts.

You do realize that Jatts are still closely related to Khatris, Rajputs, Gujjars, Aroras, etc? These are just sub-ethnic groups/castes of Punjabis.

Really? What would be the need to have so many sub-ethnic groups if they are the same?
 
@RazPaK

this theory suggests about afradies , yousaf ziaes , rabanis and few other tribes not all pashtons ..
Jatt pashtons are not included.
 
So how did west punjabis like kamran akmal or injamam ul haq etc manage to look like what they look like without mixing with UP dalit?
 
Really? What would be the need to have so many sub-ethnic groups if they are the same?

People have differentiated from one other for the slightest of reasons for over a millenia. This case isn't any different. Another example is that there are numerous large Pashtun tribes and many of them still have animosity toward one another despite their shared cultural and ethnic identities.
 
@RazPaK

this theory suggests about afradies , yousaf ziaes , rabanis and few other tribes not all pashtons ..
Jatt pashtons are not included.

This theory is ridiculous and baseless. Pashtuns for the most part are native to South/Southeast Afghanistan and West/Northwest Pakistan.

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So how did west punjabis like kamran akmal or injamam ul haq etc manage to look like what they look like without mixing with UP dalit?

What some people don't understand is that phenotype does not correlate with genetic relations. A brother in the sister in the same family could have opposite skin tones and facial features.
 
This theory is ridiculous and baseless. Pashtuns for the most part are native to South/Southeast Afghanistan and West/Northwest Pakistan.

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What some people don't understand is that phenotype does not correlate with genetic relations. A brother in the sister in the same family could have opposite skin tones and facial features.


Niazis are Punjabis, but are racially Pashtun. Imran Khan would be a leading example.
 
According to Wikipedia.

Jatts:

The Jat people (Hindi: जाट Jāṭ, Punjabi: ਜੱਟ Jaṭṭ) are a community of traditionally non-elite tillers and herders in Northern India and Pakistan.[a][c] Originally pastoralists in the lower Indus river-valley of Sindh, Jats migrated north into the Punjab region in late medieval times, and subsequently into the Delhi Territory, northeastern Rajputana, and the western Gangetic Plain in the 17th and 18th centuries.[4] Of Muslim, Sikh, and Hindu faiths, they are now found mostly in the Pakistani provinces of Sindh and Punjab and the Indian states of Punjab, Haryana, Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan.

According to Encyclopædia Britannica: "In the early 21st century the Jat constituted about 20 percent of the population of Punjab, nearly 10 percent of the population of Balochistan, Rajasthan, and Delhi, and from 2 to 5 percent of the populations of Sindh, Northwest Frontier, and Uttar Pradesh. The four million Jat of Pakistan are mainly Muslim; the nearly six million Jat of India are mostly divided into two large castes of about equal strength: one Sikh, concentrated in Punjab, the other Hindu."[5]



Gujjars:
The origin of the Gurjars is uncertain.[12] Many Gurjars claim descent from Suryavanshi Kshatriyas (Sun Dynasty) and connect themselves with the Hindu deity Rama.[13] Historically, the Gurjars were Sun-worshipers and are described as devoted to the feet of the Sun-god (God Surya).Their copper-plate grants bear an emblem of the Sun and on their seals too, this symbol is depicted.[14] Also the Gurjar title of honor is Mihir which means Sun.[15][16] Ancient Sanskrit Poet Rajasekhara in his plays styled Gurjar rulers as Raghu-kula-tilaka (Ornament of the race of Raghu), Raghu-gramani (the leader of the Raghus)and so forth.[17]

In Ramayana, it is described that a war was fought among demons and gods.Gurjars fought against demons under the leadership of King Dasharatha.[18] There is also references of gurjar widows in Yoga Vasistha, whose husbands laid down their lives in the battlefield, having their heads tonsured as a mark of their bravement.[19] In Mahabharata war also Gurjars fought and later on along with lord Krishna migrated from Mathura to Dwarka, Gujarat.[20]

The Gurjar clan appeared in northern India about the time of the Huna invasions of northern India. Some scholars, such as V. A. Smith, believed that the Gurjars were foreign immigrants, possibly a branch of Hephthalites ("White Huns").[21] Mr. Devadatta Ramakrishna Bhandarkar (D. B. Bhandarkar) (1875–1950) believed that Gurjars came into India with the Hunas, and their name "Gujar" was sanskritized to "Gurjara" or "Gūrjara".[4] He also believed that several places in Central Asia, such as "Gurjistan", are named after the Gujars and that the reminiscences of Gujar migration is preserved in these names.[4] General Cunningham identified the Gurjars with Yuezhi or Tocharians.[22]

General Cunningham and A. H. Bingley consider the Gurjars as descendants of Kushan/Yueh-chi or Tocharians of Indo-Scythian stock.[23][24] In the past, Gurjars have also been hypothesized to be descended from the nomadic Khazar tribes, although the history of Khazars shows an entirely different politico-cultural ethos[25] In Gazetteer of Bombay Presidency, the British civil servant James M. Campbell identified Gujars with Khazars. Scott Cameron Levi, in his The Indian Diaspora in Central Asia and its Trade, 1550-1900, mentions Kazar (Khazar, could also refer to Kassar) and Kujar (Gujar) as two different tribes with links to Central Asia.

Some others claim that the Gurjar caste is related to the Chechens and the Georgians, and argue that Georgia was traditionally called "Gujaristan" (actually Gorjestan).[26][26][27] However, there is little evidence for such claims. The word "Georgia" derived from the Arabic and Persian word Gurj, and not Gujjar or Gurjar.[28][29]

A 2009 study conducted by Tribal Research and Cultural Foundation, under the supervision of Gujjar scholar Dr.Javaid Rahi, claimed that the word "Gujar" has a Central Asian Turkic origin, written in romanized Turkish as Göçer. Study claimed that according to the new research, the Gurjar race "remained one of the most vibrant identity of Central Asia in BC era and later ruled over many princely states in northern India for hundred of years".[30]

According to Scholars such as Baij Nath Puri, Mount Abu (ancient Arbuda Mountain) region of present day Rajasthan had been abode of the Gurjars during medieval period.[31] The association of the Gurjars with the mountain is noticed in many inscriptions and epigraphs including Tilakamanjari of Dhanpala.[32] These Gurjars migrated from Arbuda mountain region and as eatly as sixth century A.D, they set up one or more principalities in Rajasthan and Gujarat.Whole or a larger part of Rajasthan and Gujarat had been long known as Gurjaratra (country ruled or protected by the Gurjars) or Gurjarabhumi (land of the Gurjars) for centuries prior to Mughal period.[33]

The sociologist G. S. Ghurye believes that the name Gujjar is derived from the principal profession followed by the tribe: cattle-breeding (the Sanskrit word for cow is gau and the old Hindi word for sheep is gadar).,[34] though "Gujjar" has come from "Gurjar" which is a sanskrit word which according to Sanskrit Dictionary (Shakabada1181), has been explained thus: Gur+jar; 'Gur' means 'enemy' and 'jar' means 'destroyer'. The word means "Destroyer of the enemy" .[35][36] The word "Gurjar" predicts the qualities of a warrior community.[37]

Explain how Jatts and Gujjars have the same origion?

WRONG
 
Take it this way. I am culturally Punjabi and ethnically Kashmiri.
Imran khan " " punjabi and " " pashtoon.
 
Punjab was once inhabited by Dravidians, so what the hell is ethnic Punjabis?
 

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